A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Everyone, My name is Mark Taylor. As an iPhone user, I decided, last week, to purchase a MacBook Pro 13 inch notebook. I am happy to report, that today I was successful in performing a clean install of Snow Leopard after first removing Leopard. I also added an additional 2 gigs of

Re: Supported apps on Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread Dan Eickmeier
A weird thing that I'm having happen in Adium, is when going through my contacts list, before a contact's name, Voiceover will say, "Empty." This is probably something which Adium developers could probably fix. As this isn't happening inany other tables for me. On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:

Re: Braille tables for other languages

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Will, On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:42 AM, william lomas wrote: > > which braille display would you recommend, I assume still the > Syncbraille? > You assume correctly. I just wish I could afford one of those. I still have my PAC Mate 20 and will just have to make do with that. Cheers, Anne

Re: Braille tables for other languages

2009-08-29 Thread william lomas
Hope I can find a UK dealer for it, smile On 29 Aug 2009, at 08:51, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Will, > > On Aug 29, 2009, at 8:42 AM, william lomas wrote: > >> >> which braille display would you recommend, I assume still the >> Syncbraille? >> > You assume correctly. I just wish I could aff

Re: flac to alac converter, max from sbooth

2009-08-29 Thread a radix
Hello, that is good to know, i will download it later today and see if it can do flac to alac. when you do ogg to mp3 are your tags saved? Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Maxwell Ivey Jr. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 8:42 PM Sub

Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot

2009-08-29 Thread hank smith
does that mean orca will die in linux to - Original Message - From: Chris Hofstader To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 4:14 AM Subject: Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot I've heard from friends at Sun, the people who brought y

Re: Boxee?

2009-08-29 Thread hank smith
is it vo friendy?s - Original Message - From: Larry Wanger To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:30 AM Subject: Re: Boxee? Its an entertainment oriented app. Ultimately, you'd hook your computer to your TV. You can access Netflix, Hulu, and al

Does anyone know how to install RAM on the White MacBooks?

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Hi folks, Does anyone know how to install RAM on the White MacBooks? can anyone give step by step instructions please? Thanks James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To p

Snow leopard - bug, feature or something inbetween?

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
hi good people out there in Apple land. I have just installed the new Snow Leopard yesterday and am very impressed with what it has done for us blind folks, however i have a question about a thing i noticed whilst doing the first steps in SL. There's a feature that lets you hear text that's un

holding place in a webpage when cmd-tabbing

2009-08-29 Thread a radix
Hello, can you accomplish this with hotspots? I noticed yesterday i loose my place in a webpage if i comd-tab to itunes for example. Greetings, Anouk, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" g

Re: Changing voices on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, In the voice parameters list reached via vo-command-left- and right arrows, there's now a new parameter called something like "default voice". This parameter changes the default voice of VO to any voice you want. You go to the voice parameter by hitting vo-cmd-left or right arrow and c

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Yes, and not only that, Vo remembers what parameter you used last and also the order of the voices. It's just awesomely easy now to change languages on the fly. /Krister 28 aug 2009 kl. 21.01 skrev william lomas: > > if you change voices on the fly are the recent voices you used at the > top

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
The thing i was refering to is the voiceover help. The only thing i see there are the page with the links to the different subjects, not the help pages themselves, they are empty. Probably, the help pages for Voiceover in Snowleopard aren't yet translated to Swedish, but they could've link

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard With VoiceOver

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
That's great. Thank you for the clarification. It was always a pain in the butt to have to go through the VO Utility to change languages. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Review - Mac OS X 10.6

Re: Changing voices on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Yes it does tahnk you. - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Changing voices on the fly > > Hi, > In the voice parameters list reached via vo-command-left- and right > arrows, there's now a new parameter called something

Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
Mark, welcome welcome. You really have started to use the most advanced os available and quite frankly the most accessible in so many ways. I hope you find the os to serve your needs and let us know if you need help. On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:38 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > M

Re: Snow leopard - bug, feature or something inbetween?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
I haven't encountered this issue and in fact I ended up turning it off since it provides information I already knew. If you can't resolve the issue, send a note to accessibil...@apple.com, so they can flag it for further investigation. On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >

Re: Correction about Braille tables

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Ahem, excuse me, but isn't it Brltty that provides the braille tables? I could be wrong, but i think that it's so. /Krister 29 aug 2009 kl. 00.37 skrev James & Nash: > > First off, I think Anne and Archie are doing a fantastic job > compling and > distributing these tables so keep up the goo

Re: status menu?

2009-08-29 Thread Rafael Bejarano
To access the status menu, hold down the command and option keys, and press the m key twice in quick succession. Rafael Bejarano On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:37 AM, a radix wrote: > Hello, my brother tried my mac today and apparently, to the right of > the apple menu there is a status menu where yo

Re: Correction about Braille tables

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Actually I think you are correct. You can find more info at: http://live.gnome.org/Orca Remember that Orca has a capital O - Original Message - From: "Krister Ekstrom" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Correction about Braille tables > > Ahem, excuse me, but

Re: Changing voices on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread Søren Jensen
That's really nice. Thanks for the information. I requested that feature to Apple a few munths ago, so I'm really glad to hear that they have put it in Snowleopard. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 29/08/2009, at 11.37,

Re: Braille tables for other languages

2009-08-29 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi. I highly recommend the Braille displays called Vario Connect from a german company called Baum. I'll say that these Braille displays are the best displays in the world. You can read more about them at the following link: http://www.baum.de/en/products/brailledisplay/vconnect12.php Best

Re: Ecto now 99.9 percent accessible!

2009-08-29 Thread John André Netland
Hi Krister, The label feature works as follows: •Find and focus VO on a button or item you would like to set a label for, you can set labels for buttons that do have labels already if you like. You can not set labels for scroll areas and a couple of other items. •Press the shortcut for the

Is Keynote Accessible?

2009-08-29 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi there, Just looking at upgrade options at the moment. I am very tempted to buy the IWork 09 suite as part of the upgrade to SL. However, I'd only do so if Keynote were accessible - as it's a tool I would use a hell of a lot. Has anyone used it successfully? Thanks, Dónal Dr. Dónal Fi

Ecto now 99.9 percent accessible!

2009-08-29 Thread Krister Ekstrom
For those using Ecto and have installed Snow Leopard, i'm happy to say that from the smallish experiments i've done with Ecto it looks like you're finally able to use the html and the rich text editor both. Earlier on in Leopard it was only possible to use the html editor, where you did th

Security on Mac OS X 10.6

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Hi folks, There is - or there used to be - not sure if it still exists, a PDF book on the Apple website for making Mac OS X 10.5 secure. Does anyone have any indication as to when or even if a security book will be available for Mac OS X 10.6 please? Thank you James --~--~-~--~---

Amadeus Pro: Marking

2009-08-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi! Okay I'm a bit behind on my mail here. A few days ago a list member was asking questions about marking with Amadeus Pro? Well here's something which should put their mind at ease, pressing "m" during record, playback or stop mode will place a marker at the insertion point, you can use o

Even 5 more new findings in Finder

2009-08-29 Thread John André Netland
Hi, Well, 10 new features, all small and nice, was not enough for a hungry Cat, so here is even 5 more findings in Finder: •Wanna set a shortcut for converting some text in Finder, Mail, TextEdit or anywhere else directly to a spoken audio file in iTunes? You can set a shortcut for this an

Re: Security on Mac OS X 10.6

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
James that is hard to say, but I think you'll find most that info still will apply to SL as well. I have a copy of that book and just seem to get around to reading bits of it, but seems quite interesting. On Aug 29, 2009, at 6:29 AM, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi folks, > > There is - or there

Re: Security on Mac OS X 10.6

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Yes i agree, it is interesting and I think there is also a Take Control E Book on Security too which I've lost so I'll have to get it again. - Original Message - From: "Scott Howell" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: Re: Security on Mac OS X 10.6 > > James that is

Re: clean install or upgrade?

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Cool, as soon as I finish going through my email, I'm going to do the install as well as the pod cast, got the snow leopard DVD sitting right here. On Aug 28, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Cool, I'm planning to do a clean install as well. Looking forward to > that podcast Mike.

Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot

2009-08-29 Thread Chris Hofstader
> Hank asked: does that mean orca will die in linux to? cdh replies: The beauty of free software like orca versus proprietary software like JAWS (for instance) is that although Sun Microsystems has led the orca development, virtually any hacker or group thereof can take the source and cont

Re: holding place in a webpage when cmd-tabbing

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Anouk, On Aug 29, 2009, at 11:16 AM, a radix wrote: > can you accomplish this with hotspots? I noticed yesterday i loose > my place in a webpage if i comd-tab to itunes for example. Yes, hotspots is what you need for this. You can also use hotspots in text documents. Cheers, Anne > Gre

Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey Mark, that's great, I figured you might get a mac sooner or later, and I think you will be a great adition to the mac community. When you can, give itunes a try, you may like it better than in windows. The windows screen companies better be ware, the snow leopard is coming for them, lo

Braille during installation

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello everyone, It is now possible for non-English speakers to install Snow Leopard using a Braille display as uncontracted Braille is used during installation. Cheers, Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go

Re: holding place in a webpage when cmd-tabbing

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Hello Anne, Tha'ts good to hear. Do you know why you need to use hotspots? Why do you think VO does not keep its place automatically - just curious. I wonder if it could be because VO seems to treat blind users the same as sighed users. What do you think? Take care james - Original Me

[Mac-cessibility News] Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users

2009-08-29 Thread Maccessibility
Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users Recently, FaceBook.com updated their iPhone application to version 3.0. Apparently, no attention to accessibility was paid, as the app has gone from being a fantastic interface for VOiceOver users, to being e

[Mac-cessibility News] Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users

2009-08-29 Thread Maccessibility
Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users Recently, FaceBook.com updated their iPhone application to version 3.0. Apparently, no attention to accessibility was paid, as the app has gone from being a fantastic interface for VOiceOver users, to being e

getting two or more copies of each message

2009-08-29 Thread Mark Baxter
I'm getting two and sometimes three copies of each message from these two groups, and three or more from the VIphone list. Is this a list problem or some Gmail problem, and if the latter, where / how do I go about tracking it down and fixing it? Thanks much. thanks much. thanks much... Ma

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
Good luck to you. I may be purchasing one today. - Original Message - From: "Les Kriegler" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:16 AM Subject: I've Entered MacLand I've purchased our first Apple System since 1985 when we bought an Apple 2E. How's that for dating myself? It's a Ma

RE: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Les Kriegler
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RE: Braille tables for other languages

2009-08-29 Thread Blake Sinnett
I wonder if the Focus 40 Blue from Freedom Science Fiction would work. It's a Bluetooth display with 40 cells, oddly enough. Blake > From: s...@coolfortheblind.dk > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Braille tables for other languages > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:47:24 +0200

Adium

2009-08-29 Thread Alfonzo Cuellar
Hey there everyone. Has anyone installed Adium? I installed it, and it seems, VoiceOver doesn't read the the label of each list now? For example, you have AIM, MSN, and Yahoo added to your accounts. When going through the lists, for me, VO only says Collom Collapsed. Has anyone else encount

Re: Adium

2009-08-29 Thread Mark Baxter
You can expand those collapsed columns with VO backslash, they should display fine thereafter... Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You

Snow Leopard thoughts so far.

2009-08-29 Thread Jesse Bollinger
Hi, With everyone giving their thoughts on SL I figured I'd give my two cents also. The install went very well and took about 45 minutes. I wasn't sure how it would go but everything went on with out a hitch which made me very happy. I'm one of those people who no matter how easy everyone els

Re: Snow Leopard thoughts so far.

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
thanks for this :) I'm planning my upgrade. ran into a problem with my itunes library so consolidating that on my external which is taking its good old time. I plan to back up home and library folders and then plan to install. I am like you, not convinced it is as easy as everyone is saying,

Re: Adium

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
I don't have SL at the moment, but you might need to expand the column. Not sure how to do this at the present. Have you tried interacting with it? James - Original Message - From: "Alfonzo Cuellar" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Adium > > Hey there everyone. >

Re: getting two or more copies of each message

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Hi Mark, This sounds like a GMail isue. You could try adding the word recent followed by a colon before your E Mail address in the account settings. HTH James - Original Message - From: "Mark Baxter" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:08 PM Subject: getting two or more copie

Re: getting two or more copies of each message

2009-08-29 Thread Mark BBurningHawk axter
Okay, I've tried that and added 'recent:'. Hope that clears it up, and thanks for the suggestion. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Yo

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users

2009-08-29 Thread John JD Denning
did make a polite request via their link and did get a reply back that they are going to look into it. I've also contacted other app makers who's apps are either not accessible, or were and are now not. I hope it's an education process, most have come back with a positive response. Though n

Re: holding place in a webpage when cmd-tabbing

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello James, On Aug 29, 2009, at 3:21 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Do you know why you need to use hotspots? Why do you think VO does > not keep its place automatically - just curious. I wonder if it > could be because VO seems to treat blind users the same as sighed > users. What do you think?

Re: Adium

2009-08-29 Thread Fonzie
Hey there. I did expand the column, which gives me the associated contacts for that particular lists. VO does not however, read the name of that particular column. So, your AIM list is called Contacts, which is the column name. When arrowing to this column, whether expanded or not, voice o

Re: Adium

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
this never happened for me in adium even in leopard. can you not arrow up and down without interacting, that's how I hear what group I am viewing. hth On Aug 29, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Fonzie wrote: > > Hey there. > > I did expand the column, which gives me the associated contacts for > that part

choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread John J Herzog
Hi all, I'm liking the snow leopard update so far, but I'm running into an annoyance with mail. Since the update, I noticed that voiceover reads messages much more choppy than before. Specifically, it pauses too long when it encounters a new line in the middle of text. Is there an option t

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Fonzie
Hi there John, how are you doing? I have not noticed this issue in mail. Maybe it might be because I have my rate at 50 percent? Not entirely sure, but I don't seem to notice a unusual pause while VoiceOver is reading mail. I do hear a pause here and there, but to me, it feels like it did in

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread John J Herzog
Confirmed. When I slow down my voiceover rate, the reading in mail becomes noticeably smoother. The pauses in between lines are much less annoying and lengthy. Previously, I had my rate at 75 percent. I absolutely love how much faster Alex can read in snow leopard as opposed to leopard! On

Re: [Mac-cessibility News] Updated - FaceBook.com Updates iPhone App, Rendering it Inaccessible for VoiceOver Users

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Only once during my time using Apple hvae I come across a developer who seemed unwilling to look further into or to make their application work with Voice Over. Geenerally, the developers on the Mac side are very willing and obliging. - Original Message - From: "John JD Denning" To:

Re: getting two or more copies of each message

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
I hope it works for you. I've got no idea why it does this but it has happened to me before - Original Message - From: "Mark BBurningHawk axter" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: Re: getting two or more copies of each message > > Okay, I've tried that and added 're

Re: Braille tables for other languages

2009-08-29 Thread Søren Jensen
Hmm, I think it will work since Apple are using a standard Braille driver which works with most displays, but I'm not sure. Best regards: Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 29/08/2009, at 16.52, Blake Sinnett wrote: > I wonder if the Focu

RE: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread M. Taylor
Thank you, Scott. That is a most gracious offer. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A Quick Introducti

RE: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Mike, You got me smiling, buddy. Yes, Snow Leopard is on the move, to be sure. As difficult as it is for me to believe, I find that I am amazed at the level of accessibility of Snow Leopard. For the first time, in a mighty long while, I am actually eager to use a computer, once again

Re: getting two or more copies of each message

2009-08-29 Thread Mark BBurningHawk axter
It did, partially. However, I'm still getting two copies of the VIphone list messages, but I suspect this is due to the list having me joined twice. Thanks though! Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurnin

FW: [gui-talk] Fwd: Getting Started with Snow Leopard documentation

2009-08-29 Thread Les Kriegler
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What is a data detector, and how is it used?

2009-08-29 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi all, in email messages now, especially when there is an email address in the body of the message, , after VO reads the email address, it'll say data detector present. These datadetectors are something that were in Mail in Leopard, as I heard about them on one of the mainstream MAc

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Have you contacted accessibil...@apple.com with this issue? If there is a problem when Alex is speaking at 75% or higher perhaps they can fix it. - Original Message - From: "John J Herzog" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:13 PM Subject: Re: choppy reading in mail > > Confirmed.

RE: using Shazam on the Iphone

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks for the tip, Cara. Have to ask, how'd you ever figure that one out? :) Donna From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:20 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: using Shazam on the

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello James and everyone, I suspect that the "choppy speech" problem in Mail is the result of curing the problem of not signalling the break in a list when items are only separated by a new line character. It's probably less annoying in Mail to have the breaks than it is when reading a text

RE: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
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Re: A Quick Introduction from Mark with Snow Leopard

2009-08-29 Thread Jessi and Goldina
hey Mark, good to see you out here! I've seen you on the iPhone list though I rarely post there cuz I don't have an iPhone yet. I enjoy your posts though, you have a fun way of saying things. I've been a mac user for a little over a year though and am so glad you made the jump! the mac re

window chooser not working with Ichat

2009-08-29 Thread John J Herzog
Hi listers, I am having a problem, and was wondering if anybody else can confirm this. Whenever I get a new message from a buddy, I can no longer use the window chooser menu to get to it. Hitting VO f2 twice after hearing the pop up sound results in voiceover saying, zero items in window c

Turning off the preview pane in Mail

2009-08-29 Thread Robert Carter
Hi, I am having trouble turning off the preview pane in mail. Can somebody kindly remind me exactly how to do it? Thanks, Robert Carter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hey, that's cool Rich, hope you get one. I'm typing this message in the new snow leopard, the improvements in voiceover are great, and no sighted help needed to install. and it's incredible when cruising the web On Aug 29, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Rich Ring wrote: > > Good luck to you. I may be p

removing preview pain in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi all. Has anyone been successful in removing the preview pane when using mail in Snow Leopard? I've tried double clicking the horizontal and vertical splitters but that doesn't seem to work. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subs

Re: What is a data detector, and how is it used?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
If you wanted to add someone to your address book, you can use these data detectors or you could use them for bringing up a web page or even sending an e-mail to that address you found as a data detector. That is a really simplified explanation, but hope it helps. Here is a bit from the Getti

RE: Turning off the preview pane in Mail

2009-08-29 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Robert, I had a really hard time when I tried to do this. You have to double-click the second horizontal splitter. Sounds ssimple enough, but it also seems like the planets have to be in alignment, and it probably wouldn't hurt to dance around in a circle and chant magic words while you're a

embedded voice commands

2009-08-29 Thread louie
Hi all, Anyone know the embedded command to change the voice? I have found the below commands. [[volm +0.1]] will change the volume. [[rate 400]] will change the rate. Thanks for any help. louie louiem...@wavecable.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

Re: What is a data detector, and how is it used?

2009-08-29 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Ok, thanks for that explanation Scott, that helped a lot. On Aug 29, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > If you wanted to add someone to your address book, you can use these > data detectors or you could use them for bringing up a web page or > even sending an e-mail to that address you fo

Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot

2009-08-29 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
Chris, What are the requirements for emacs speak? When last I used emacs regularly on a Ultra-2, I had no need for a screen reader, just setting my fonts at 28 pt and reverse video (thanks Kyle Jones for the help). I know there is a copy of emacs in /usr/bin and I think it might even be

changing group/dom navigation on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
Josh mentions in his article a keyboard command to switch between dom and group mode. I was wondering if anyone knows what it is or how I can assign that command to either my numpad comder or keyboard cmder :) any help would be great :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Y

Re: changing group/dom navigation on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread John André Netland
Hi Marie, As you mentioned, you can assign shortcut to this command from the NPC or KBC (NumPad Commander or Keyboard Commander) by your choice. In both cases, you will select the Commander to use in VO Utility, interact with the table for that commander, find a shortcut you would like to

Re: Turning off the preview pane in Mail

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Robert, To turn off the Preview pane in Mail, navigate to the horizontal splitter which is below the messages and then make sure that the mouse is routed to it by pressing VO-Command-F5. Double click with the mouse button or the actual mouse. Sometimes double clicking with VO-Shift-

Re: embedded voice commands

2009-08-29 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Louis, To change the voice on the fly, press VO-Command-left or right arrow until you reach "Default Voice", then keep holding down VO-Command and use the up and down arrows to change the voice. Cheers, Anne On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:55 PM, louie wrote: > > Hi all, > Anyone know the em

Re: changing group/dom navigation on the fly

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
thanks so much John, must have skipped over that one. :) this does really rock! :) On Aug 29, 2009, at 10:39 PM, John André Netland wrote: > > Hi Marie, > > As you mentioned, you can assign shortcut to this command from the NPC > or KBC (NumPad Commander or Keyboard Commander) by your choice. In

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Brett Campbell
Yes, I'm glad you mentioned this. The mail is read choppy. Alex reads smooth as ever in Safari. I currently only have my rate at 50, so I don't think rate is causing it. I'm also having no luck getting sub menus to work, Such as when I try to move a message to another box. Brett On Au

Snow Leopard and dropbox any ideas?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Rutkowski
Hi all. Just wondering if anyone on the list may have an idea on how to resolve this issue please? Since upgrading to Snow Leopard and now finding out dropbox menus can't be accessed by using the window chooser vo f2 twice and arrow down to untitled and hit enter and do a vo shift space to

3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Marie Howarth
well, this is purely my opinion but 3 features that horribly remind me of windows are as follows. 1. automatic reading of a webpage. 2. voice over hints. I know what to do in a text area, especially when it already says edit text. 3. insertion point. this has been discussed, it's counter intui

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
Funny, I'm having no issues with submenus in Mail or any other app I have used so far. There seems to be some slightly roughness to the reading, but not sure what the cause is and I noticed it only as a slight thing, but of course level of annoyance is subjective for sure. On Aug 29, 2009,

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
Well good for you, I'm glad you did not need these features and you learned the way we all started out. However, of course the only plus side is that for those who want to make the transition and really find what we "grew up with" difficult, will at least have a way to ease their transiti

Re: choppy reading in mail

2009-08-29 Thread Brett Campbell
Hi Scott, Thanks for letting me know that you aren't having any problems with sub menus. This prompted me to just turn VoiceOver off and on and the menus work now. I didn't want you to lose sleep. :) Brett On Aug 29, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > Funny, I'm having no issues

Re: why is openoffice accessible and neoofficeenot

2009-08-29 Thread JC Helary
Le 30 août 2009 à 05:53, Jonathan C. Cohn a écrit : > Chris, > > What are the requirements for emacs speak? I could not find requirement information on the emacspeak page so I suppose the package works on any Unix like machine with a fairly recent emacs installed. I say Unix because it seem

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread James & Nash
Having not had the chance to test out SL yet I'm not going to comment on the features specifically. But I would like to say, that no, Windows is not Mac and Mac is not 'Windows, but it is excellent that a choice exists because it may ease the transition for Windows users who are coming to the M

Just got a Mac Mini

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
Hello all you helpful wonderful veteran Mac users! Just got back from the Apple store with a Mac Mini. I've been told by many that if I fire it up I will hear a spoken message telling me how to get Voiceover running. Is this true? Second, we have SL, and we will need to install it. My thought

Re: embedded voice commands

2009-08-29 Thread louie
Ann I want to change the voice from within a java program. thanks. On Aug 29, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > > Hello Louis, > > To change the voice on the fly, press VO-Command-left or right arrow > until you reach "Default Voice", then keep holding down VO-Command and > use the up and

Re: Just got a Mac Mini

2009-08-29 Thread Chantel Cuddemi
Hi, Rich, When you startthe mac up for the first time, you will hear a spoken message on how to turn vo on. Hit command f five to turn voicover on. As far as snow lepard goes, just put the CD in, and just let it spin. you will notice that the install will take less time than the lepard install

Re: Just got a Mac Mini

2009-08-29 Thread JC Helary
Le 30 août 2009 à 07:57, Rich Ring a écrit : > Second, we have SL, and we will need to install it. My thought was > that since this is a brand new machine, I might as well do a clean > upgrade. Should I just put the SL DVD in the drive press C and > eventually press command f5 and do the

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Chesworth
Also just my oppinion, but I disagree about points 1 and 2. Can't say I ever have used feature numero uno in any OS as there are so few webpages I'd actually want to read 100% of their content, but someone somewhere will find it useful. You could argue that the reading webpages automatically is

Re: I've Entered MacLand

2009-08-29 Thread Rich Ring
And to you Mike, your podcasts have helped me make this decision. My new Mac Mini is waiting for me to fire it up. Hope I don't screw something up! (smile) - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: Re: I've Entered MacLand Hey,

Open Office, inserting Current Date into a document

2009-08-29 Thread Dane Trethowan
Hi! To be honest I'm not expecting a quick answer to this question from the list as I'm probably the only one using Open Office with a Mac but I thought I'd give it a go anyway . Does anyone know how you go about inserting the current date into a document? This function can be called easi

Games on the iPhone

2009-08-29 Thread Christian
Hi all, OK, so I decided to try a few games on my iPhone. I downloaded the free game Beepbeep and was able to start the game, but how do I select what tones to press with VoiceOver? Also, I tried simon sings but no luck wiht that as well. Any tips? Many thanks, Christian --~--~-~--~---

Re: 3 features that hmm?

2009-08-29 Thread Scott Howell
Come on this is crazy. You just can't imagine the number of people who bitched and complained about this whole editing issue and I believe Apple was taken to task by one of the rags put out by the NFB or some organization about the editing issue. APparently enough people complained that A

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