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2020-06-28 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
isionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings > Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:03 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > Yes, I like my Ma

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2020-06-28 Thread Brad Snyder
t.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>> >>>&g

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2020-06-28 Thread Greg Wocher
at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty >>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he'

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2020-06-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> Sent: Saturd

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2020-06-28 Thread Anders Holmberg
lly I can’t see what the average person would need the pro for now > days. > > From: 'andrew' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:38 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: whitch Macbook pro > > Hi all. > > Thinking of u

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Don't ask as it's kind of scary -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:48 AM To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Actually Donna, your posts generate

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Petrus, You also find the butterfly keyboard ok as well? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 10:03 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Yes, I like my MacBook Pro with the Touch Bar. Although the

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
2020 5:02 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro As long as its not the butterfly one which I have not heard good things about. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true?

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Brad, The new 2020 have 2 but both on left edge where ac power was. Headphone jack is on the right hand edge at back corner. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Brad Snyder Sent: Sunday, 28 June 2020 3:57 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
3:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Hi Andy, I don't know how many USBs the new MacBook Airs have, but I can tell you that when I replace this MacBook Pro, it will probably be with an Air. I'm very meh about the Pro, but I absolutely loved my Air.

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
2020 2:24 AM To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro How true, Ann. So that means yet one more cable to hook to my nice beautiful sleek MBP so that with a power cord, keyboard, iPhone sync cable, and DVD drive, it starts to look like my old Windows PC with

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
2:08 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I would add that I also use an MBP with a touch bar. I’ve gotten used to it, but I’m not really a fan. I love how it’s contextualized, but I almost always have to tap it three or four times to get it to activate. Overall, I

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Sorry yes Andrew Anne is correct, There is no optical drive in any of the mac computers now. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:45 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
10:59 PM To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Good to hear about that butterfly keyboard. Not happy with it. Maybe a good reason to upgrade to the latest MBP... Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following info

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2020-06-28 Thread Simon A Fogarty
perfect. But that’s politics And cheers again from the NZ nation. From: 'andrew' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 9:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Hi Simon. I like the idea of having a CD/DVD reader, though I hardly ever use

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
ead it. Think of it as dyslexia of >>>>> writing. So I use dictation software. Like I said the Touch Bar is a bit >>>>> weird but I’m slowly learning to live with it. Very best wall. >>>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>>>>> On

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2020-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
he's very happy with it, -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar though as I w

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2020-06-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
does not mean you cannot still find apple machines that come with them however, if the hardware is important to your specific needs. Kare On Sat, 27 Jun 2020, Anne Robertson wrote: Andy, as far as I know, no Apple computers come with a built-in DVD drive anymore. Cheers, Anne On 27 J

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2020-06-27 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
ith the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > >

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
cBook Pro is because of my additional disability I >>>>> have a written expression disorder that if I typed this email you >>>>> probably would not be able to read it. Think of it as dyslexia of >>>>> writing. So I use dictation software. Like I said th

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
as dyslexia of writing. So I use >>>> dictation software. Like I said the Touch Bar is a bit weird but I’m >>>> slowly learning to live with it. Very best wall. >>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty >>

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
t; On Jun 26, 2020, at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty >>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi ET, >>>>> >>>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>

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2020-06-27 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Ahoy Dave, Just velcro the hub out of sight and rout your cables to it discretely. Good reason for a hub is to save your jack on your lap top. Just like a "patch bay"! LOL Usually looks like a porky pine after all the wires but is mounted away from your movements! A? Chuck "God does not play di

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
gt;>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>> >>>> >>>>

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
es. >> >> Andy. >> ----- Original Message - From: "Julie Rattray" > <mailto:julierattra...@gmail.com>> >> To: "'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries" > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Saturday, Jun

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2020-06-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
ginal Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I've been looking at this too. I&#x

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
;>>> >>>> Hi ET, >>>> >>>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>&

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2020-06-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
;s very happy with it, -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I've

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >

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2020-06-27 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
ionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro  I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Ba

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
m: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:30 PM >> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >> >> Yeah, but how

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
as > a reasonable keyboard with no swip bar and I can use a full size apple > keyboard. So I'm not sure at all about the Air. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > - Original Message - From: "Julie Rattray" > To: "'Tim Kilburn' via Mac

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
e - >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:30 PM >> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook

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2020-06-27 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
7, 2020 3:30 PM Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Yeah, but how often do you really need a DVD drive? I bought a portable one that I keep in a desk drawer, and only connect it when I need it. About the only thing I ever use it for is importing CDs into my iTunes library, which I rarely need

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
Chuck, Yes I have one of those hubs. Sure, there’s now only a single cable connected, but a bunch connected to the hub. Same spaghetti. And don’t let me get started on these new USB C jacks. It only means that now I have to have a collection of USB A/C adapters laying around. And what’s wrong wi

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
ooglegroups.com> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro don’t be fooled by the specs. The processor in the MacBook Pro smokes the processor in the Air. If all you want to do is email and browse the web, then go for the Air. If you want to do real work, there is no substitute for the MacBook Pro

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2020-06-27 Thread Brad Snyder
r keys? Andy. > - Original Message - > From: Brad Snyder <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > don’t be fooled by the spe

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2020-06-27 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Dave, What about a hub. 1 cable to the hub then let that be the cable cluster! BTW dvd/cd burners are still used every day for some recording clients that like them. So I always have to have a cd burner hooked up for clients needs. Chuck "God does not play dice with the universe" "Albert Einste

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Yeah, but how often do you really need a DVD drive? I bought a portable one that I keep in a desk drawer, and only connect it when I need it. About the only thing I ever use it for is importing CDs into my iTunes library, which I rarely need to do now, as most of my music has already been import

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
t; To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:45 AM > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > I have the 15-inch MBP with the touchbar. It’s quite easy to master, after > listening to the Applevis presentation

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
How true, Ann. So that means yet one more cable to hook to my nice beautiful sleek MBP so that with a power cord, keyboard, iPhone sync cable, and DVD drive, it starts to look like my old Windows PC with spaghetti all around it. Dave Carlson Oregonian, Farfar, Engineer, Musician, Pioneer, and Wo

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
;>> dictation software. Like I said the Touch Bar is a bit weird but I’m >>>> slowly learning to live with it. Very best wall. >>>> >>>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On J

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> >>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 20:37, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi ET, > >>> > >>> I'm not a fan of the touch bar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac > >>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happ

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
t Petrus Sterling is using a mac >>> book pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 A

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
ut is the Air not just a tablet with close together > keys? > > Andy. > - Original Message - > From: Brad Snyder > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > don’t be fooled by the specs

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
at all about the Air. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > - Original Message - From: "Julie Rattray" > To: "'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries" > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 5:05 AM > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > >>

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
ith it, >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro >> >> I've been looking

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
I can’t see what the average person would need the pro for now >> days. >> *From:*'andrew' via MacVisionaries >> *Sent:* Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:38 AM >> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* whitch Macbook pro >> Hi all. >> Thinkin

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2020-06-27 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
does it really not matter? Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: Dave Carlson To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:45 AM Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I have the 15-inch MBP with the touchbar. It’s quite easy

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2020-06-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Andy, as far as I know, no Apple computers come with a built-in DVD drive anymore. Cheers, Anne > On 27 Jun 2020, at 11:47, 'andrew' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Simon. > > I like the idea of having a CD/DVD reader, though I hardly ever use that. -- The following information is i

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
Good to hear about that butterfly keyboard. Not happy with it. Maybe a good reason to upgrade to the latest MBP... Dave Carlson Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questio

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2020-06-27 Thread Dave Carlson
I have the 15-inch MBP with the touchbar. It’s quite easy to master, after listening to the Applevis presentation by David Woodbridge. I have marked the f5 and f8 and SIRI positions across the top of the bar to help orient to the more important locations. And the Touch ID works very well. Dave

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2020-06-27 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
o > the virus. > - Original Message - > From: Simon A Fogarty > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 4:41 AM > Subject: RE: whitch Macbook pro > > > Andy, > > > > Why do you need a pro? >

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2020-06-27 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
essage - From: Simon A Fogarty To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 4:41 AM Subject: RE: whitch Macbook pro Andy, Why do you need a pro? I have been playing around with the 2020 mac book air recently and I really liked it. It

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2020-06-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 9:31 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Hi Brad. I've never touched one, but is the Air not just a tablet with close together keys? Andy. - Original Message - From: Brad Snyder<mailto:wb

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2020-06-27 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
I can use a full size apple keyboard. So I'm not sure at all about the Air. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Julie Rattray" To: "'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries" Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 5:05 AM Subject: Re: whitch Macbo

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2020-06-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Brad Snyder Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 6:43 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro don’t be fooled by the specs. The processor in the MacBook Pro smokes the processor in the Air. If all you want to do is email and browse the web, then go for the Air. If you want

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2020-06-27 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
Hi Brad. I've never touched one, but is the Air not just a tablet with close together keys? Andy. - Original Message - From: Brad Snyder To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 7:42 AM Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro don’t be fooled b

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2020-06-27 Thread Simon A Fogarty
as it takes away some of the security features. -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 4:55 PM To: MacVisionaries Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro Hmm, the Air is $300 cheaper than the Pro with no Touch Bar, And you say no butterfly

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2020-06-26 Thread Brad Snyder
Sterling is using a mac book > pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subje

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2020-06-26 Thread maurice mines
6 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro > > I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar though > as I will likely get used to it. The 13" model with 4 USB ports starts at > $1799. > > From E.T

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2020-06-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
board replacement to the butterfly keyboard. Otherwise a great little device. Personally I can’t see what the average person would need the pro for now days. *From:*'andrew' via MacVisionaries *Sent:* Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:38 AM *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com *Subject:* whi

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2020-06-26 Thread Julie Rattray
ar myself but Petrus Sterling is using a mac book > pro with the touch bar and I believe he's very happy with it, > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 11:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegro

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2020-06-26 Thread Simon A Fogarty
. Personally I can’t see what the average person would need the pro for now days. From: 'andrew' via MacVisionaries Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2020 10:38 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: whitch Macbook pro Hi all. Thinking of upgrading my Macbook Pro 2013 to a new machine.

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2020-06-26 Thread Simon A Fogarty
oups.com Subject: Re: whitch Macbook pro I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar though as I will likely get used to it. The 13" model with 4 USB ports starts at $1799. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that w

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2020-06-26 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I've been looking at this too. I'm not concerned about the Touch Bar though as I will likely get used to it. The 13" model with 4 USB ports starts at $1799. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 6/26

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2020-06-26 Thread 'andrew' via MacVisionaries
Hi all. Thinking of upgrading my Macbook Pro 2013 to a new machine. I need a nice full keyboard with sizable buttons and as many USB's as I can get. I hate the sound of the Tuch Bar that took over from the F keys. I'll probably also get an external full size keyboard. Any ideas on which model