gt;>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>> My Twitter
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>> There is a easy s
>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>> Facebook Profile
>>> My Twitter
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>> There is a easy solution to this situ
t;>>>
>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>> There is a easy solution to this situation.
>>>> Just learn english.
>>>> Talk soon
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:28 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>> Just learn english.
>>> Talk soon
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:28 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're right!!!
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Krister Ekstr
2009, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Listers,
>>> There is a easy solution to this situation.
>>> Just learn english.
>>> Talk soon
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:28 AM, James & Nash
t;>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Krister Ekstrom"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: question for non-native english speakers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>&g
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>> To:
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: question for non-native english speakers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> Ok, i'll probably get lynched by americans and other anglosaxen
>> people on
>> this list
Thanks for the info Anne,
I know that the French Grade 2 is called Abrégé but I forgot how to spell it
lol.
TC
James
- Original Message -
From: Anne Robertson
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: question for non
Hello James,
On Nov 16, 2009, at 2:47 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>
> As you work in France, have you learned French Grade 2?
I learned Abrégé as French contracted Braille is known, when I was at
university. I can read it easily, but I make lots of mistakes when writing it.
> Does your site have
>
james
- Original Message -
From: "Anne Robertson"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: question for non-native english speakers
Hello everyone,
You have to pay for voices in other languages, but multi-lingual Braille is
free and can be downl
Hello everyone,
You have to pay for voices in other languages, but multi-lingual Braille is
free and can be downloaded from:
www.cecimac.org
Dutch is still missing, but most other major European languages are there, as
well as Arabic and Hebrew. It's only uncontracted Braille as yet since
cont
I agree, Nic. It seems like if the program is localized, the speech/
voice should be as well.
Donna
On Nov 16, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have to agree wholeheartedly. Not to start a debate here, but many
> languages are usually forgotten. What strikes me as ridic
Well, this American agrees with you and i think it's really pretty
unconscionable, especially when it involves something as important as
access to technology, which you pretty much need to do anything in
today's world.
Donna
On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> Ok
Hi Listers,
There is a easy solution to this situation.
Just learn english.
Talk soon
On Nov 16, 2009, at 7:28 AM, James & Nash wrote:
>
> You're right!!!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Krister Ekstrom"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:
You're right!!!
- Original Message -
From: "Krister Ekstrom"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: question for non-native english speakers
Hi,
Ok, i'll probably get lynched by americans and other anglosaxen people on
this list for saying
Hi,
I have to agree wholeheartedly. Not to start a debate here, but many languages
are usually forgotten. What strikes me as ridiculous in this instance, however,
is the language is actually supported for the operating system, but no voices
exist to support the claim. Which, in my opinion, is
Hi,
You know, in Denmark, it is localized but I believe VoiceOver is not. It's
extremely interesting to hear Alex speak Danish at the install prompt. I still
wish they'd at least include some basic voices for different languages, as has
been done with the iPhone. I don't quite understand why t
Hi,
Ok, i'll probably get lynched by americans and other anglosaxen people on this
list for saying this, but sometimes, the anglosaxen folks tend to forget that
there's a world outside their language sphere. When a program or speech synth
is "multi lingual" it often mean various dialects of en
Hi Donna,
Here in Sweden, Voiceover is localized, however there are no voices for Swedish
bundled with the Mac, we have to buy the Infovox Ivox voices, but once you've
done it, it's very easy to change languages on the fly, which is very good and
in my oppinion one of the best features that ca
PM
Subject: Re: question for non-native english speakers
Hi,
In the case of the iPhone voices, they're only licensed for use on
that platform. I'm not sure of the details, but if the arrangement
were tied to a price based on every iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch 3GS sold,
that could be quit
Sorry, correction to my earlier post about ClaroRead assistive
technology software for the Mac with 15-day free trial at:
http://www.clarosoftware.com/faq_info.php?cPath=333&tab=x
Esther wrote:
>
> There's a ClaroScan program that works with OmniPage Pro.
The scanner interface is in the Clar
Hi,
In the case of the iPhone voices, they're only licensed for use on
that platform. I'm not sure of the details, but if the arrangement
were tied to a price based on every iPhone 3GS or iPod Touch 3GS sold,
that could be quite attractive to the party licensing the voices.
It's actuall
Hello James,
The uncontracted Braille at installation is American Braille, of course. There
can only be one kind of Braille at that stage, just as there can be only one
voice. However, it would b good if we could have a basic voice in all the
languages into which VoiceOver is localised. I've a
Hi Anne,
> The only concession to non-English speakers I got from Apple was the change
> from contracted to uncontracted Braille during installation.
Is This still in American Braille though? I too have been asking Apple to
consider their non-English client base. Perhaps it is time for me to
Wow, that's just amazing. Over the years I've worked with/known a
number of blind individuals in other countries who simply did not have
access to the financial resources needed to purchase a PC and a screen-
reader, and who, consequently, just went without. The Mac could be
such a great
Makes sense.
Donna
On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:45 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>
> I am not sure, but I'd guess that they were licensed to work on a
> mobile cellular platform.
>
> TC
>
> James
> On 15 Nov 2009, at 19:43, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
>>
>> Ah, licensing issues, I should have thought of that. St
Hello Donna,
On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Ah, licensing issues, I should have thought of that. Still, if that's
> the case, how is it that they can be included on the iphone?
According to Apple, they are licensed specifically for the iPhone and iPod
Shuffle. I've bee
I am not sure, but I'd guess that they were licensed to work on a mobile
cellular platform.
TC
James
On 15 Nov 2009, at 19:43, Donna Goodin wrote:
>
> Ah, licensing issues, I should have thought of that. Still, if that's
> the case, how is it that they can be included on the iphone?
>
>
Ah, licensing issues, I should have thought of that. Still, if that's
the case, how is it that they can be included on the iphone?
Well, thanks for the info. I do hope this changes soon, it seems very
unfair.
Cheers,
Donna
On Nov 15, 2009, at 2:22 PM, James & Nash wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
>
>
Hi Donna,
I too find it surprising - especially as Apple is based in California where I
believe Spanish and some of the Chinese and Japanese languages are spoken
widely. I did point this out to Apple and asked them if they would consider
including the IPhone voices in a future release, even t
Hi Donna,
Perhaps Anne and others can answer your question more appropriately, as i am
not yet living in France. However, as I understand it, VO is only available in
English by default, and at the moment, Apple do not include the IPhone
languages with VO although I have asked them to for futu
Hi Jonathan,
thanks for responding. That's really too bad, and honestly, I'm a bit
surprised. And i agree, it would seem like if the iphone could
include localized languages and voices, so could the Mac. I hope that
soon VO does include either other languages or a localized version, so
hello,
I use MacOS in Spanish. I had to buy Spanish voice for voiceOver from Infovox.
I hoped Apple published Snow Leopard with the same voices in iPhone.
iPhone has voices for 21 languages.
Regards
Jonathan Chacón
El 15/11/2009, a las 19:47, Donna Goodin escribió:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
Hi all,
I have a question for those of you in countries where English is not
spoken. When you all purchase a Mac, what language do you get for VO,
i.e. do localized versions of VO come with voices other than English
as the default? Do users there who don't speak English have to
purchase
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