Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-29 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Ah, but, when you use the mouse keys, do you need to press the FN key on the bluetooth keyboard or notebook keyboard? Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Oct

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yeah, I tried it with the trackpad and with mouse keys. I succeeded with mouse keys, simply because I don’t always track straight on the trackpad. With mouse keys, you just hold the numpad 2 key down, and it will track straight down off the screen, once you press the numpad 0 key to lock the mou

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Cheryl Homiak
The problem with this approach is that you have to be excruciatingly careful. It is correct but I was never able to accomplish it that way. But I know some are able to do it and that's great! It is not the only way that works though. On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Solved

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Solved issue. Tim was right about his latest suggestion. 1. From the prefs window, choose classic layout in view tab. 2. Now, making sure not to interact with the message table, VO+right just to the right of it. IF a horizontal spliter is right next to the message table, the preview pain is

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
Also, when performing these mouse functions, I find that full-screen mode gives you much better control. Hth, Teresa "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."--Groucho Marx On Oct 28, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Just go up

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Just go up in value a little. This is just to make sure that the splitter is moving properly and that the mouse will respond. When using VO to move the splitter, it often won’t let you go all the way to 100% anyway. After you’ve moved it 5 or 10%, then use VO-cmd-f5 to bring mouse focus

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Ah, okay. AS for the tool bar, I discovered that I had curser tracking off and I fixed that. Now, with respect to the value in the horizontal spliter, should I go down or up in value? I find that if I go up in value, and I hit about 87 percent, mail suddenly goes busy and I wind up being able

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Ray, I believe that Alex received the initial instructions from an Apple Support person. I more or less used some of those instructions along with my own experience to come up with my instructions. I, like Alex, had everything the way it should be after my update to Mavericks and then deci

Re: mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
In reply to myself, I have another observation, a tool bar now appears just to the right of the message table. Seems to be that the more I mess with this thing, the worse it gets. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Ba

mail views all messed up now

2013-10-28 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Okay, After fooling with the instructions to get rid of the preview pain, it’s still there. Problem seems to be that I just cannot get rid of the damn horizontal splitter and make it go to the botton of the mail window. Now, when I open mail, (in standard view) I land on my mail box table and