Microsoft UIA also has properties associated with a specific control.
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> On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:08 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
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> Hi Devin,
>
> This is exactly how the program is structured. In trees. Theres nothing new
> there. Nothing changes to the way you handle thin
Hi!
Is it cobra screenreader you mean?
That one excists and is in my opinion the absolute best screenreader from a
braille users perspective.
/A
> 7 jan 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Sean Murphy :
>
> If people want to do an open source solution of what have been outlined here,
> go for it. I would be v
Hi!
CLi based environment can be used if you’r willing to type a lot.
If you’r lazy then go for the gui.
I use both as they compliment each other.
/Ae
> 7 jan 2015 kl. 00:06 skrev DD :
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> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
>
> "The CLI on the Mac does provide text base applications if y
Hi Devin,
This is exactly how the program is structured. In trees. Theres nothing new
there. Nothing changes to the way you handle things. It’s just graphicsless.
the actions and moving are the same.
And I don’t think it’s about because it didn’t work then, it won’t now.
Different techniques a
Well that's the main problem, that there is rarely any programming group
interested in that.
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> On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
> If people want to do an open source solution of what have been outlined here,
> go for it. I would be very interested to see i
Yeah, having to type all those path names and such? I'd not call that easy,
unless the terminal and command line on windows are not good examples of a CLI.
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> On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:06 PM, DD wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Sean Murphy wrote:
>
>
> "The CLI on the Mac does p
If people want to do an open source solution of what have been outlined here,
go for it. I would be very interested to see if anyone would take it up. A lot
of work. There was a screen reader on the windows which used a tree view like
structure to navigate the GUI. It was a German product from m
On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Sean Murphy wrote:
"The CLI on the Mac does provide text base applications if you like to
learn. people like things to be easy, thus why we have GUI now." Me:
I have used both and the cli is far more "easy" by any measure one might
choose.
Screen reader access is far mo
Hi Shawn,
Thanks for your input.
Sometimes it's good to see where this corporate behaviour is going. Are you
hitting the spot completely? Am I right? Who cares? Essentially there's an
interest, and there is creating the environment to facilitate the idea.
Yuma Antoine Decaux
"Light has no va
Hi all,
I have to go against the grain. If you think Apple or any other vendor is going
to spend time on building a non-graphical environment as outlined on this
thread. It will not occur due to no market. We are .5% of the market thus
there is no business requirement for them and they will n
Where and when is the nFB? I heard a few conflicting ideas about the
organisation. But I would take the momentum to engage the voice.
Cheers,
Yuma Antoine Decaux
"Light has no value without darkness"
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> On 2/01/2015,
:
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: the graphicsless paradigm
Hi,
What I'm trying to induce here is the sense that no matter the graphic
outline, everything starts graphicsless and elements are pulled out of the
lower layers, such as kernel, login daemons etc. The graphics lay
Maybe just beam the voice over computations to the GPU with all graphics down.
That's a great idea. The UIKit will still be loaded but no graphics. it would
be like having a multitasking, mouse or trackpad enabled unix front.
One of the issues I see with graphicsless is for safari. But then that
What about if we start asking Apple to make some products that is
specificly for voiceover, and don't worry about GPU at all hey? Won't
it be great? Maybe, someone might want to bring this up on this year
NFB convention?
On 02/01/2015, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What I'm trying to induc
Hi,
What I'm trying to induce here is the sense that no matter the graphic outline,
everything starts graphicsless and elements are pulled out of the lower layers,
such as kernel, login daemons etc. The graphics layer itself cannot be omitted
since it is also the core of a lot of coco framework
BobH. wrote:
> I think a lot of us have said for a good while, that modern 'puters are 99%
> eye candy or effects; and maybe as much as 1% real work, though doubt it.
>
> DOS worked so well, cos it did none of that. Boring to the sighted, but
> even they were more focussed on getting real inf
The tricky part is you give up the economy of scale by adapting a
mainstream interface. Sure, somebody could make a one-off version of a
GUI OS without the GUI but then every time some new product or other
comes out, how well would it function under the special OS? For those
who have read much
DD wrote:
>
> I too am blind and use terminal about 95 percent of the time.
>
> Iuse a dos box as a terminal lashed to the mac with a serial connection. I
> have a dos screen reader on the dos box which permits excellent fine
> detailed control over screen access to the mack ternimal activity
Luddite or genius? Who can say? (smile)
> On Dec 26, 2014, at 9:02 AM, DD wrote:
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>
> Someone offered:
>
> "I wish a graphicsless mode.
>
> This mode allows things to get very zippy and fast. for some of us, this
> graphic layer is not even necessarry. It helps with battery, and there?s mo
Someone offered:
"I wish a graphicsless mode.
This mode allows things to get very zippy and fast. for some of us, this
graphic layer is not even necessarry. It helps with battery, and there?s
more
memory for voice over related stuff. And small background tasks. That do
stuff"
I too am bl
I think a lot of us have said for a good while, that modern 'puters are 99%
eye candy or effects; and maybe as much as 1% real work, though doubt it.
DOS worked so well, cos it did none of that. Boring to the sighted, but
even they were more focussed on getting real info in or out and not just
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