Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread heather kd5cbl
yah if only NFB and ACB would get together to attack adobe's empire of inaccessibility, that would make for a real good show down! Heather - Original Message - From: "Eric Oyen" To: Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: the adobe flash accessibility

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Scott Howell
THanks Buddy for sharing this info. I guess I won't expect more than possible access to flash, which I am hoping will be replaced by html 5. THis means one less thing I would need to install. :) Scott On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:49 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Don't count on it. Adobe Reader X (X fo

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Oyen
the major problems are: 1. that doesn't help us now 2. I still can't use voiceover with any flash, regardless of version. at this point, its easier to block flash than not. -Eric On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote: > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Eric Oyen
the only way to get adobe's attention is to hit them in the wallet, HARD. if all 15 million visually impaired in the US were to join in on a class action against adobe because of their flash player, that would make a hell of a class action and really get adobe's attention. -Eric On Dec 5, 2010

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Jude DaShiell
Another case in point. The navy which is covered by Section 508 uses flash to make all of its mandatory training. Same problem you experience with facebook all screen reader users that use jfw are confronted with for this reason. The alternate form of the training uses powerpoint and sometim

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Orin
Case in point, if anyone has Facebook and plays Legacy of a Thousand Suns, the story is text based, but they use flash to add music and sound effects and also graphics. This is why I find it annoying because the story is actually quite good, I just can't seem to play it on either Mac or windows.

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Buddy Brannan
Don't count on it. Adobe Reader X (X for 10) just came out recently for Windows, and it was done with Adobe Air. Guess what? It's completely inaccessible. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Benjamin, >

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Scott Howell
Benjamin, Well thanks for sharing and what a positive correction. So, perhaps this means that Adobe will finally get their thumb out and address their other products? One can only hope, but what will still be interesting is the affect html 5 will have on flash. EIther way, maybe Adobe finally i

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Just my thoughts, but as far as I know Adobe has no plans to make anything > accessible for the Mac despite any petition. Correction: http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2010/03/flash_player_and_flex_support.html -- Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-05 Thread Scott Howell
I'm glad that at some point Flash may become a thing of the past, but I suspect it will be several years before it happens. In particular with respect to higher education. I certainly complained to the university I attended and made zero progress. The solution was to simply require the instructo

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-04 Thread Yuma Decaux
Sorry but i just did it last year, and i got no spam, as i explained that i went through gmail. Maybe that's enough simple and flat. I'm not here to discuss about federal stuff i have fed myself with all week due to wikileaks, but more about flash? So there's your answer. Sheesh this place is ge

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
It doesn't matter whether any site dealing in petitions is honorable or not. Most of the times when hackers get that information, the sites themselves don't even know that it's been done let alone profit from any arrangement with criminals. The criminals break into the sites and grab what the

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-04 Thread Yuma Decaux
Your point is valid, but if you have seen what flash can do visually, you would have a different opinion on the matter. We are left out of the flash advances because it is actually completely visually oriented. This makes giving a more audio textual functionality to it less enticing for the mak

Re: the adobe flash accessibility petition

2010-12-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
Events are rapidly overtaking adobe and flash in terms of html 5.0. Very probably once that comes out adobe flash will be able to be put in the junk software museum and left there as a particularly bad relic for the future. Another problem for web petitions is those are often used by spam arti