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>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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on apple if the Feds had to give it to the israilies
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 1:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
So the Fat Bald and Ignorant agency did not hack the phone, the outsourced it
to real professionals in this case the Israeli Intelligence. CelleBrite
So that would be Code Factory if I’m remembering correctly.
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On Behalf Of Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 1:06 PM
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Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
Hello there,
Yes Blackberry
Security is simply levels of difficulty in being cracked and usually is
a tradeoff with usability. In this case Apple had a self-destruct
mechanism so the FBI couldn't brute force the password before all the
encrypted content went poof. So the FBI was not trying to break the
encrypted data dire
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On Behalf Of Scott Granados
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That’s right up there with the rumor I heard that God exists, frankly I don’t
believe either.;)
Makes sense, Apple had some decent
AM
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Simon, that’s utter horse cocky.
If the Fat Bald and Ignorant bunch in DC can crack it open what makes you think
the chinese can’t, or anonymous, or lolsec or what happens when next year at
Deffcon all the show
Well as you said, the money is what counts and yes the US government is a big
customer so you know what walks and money talks.
As for my paranoia, it’s real but I think it’s also warranted. There’s to much
real history, not conspiracy theory but real unclassified, public history we
can agree o
Well before you go galloping off to Blackberry, check this out:
http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/12/the-encryption-debate-a-way-forward/
The US government is quite the customer, I understand. Nothing personal, bro.
But the money is more important. :)
Still, he went rather quiet when the case f
What we see here is the left hand supporting Israel and the right
hand supporting terrorist activity. We do not need to be doing either.
But once the avalanche starts, we cannot stop. "We" being the
government.
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ple if the Feds had to give it to the israilies
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>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
>
> So the Fat Bald and Ignorant agency did not hack the phone, the outsourced it
> to real professionals in this case the Israeli Intelligence.
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 7:26 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
>
> I must say that I am glad the FBI hacked int
Google is as much under threat as Apple, no OS is safe. Government will
fabricate lies to scare the population in to backing them. What’s curious is
it failed in this case. with the exception of a few Vaughn’s out there and
Bill Gates who like the fact it’s been cracked most people turned aga
Vaughn, if you believe there’s a real war on terror you’re playing right in to
their hands. There’s nothing real or unmanufactured about what’s going on.
Note that while the US targets ISIS / DAESH or what ever you want to call them
with one set of resources we back them and pay them with yet
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 2:47 PM
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This makes me wonder if Tim Cook is telling the truth. If memory serves, he
said they can’t brake into one iPhone without
e it to the israilies
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> Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 1:59 AM
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> Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
>
> So the Fat B
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I must say that I am glad the FBI hacked into the phone from which the
terrorist operated from. Now, I do believe in privacy and would hope that this
phone hack was an individual case; and what technique was applied cannot be
applied
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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So the Fat Bald and Ignorant agency did not hack the phone, the outsourced it
to real professionals in this case the Israeli Intelligence. CelleBrite is a
company that spun out of Israel that does exactly that, cracks cell
I know, those darn terrorists ruin it for everyone, don't they?
On 03/29/2016 04:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
Why do terrorists want to use an I phone to do their dirty work? They should
have use an android device. So now it’s probably been ruined for us all, a
floor in some of Apple’s so
Why do terrorists want to use an I phone to do their dirty work? They should
have use an android device. So now it’s probably been ruined for us all, a
floor in some of Apple’s software and endless trouble for the company to get it
sorted.
Kawal.
> On 29 Mar 2016, at 19:26, Vaughn Brown wrot
I must say that I am glad the FBI hacked into the phone from which the
terrorist operated from. Now, I do believe in privacy and would hope
that this phone hack was an individual case; and what technique was
applied cannot be applied to all phones.
It is only fair that raging a war on terrorists in
It's just not true that anything one person can make, someone else can
break. There are plenty of forms of encryption that simply cannot be
broken. The fact that the FBI got into this phone doesn't disprove that.
For all we know, they hacked into the guy's facebook account and when
they tried
Chuck,
I extended an invitation first which you declined. You cannot
explain a thing to me so let's not waste each other's time as well as
the list's. If you change your mind and want serious dialog, email me
off list.
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Many believe that
Hey E.T.
still love to say hello by phone, I could explain all your questions much
quicker! :)
Do you have a real name or did the ancient aliens give you this E.T. name? ;)
Chuck
On Mar 29, 2016, at 10:34 AM, E.T. wrote:
> We, or rather, our government, funds Israel because a religious group s
Well I’m still pretty big on the PR conspiracy theory. :)
In any event, strong crypto is the answer. It always was, and it always will
be. You don’t have to be particularly cynical or libertarian to see that this
was really a security failure, assuming the FBI was indeed successful.
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The f
We, or rather, our government, funds Israel because a religious
group said we must or we will be fried by a higher power. To the tune of
what, 5 billion annually?
Troubling where Congress has its priorities.
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Many believe that we have b
Lol that’s funny but no that’s not why we fund them. We fund them because they
are our best partner in the region surrounded by hostile forces on all sides.
However, this is outside the scope of this list and the finer points of united
nations actions in 1948 are definitely not apple related.:
No this company already had the mechanisms in place. Israel is very good at
signals intelligence and this sort of thing. It does not surprise me that we
worked with them at all.
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:55 AM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Likely they worked over less important phones in their possessio
Likely they worked over less important phones in their possession in
test runs. So much work Congress needs to do and will not touch (the
slime balls), such as emails over 6 months old is fair game. Bigger
mouse? How about Willard the Rat?
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I don’t know about that, there’s unbreakable and then there’s unbreakable.
I think you’re advocating the bigger mouse, bigger mouse trap continuum which
does make a great deal of sense. In this case though what I’d like to know is
did they just break in to this one phone or break them all thro
Hi,
I think your wrong. Here is the scoop. Anything can be broken it doesn’t
matter what it is. It’s been proven time and time again if a human makes it a
human can break it and that’s all I have to say read between the lines.
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2016 8:22 PM
> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
>
> It’s a bit concerning though, because it implies that the FBI now have a way
>
So the Fat Bald and Ignorant agency did not hack the phone, the outsourced it
to real professionals in this case the Israeli Intelligence. CelleBrite is a
company that spun out of Israel that does exactly that, cracks cell phones and
communications.
I think it’s interesting now that apple is c
2016 8:22 PM
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Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple
It’s a bit concerning though, because it implies that the FBI now have a way to
break Apple’s security. So what could that say about the security Apple is
providing?
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