Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
I'm sure you will find some when you poke around in macOS. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/7/2019 9:41 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: I still want to know what these bugs are. I

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
I guess no one surely knows until they try the new operating system, just make sure you have used Super Duper or similar to perform a full backup before you start. > On 8 Oct 2019, at 3:41 am, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I still want to know what these bugs are. I mean, ir

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread Dane Trethowan
Or 3 or 4. > On 8 Oct 2019, at 2:22 am, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Rushed? Maybe. But no doubt Apple is already building macOS 10.16. Perhaps > even 10.17. So why bother with Catalina, just wait a year... or two. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! FIrst of all the Safari bug is stil present where voiceover says insertionpoint at blbla. Secondly the brailledisplay just gets blank when i try to read some text on some pages. I try to interact with the text with no luck. The only thing that helps is to turn off quicknav and move the curso

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
I still want to know what these bugs are. I mean, irritating in Safari isn’t very specific. I want to know if they’re irritating enough to justify holding off or not. > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:45 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Interesting perspective, because many many complaints

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Interesting perspective, because many many complaints are in fact Voiceover bugs. So Voiceover is not of much importance as the rest. We'll just suggest that Voiceover users send feedback to Apple. Right. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been vis

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
I’m bothering because I have this idea that with Catalina will come iPad apps, like Overcast, Voice Dream Reader and Writer, and so many games. I will hold this idea until it is mercilessly shattered in a year or two when it sinks in that no, developers don’t really have a need to support Mac. A

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Rushed? Maybe. But no doubt Apple is already building macOS 10.16. Perhaps even 10.17. So why bother with Catalina, just wait a year... or two. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/7/2019 8:12 AM,

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
No, I was not serious. Really, if you require a rock-solid build, I’d wait until the second major release, or even until next June when it should be pretty solid, lol. That’s just one of the problems of having a yearly release, things are rushed. > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:02 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVis

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Are you serious, Devin? Let me see... No, this isn't SNL. Fact check. The Catalina public beta started over 3 months ago. I guess iOS/iPadOS was the primary focus and Macs are primarily used in work environments so it is not worthy of our time snf effort. By the way. if those blind people at

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
Lol because its release week now and oh my gosh it’ll actually effect a large number of people now and we may not be ready. Ah well, maybe there are blind people at Apple who use Macs who can help whatever bugs remain get ironed out because Macs are work devices. At least the pro ones. > On Oct

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
We should have had these discussions on the public beta group. Why now? From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 10/7/2019 6:49 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: What irritating things? May we

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
What irritating things? May we please have specifics here? > On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > You can upgrade but be aware that there are irritating things with Safari and > VoiceOver. > Especially if you’re using a braille display. > /A > >> 6 okt. 2019 kl. 17:29 s

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-07 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! You can upgrade but be aware that there are irritating things with Safari and VoiceOver. Especially if you’re using a braille display. /A > 6 okt. 2019 kl. 17:29 skrev Dave Carlson : > > Haven’t heard lately from any of the early adopters/testers of the Catalina > release. Is it stable, or

RE: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Thought it was something like that yes. -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 12:10 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Catalina OSx 2016, started with Sierra. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
sionaries Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 5:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Catalina OSx OS X has long been replaced by macOS. No, Catalina has not yet been released, but it should happen this week. No, there is no compelling reason to upgrade. You can stick with Mojave and

RE: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
release of production version. As for your ability, I’d say advanced beginner to intermediate. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Petrus Tuerlings Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 8:21 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Catalina OSx That is what I intend doing, I’m quite

RE: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I think 2 years ET, -Original Message- From: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 5:20 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Catalina OSx OS X has long been replaced by macOS. No, Catalina has not yet been released, but it should happen

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
That is what I intend doing, I’m quite happy to sit back and let others find any bugs or issues with voice over. I still regard myself as a beginner and don’t want to get any surprises. Also I’ve always used modern view in the email app so losing the classic view doesn’t bother me. > On 7/10/

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
OS X has long been replaced by macOS. No, Catalina has not yet been released, but it should happen this week. No, there is no compelling reason to upgrade. You can stick with Mojave and watch feedback from users. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have

Re: Catalina OSx

2019-10-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
The release comes later this week as I understand it. >From a Voiceover perspective things have changed a little. If you use the Apple Mail client then you’re going to have to live without the “Classic View” of Mail. I was hoping we as users of Voiceover might be able to make some use of the seco