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>>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick. At least it has for me >>>> numerous times. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:58, Christopher

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7;ll definitely take it into account, should the need rise. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Donna Goodin" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate Chris, Just in case you have trouble, when I did this I had better

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>>> to the Modern View and the change should stick. At least it has for me >>> numerous times. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >>

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Hi! You can do this by turning quicknav off. /A > 13 apr 2015 kl. 18:10 skrev Deb Lewis : > > Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for > me it hasn't. > > On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> Hi! >> I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine. >>

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m Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 13, 2015, at 21:58, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > And here's another! billion dollar question: how do you shut off! the > preview payne in Yosemite, and while at it, also how do you do it in > Mavericks 10.9.5?

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he >> >> message window and return to your message list. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Deb Lewis" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last

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o it in Mavericks 10.9.5? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" To: Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate Hi, No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, is only usable when the P

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And here's another! billion dollar question: how do you shut off! the preview payne in Yosemite, and while at it, also how do you do it in Mavericks 10.9.5? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" To: Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:22 PM Subject: Re: An

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- > From: "Deb Lewis" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate > > >> Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for >> me it hasn't. >> >> On 4/13/15, And

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list. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Deb Lewis" To: Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for me it hasn't. On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg wrot

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I don' thave the preview payne open so that would explain it. VO-J does read the window but in the same way that reading it from the scroll view does. On 4/13/15, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, > is only usable when the Pr

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Hi, No, QuickNav should not be part of the picture. The VO-j method, of course, is only usable when the Preview Pane is active. As long as the VO-j action automatically interacts with the Message Content area, it should still work for you. Should is my favourite word in computer-land though.

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When I do VO-J I can't read line by line. It says text but then it's still only readable as an entire message. Do you have to be using quick nav for this to work? On 4/13/15, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I believe what is happening here is primarily related to iMap mail accounts > not loading me

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Hi, I believe what is happening here is primarily related to iMap mail accounts not loading messages as fast as they should. I have three main accounts along with a few seldom used others. Of the three main accounts, one is an iCloud iMap, one a POP, and one a Google Apps gMail iMap account.

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Voiceover J does not allow you to read line by line. At least not for me it hasn't. On 4/13/15, Anders Holmberg wrote: > Hi! > I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine. > /A >> 12 apr 2015 kl. 04:51 skrev Deb Lewis : >> >> Yes, interacting has not been effective at all. >>>

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Hi! I use the voiceover j command to read mails and that works fine. /A > 12 apr 2015 kl. 04:51 skrev Deb Lewis : > > Yes, interacting has not been effective at all. >> On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote: >> >> Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo

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glegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 07:40 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate > > Yes, that requires that you have the Preview Pane open. I don't, because t

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Yes, I’ve had this problem since the release of Yosemite. I’m now consistently working around it using QuickNav or interaction. If not for the other genuinely useful stuff in Yosemite (in particular Safari and ARIA), this one would kill it for me. -- You received this message because you are

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How do you remove the preview pain, please. thanks From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 07:40 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate Yes

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Yes, that requires that you have the Preview Pane open. I don't, because that will cause any message you arrow past to be marked as read even if you didn't read it. I ely too much on the unread status to put up with that. > On Apr 12, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Don't you have to

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Don't you have to have preview enabled to do that? Pressing VO-J does nothing when I do it, though I know I did use that method after I first got a Mac back in 2009. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 12, 2015, at 9:06 AM, ROBERT CARTER wrote: > > Hi, > > I know that people use different methods to read

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Hi, I know that people use different methods to read mail. I always tab to the messages table and use VO+j to toggle between the message header and the text of the message. When done this way, the arrow keys work just fine in the latest update. Robert Carter > On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:53 AM, Do

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Gee, glad I saw this thread. I was planning on updating today, and now I think I'll hold off. Cheers, Donna > On Apr 11, 2015, at 9:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just arrow. > Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l t

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Hi, waht about interacting and switching off Quick Nav. Does it help? Luckily I’ve never experienced this issue even though I used 10.10.2 and do use 10.10.3 now. All the best Jürgen > Am 12.04.2015 um 10:36 schrieb Andrew Lamanche : > > This behaviour started since Yosemite 10.10.2 on my mac.

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This behaviour started since Yosemite 10.10.2 on my mac. The only way round it for me is to close the message and open it again and then I can just use my arrow keys. Initially, in 10.10.2 it would happen just on the first message I would attempt to open. But in 10.10.3 it happens more regula

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May be you all should try disk repair From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Lewis Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 19:51 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Annoying mac Mail Issue since Last UPdate Yes, interacting has

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Yes, interacting has not been effective at all. > On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:49 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just arrow. > Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l to move through > them. VoiceOver gets stuck on the first one

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Even if I interact, though, I have to use vo-arrows, I can't just arrow. Worse, if a message has multiple links and I use vo-cmd-l to move through them. VoiceOver gets stuck on the first one. It might even say the second or third as I move, but it is actually stuck on the first no matter what. >

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Hui, I also notest this. I just interact and all is well. Matthew On 04/11/2015 10:18 PM, Deb Lewis wrote: Hi: I’m noticing since updating the Mac this week that when I open a mail message it no longer is possible to arrow through the message by lines. Now it says message content area an

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Yes I have noticed that opening the message over and over seems to eventually get it but of course that’s tedious. i’ll write Accessibility. > On Apr 11, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Yes, this is a 10.10.3 issue I strongly recommend you email to Apple > Accessibility. In the meantime

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Yes, this is a 10.10.3 issue I strongly recommend you email to Apple Accessibility. In the meantime, I find that closing and opening the message 2 or 3 times will fix it. There's a chance that toggling "load remote content" in Mail's preferences will help, but I can't be sure of that yet. Sent f

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When there you need to interact with the message and then you can choos from the rotor controls which way to read -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Deb Lewis Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 19:18 To: macvisionari