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> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: suggestion [was: Re: the anti cleaning article]
>
>
> yep. I use apple mail here and it has a very large selection of filters I can
> use. I can even filter based on any of the hidden header information (those
you having to do it
on the server side. Oh well though. You can't have everything. Smile.
Chris.
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From: "Eric Oyen"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion [was: Re: the anti cleaning article]
yep. I use apple ma
and who will monitor the monitor?
On 8/26/15 1:56 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
Of course, as always, it helps to remember that if nobody replied to the
abuser, we wouldn’t have these issues. But it also helps to know that a
moderator can do this quickly in response to a general consensus o
yep. I use apple mail here and it has a very large selection of filters I can
use. I can even filter based on any of the hidden header information (those
pesky X-lines). It has allowed me to dump more spam than even gmail could (and
do it properly).
-eric
On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:10 AM, Scott Gr
13:11
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
Hi, agreed just get rid of the person that is causing the problem that is
what I would have done if it was on my list.
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:57, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>
> Why should everybody have to cr
Hi, agreed just get rid of the person that is causing the problem that is
what I would have done if it was on my list.
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 16:57, Jim Gatteys wrote:
>
> Why should everybody have to create a rule to filter out one objectionable
> person when a moderator could handle that quic
but aren't you doing the same by responding to his response?
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:32 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> And see instead of wasting your time and mine by writing that you could have
> hit the delete key, taken less than 500 milliseconds and moved on.
>
>
>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:
Some numbers for your edification. You have posted 12 times to my 3
today. Who is wasting whose time? (smiles)
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On 8/26/2015 11:32 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
And see
And see instead of wasting your time and mine by writing that you could have
hit the delete key, taken less than 500 milliseconds and moved on.
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:30 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> A mail filter is not workable in all situations such as the one under heavy
> discussion. The reason
A mail filter is not workable in all situations such as the one
under heavy discussion. The reasons given are clear. Your comment was
not necessary.
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On 8/26/2015 11
This is what I was suggesting but several folks got their panties in a bunch
and feel that filtering is unacceptable. They’d rather be spoon fed I suppose
than work their own silverware.
Good point though
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:05 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>
> may I offer a suggestion? there are
may I offer a suggestion? there are mail filters that can be applied from the
end user. Most mail clients can actually do this based on a number of criteria.
So, if someone uses a foul tongue and makes threats, just filter their mail
into the trash based on that offenders email address, or based
Of course, as always, it helps to remember that if nobody replied to the
abuser, we wouldn’t have these issues. But it also helps to know that a
moderator can do this quickly in response to a general consensus or clear harm
being done, and that, for better or worse, people will respond angrily
That’s an easy one, because no one person can and should speak for anyone else.
We’ve already discussed on this thread what happens when a moderator goes all
power hungry. I remember when it happened on an iteration of this list
probably 4 years back now and most people left the group because t
Why should everybody have to create a rule to filter out one objectionable
person when a moderator could handle that quickly and efficiently.
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to the
> trash.
>
> Sim
The point is, that does not work since there are others who reply to his
abuses, and I receive these emails too. I’m not going to rule everyone for one
offensive member.
> On 27/08/2015, at 1:04 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>
> Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatical
Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to the
trash.
Simple, problem solved and no moderation.
> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>
> ET is right, I am afraid to say this.
>
> I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted
ET is right, I am afraid to say this.
I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted, then
asked pardon, justifying some personal issues which do not belong to any
mailing list, then repeat the process almost within the hour. If he is so
defensive and threatening towards
There are as many opinions here as there are members of this group.
This issue is generating a lot of traffic that is not helpful to the
grpup. We have one person who cannot control himself. Banning him will
break the fever and let the group move on.
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ancient.ali..
A very simple solution is for everyone to be aware that the list is moderated,
and throw in a public warning to whoever is continuously abusing others
verbally, not necessarily ban the person. The point is to make the offensive
person reflect on themselves. Banning them would result in upsets an
Yes until you’ve eventually removed everyone from deviating from your
acceptable use over time.
Banning someone from any mailing list is just weak sauce. The only exception
to that at least for me is spammers. There have been serious lack of
moderation and spam problems on other lists like th
It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos.
Removing that person permanently would return the list to a relatively
peaceful and more focused environment.
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if
Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, totally
noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back toward the noisy
end. I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it style of discussion, but
there’s something to be said for having a person—possibly just on
t is! Especially if you are as smart as you clame to
>>>> be Tylor, and first make a backup. This way, if something goes boom,
>>>> restore the backup. You should always do this anyway when doing
>>>> maintanence.
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>&
is! Especially if you are as smart as you clame to be
>>> Tylor, and first make a backup. This way, if something goes boom, restore
>>> the backup. You should always do this anyway when doing maintanence.
>>>
>>> Chris.
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I see the following:
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to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
What a fantastic idea. See y'all kiddies later. Have fun in the sandbox. Or
something.
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Phone: 814-860-3194
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always do this anyway when doing maintanence.
>>
>> Chris.
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>> - Original Message - From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday
- From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
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> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
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Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
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> I have some goo
From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
> To: Sent:
> Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM Subject: Re: the anti cleaning
> article
>
>
> I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
> installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn
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Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
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I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
installing stuff you shoul
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To:
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: the anti cleaning article
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I have some good news for you--unless you're really dumb and start
installing stuff you shouldn't, or go to sites you shouldn't you don't
get viruses. Even more shocking is that generally this applies to
Windows as well.
The thing with cleaners, wheth
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