h well gives me something to play with at work tomorrow.
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From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2019 12:14 AM
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: new mac books
You can always use an external keyboard while it's at home or at you
essage-
From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books
So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly surprised.
Best,
Janina
Simon F
Thanks Janina,
I'll let you know how it goes.
Simon F
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From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 11 June 2019 4:04 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books
So, good luck with it, Simon! May you be pleasantly s
ter option.
> If I get stuck I'll just make changes with a hot stick or something.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new mac books
jka' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Monday, 10 June 2019 1:27 PM
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Hi, Simon:
Being limited to 8Gb RAM might be a problem if you're running Win10, and
especially if running in a vm.
But, I should think a keyboard you don't l
gt; From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM
> To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
> Subject: Re: new mac books
>
> Thanks very much for this info, Shawn.
>
>
> These days I'm preferring the smallest and li
use to the new
butterfly keyboard as I'm guessing it's not going anywhere quickly.
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From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2019 12:20 AM
To: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: new mac books
Thanks very
Thanks very much for this info, Shawn.
These days I'm preferring the smallest and lightest physical unit I can
get packed to the teeth with RAM, CPU, and SSD. So, a 2017 Air might
just be the ticket.
Janina
'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries writes:
> I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did
I'm unaware of grub being used as the primary boot loader. I know it can
be a secondary loader, as can the systemd loader.
'Jason White' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Can Grub be installed on a recent Mac? If so, it might be your solution.
>
> I know their UEFI implementation is non-standard, but
Hi,
The MacOS version is immaterial to the startup chime. The chime is part of the
basic firmware and hardware check, not an OS feature.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Jun 3, 2019, at 22:04, 'Sha
Hi!
It should be configurable as i don’t like it.
THere’s a small sound when you turn your mac on without the bootchime.
Its just a half of a second but you really have to have silence around you to
hear that.
At least that’s what i hear from my mac when i turn it on with no chime.
But i have the
I should've said the 2017 MacBook Air did the startup chime in Mojave which is
what I have.
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 11:03 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm
> currently beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 s
Hi Janina. In Mojave, the 2017 models did make the startup chime. I'm currently
beta testing Catalina which is 10.15 so I can't say if it's still there or not.
> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> I'm also interested in this question and wondering whet
that all services were functioning correctly.
> Oh and that wally was charging but whether that still fits I can't be
> sure.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:37 AM
> To: macvisionaries@goog
27;Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 6:37 AM
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Subject: Re: new mac books
Yes, I'm not surprised. I'm just not recalling exactly when it was removed from
what models, and whether or not it's now too late to pick up
legroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books
I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017 models
still have the boot chime?
Janina
Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Listers,
>
> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace my mid 2013 11"
> MacBook
HI tim,
>From us we’re looking at approx. 2500 Km to the west in probably Sydney as the
>closest.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 4 June 2019 2:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books
Hi,
Hmmm, I'm not sure that access
Can Grub be installed on a recent Mac? If so, it might be your solution.
I know their UEFI implementation is non-standard, but it's still a worthwhile
question.
On 6/3/19, 14:37, "'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries"
wrote:
I can't imagine what that could be.
I note that grub offe
I can't imagine what that could be.
I note that grub offers the option of playing sound. If one wants sound
in a grub mediated boot, one is able to add a directive to provide that.
'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to
Yes, I'm not surprised. I'm just not recalling exactly when it was
removed from what models, and whether or not it's now too late to pick
up any that still have it unused.
As to why, I suspect it's as simple as most sighted computer users,
perhaps I should say many sighted users have a strong aver
Yes I am sure there will be a reason but it is one of those odd annoyances
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 19:20, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to some Apple
> System Engineers,
Hi,
I'm not sure why they removed it either. I've made my noise to some Apple
System Engineers, but really haven't got any traction. There's probably some
firmware level security reason, but I'm not smart enough to know it.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recogniti
Hi,
I have a 2018 model and no boot chime I really missed it in many ways and have
wondered why the removed it
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 18:48, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The MBP models no longer have the Boot Chime. I have th
Hi,
The MBP models no longer have the Boot Chime. I have the 2017 model and it
does not have the Boot Chime. I'm pretty sure that all the new release models
no longer have the Boot Chime.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
For
I'm also interested in this question and wondering whether the 2017
models still have the boot chime?
Janina
Simon Fogarty writes:
> Hi Listers,
>
> It's looking like I'm going to have to replace my mid 2013 11" MacBookAir,
>
> Currently the closest replacement would be the still currently ava
@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 2:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new mac books
Hi,
I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that it will ever be an
option. They may design a new non-butt
MBA with the older and nicer keyboard style,
Although the Pro is a nice machines.
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 2:25 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new mac books
Hi,
I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that
conclusion: they all have benefits and shortcomings. Choose the trade-offs
that best suit your situation and purchase accordingly.
From: Macvisionaries
Reply-To: Macvisionaries
Date: Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 10:25
To: Macvisionaries
Subject: Re: new mac books
Hi,
I've not heard of s
Hi,
I've not heard of such a thing and I really doubt that it will ever be an
option. They may design a new non-butterfly option at some point, but I
believe, from history, that once they move forward with something like the new
design, you're out of luck with them going back.
Later...
Tim K
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