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er 2016 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released I didn't know there were problems with Mail to start with. Mail seems to work fine here, but perhaps I don't have mine configured like most would. Chris. --

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Thanks. Chris. - Original Message - From: Shawn Krasniuk To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:44 PM Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Hey guys. For those of you who wanted the battery script, I'll paste the dropbox lin

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Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:17 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released > > I didn't know there

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Mac daly news reported it when they announced the upgrade. I receive the daly news emails. Matthew > On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > WHat’s the reason? DO you have a pointer to the article? > >> On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer >> wrote: >> >> Tim, >> >>

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rs with what you have; impress them with who you are. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:09 PM >> T

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rk Gilland Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2016 8:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released I didn't know there were problems with Mail to start with. Mail seems to work fine here, but perhaps I don't have mine configured like most would. Chris. --

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:21 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Did a quick read and it makes sense to me. I really do not believe the time remaining on a battery is reliable but that is me

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I wonder if Cocktail or Tinkertool will be able to bring it back? On 14 December 2016 at 16:13, Scott Granados wrote: > Tim between you and me, I think that’s weak sauce. > > I knew the time remaining wasn’t hugely accurate but this seems like Apple > dumbing down their product because users can

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m: "Robert Hill" To: Cc: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 3:42 PM Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Hello all, What I have done is to ask Siri what my battery charge status is. That works quickly. i did send an email to Apple Accessibility about the

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al Message - From: "BBS" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:10 PM Subject: RE: OSX 10.12.2 released Hi guys. A couple things here. I can still get battery percentages with the battery status Applescript that I have. If anyone wants it, let me know. Second, has anyone run

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how one will check the battery status, if we can't do so from >> the Menu Extras area any longer? >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" > <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> >> To: > <mailto:macvisionaries@

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eems to work fine here, but perhaps I don't have mine configured like most would. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:55 PM Subject: RE: OSX 10.12.2 released Has the problems with mail been fixed?

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, December 14, 2016 3:21 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Did a quick read and it makes sense to me. I really do not believe the time remaining on a battery is reliable but that is me. I am still in update mode. Perhaps the lack of a VO speaking

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Hi, I'm with Scott. The time remaining was of no consequence to me anyway. I just relied on the battery percentage. Now that's missing as well. Bummer. I guess I need to put in a note to Accessibility. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Dec 14, 2016, at 14:20, E.T. wrote:

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Did a quick read and it makes sense to me. I really do not believe the time remaining on a battery is reliable but that is me. I am still in update mode. Perhaps the lack of a VO speaking percentage is a minor bug? If the image is there then that must be it. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Wi

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Tim between you and me, I think that’s weak sauce. I knew the time remaining wasn’t hugely accurate but this seems like Apple dumbing down their product because users can’t think straight. I don’t like that. Should be a toggled deal. But that’s me. > On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:07 PM, Tim Kilbur

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Scott, The original link had a typo in it. Here's what I've found: http://www.loopinsight.com/2016/12/13/macos-sierra-10-12-2-released/ Again, it appears that there's still an image of the percentage, but VO isn't able to

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Scott, thanks I will keep trying to get it straightened out.I will remember your offer of assistance.Junior LolleyKG4ITDLiberty County Emergency Coordinator."The 3 C’s of life: choices, chances, and changes. You must make a choice to take a chance or your life will never change."Don't impress other

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WHat’s the reason? DO you have a pointer to the article? > On Dec 14, 2016, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer > wrote: > > Tim, > > > This is by design. I read about it earlyer. > > > Matthew > > > > > On 12/14/2016 11:58 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> One thing of note, it appears that

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Tim, This is by design. I read about it earlyer. Matthew On 12/14/2016 11:58 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, One thing of note, it appears that the Battery Menu Extras item has lost the ability to announce the current Battery level. That is, as you move across the Menu Extras, the current

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u are. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:09 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released >

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t know there were problems with Mail to start with. Mail seems to work > fine here, but perhaps I don't have mine configured like most would. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2

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would. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:55 PM Subject: RE: OSX 10.12.2 released Has the problems with mail been fixed? Junior Lolley kg4itd Liberty County Emergency Coordinator "The 3 C’s of life: choices,

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gt; > - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:41 PM > Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released > > > Hi! > This is removed for all users of the mac osx sierra from now on. > I saw this in an article. > /A >>

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I wonder then how one will check the battery status, if we can't do so from the Menu Extras area any longer? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Anders Holmberg" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 2:41 PM Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Hi! This is removed f

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t; fine here, but perhaps I don't have mine configured like most would. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD" > > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:55 PM > Subject: RE: OSX 10.12.2 released > > > Has t

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Hi, Yes, I saw that now, although, it appears that sighted users can still see the percentage battery level, which I'm still not seeing with VO. You can go into System Prefs and determine the battery level in the Energy Saver pane, but it doesn't appear to be quick and easy. I'm OK with remov

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Hi! This is removed for all users of the mac osx sierra from now on. I saw this in an article. /A > 14 dec. 2016 kl. 17:58 skrev Tim Kilburn : > > Hi, > > One thing of note, it appears that the Battery Menu Extras item has lost the > ability to announce the current Battery level. That is, as yo

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you have; impress them with who you are. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Yu

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. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:48 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released &g

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f Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:09 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released I wasn’t aware of any mail issues with apple mail. But then I am using a mid Mac mini from 2014, so maybe it’s for older models? > On Dec 14, 2016, at 12:55 PM, Ju

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riginal Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:48 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released > > Yup, was released yesterday

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There is an article on iDonwLoadBlog.com on why the battery issue is there. What I am happy about they fixed, you no longer have to log in to connected servers after a restart, do it once, and it remembers the password in your keychain as it should. I did a clean install, as I hadn’t done one

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ith who you are. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton Miller Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:48 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Yup, was released yesterday af

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Has braille at all improved from the last build of Sierra? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:50 AM Subject: Re: OSX 10.12.2 released Hi, Got it up here in the Great White Frozen North at about 2:00-ish MST. Ther

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Hi, One thing of note, it appears that the Battery Menu Extras item has lost the ability to announce the current Battery level. That is, as you move across the Menu Extras, the current battery level, or time until charged used to be announced. This is no longer the case for me. Later... Tim

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I noticed the same thing but it was incremental for me as I was updating with each beta. It seems like a pretty substantial update in size and as you mentioned firmware as well. Might blow out the install and do a clean 10.12.2 install although so far it’s responding beautifully. > On Dec 14,

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Hi, Got it up here in the Great White Frozen North at about 2:00-ish MST. There must be some updates to firmware and other base operations as I got the solid tone and about six restarts before it finished the process. All seems to be running smooth after the update. Later.. Tim Kilburn Fort

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Ah very good, seems like it’s working great. Doesn’t freeze when I log out and running fast and stable as usual. Still need to test Braille but so far so good. > On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Kliphton Miller wrote: > > Yup, was released yesterday afternoon about 1 EST >> On Dec 14, 2016, a

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Yup, was released yesterday afternoon about 1 EST > On Dec 14, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I was able to download 10.12.2 this morning, looks to be a public release. > Enjoying it so far and find the initial stability issues from the beta have > been worked out. Update em if