Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-18 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Next year the Apple Watch should make its debut so if you can't upgrade before the Apple Watch debut then this is something to consider. Nobody knows when exactly it will be on sale though. Sent from my laptop On 18/10/2014 14:54, Eugenia Firth wrote: I thought part of the presentation, the

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-18 Thread Eugenia Firth
I thought part of the presentation, the part where he made the call on his Mac, was funny. As for Apple Pay, I am really not pleased with AT&T not letting me upgrade to a iPHone six so I can do it. I can't upgrade until next October. Yesterday, I had to sign on those irritating receipts, so if a

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-18 Thread Chris G
Right, my point was to sell my iPad mini 2 128gbw/ cell service and get an iPad mini 3 if it supported apple pay in the stores. I don't really care about apps. (smile) It doesn't support apple pay in the stores so I won't be buying one. Might consider an iPhone 6 though. Depends on my current

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Kevin Cussick
Hi, if you send it to kevin.cuss...@gmail.com I would be very grateful. thanks in advance. On 16 Oct 2014, at 20:57, John Panarese wrote: > Actually, there is. I've been using an adaptor since 2011 successfully. I > can send the info to anyone who wants it. > > > Take Care > > John D. P

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I've couldn't say it better myself Cheryl. Thats how it is. I don't really bother but i ofcourse would like to hear more about hardware specs and voiceover and such as a tech nerd. /A 16 okt 2014 kl. 23:53 skrev Cheryl Homiak : > That's because you are blind, just like I am! We are not the ma

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You can go on the website and look at specs. The visual stuff they want to actually show you during the presentation. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despair

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
The tricky bit Apple is approaching is that hardware is about at the limit. Long ago the audio reached a point where any improvement would not be discernible by most people's ears (192k fanbois noted). Now the retina display has reached the same point where any more improvement won't be detecta

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
I thought the mini bogging down without a display (or adapter to trick it) had been fixed in more recent models? CB On 10/16/14, 3:57 PM, John Panarese wrote: Actually, there is. I've been using an adaptor since 2011 successfully. I can send the info to anyone who wants it. Take Care

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Because its the less expensive mac. /A 16 okt 2014 kl. 21:52 skrev Michael Marshall : > What is the point of getting a mac mini? I just cannot understand it. Each to > their own but it just makes no sense to me. >> On 17 Oct 2014, at 6:48 am, Rich Ring wrote: >> >> But, sadly, you still nee

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yeah, time will tell, no one knows at the moment presumably because it's under NDA whether Apple Pay is VO friendly or not. Sent from my laptop On 17/10/2014 12:55, Robin wrote: But IS Apple's ApplePay friendly/accessible for VoiceOver (VO) users and/or Zoom users, I guess time will tell when

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Robin
But IS Apple's ApplePay friendly/accessible for VoiceOver (VO) users and/or Zoom users, I guess time will tell when Apple's iOS8.1 is PUSHED OUT to The Public on Monday, October 20TH. At 04:16 AM 10/17/2014, you wrote: Well trust us it does but only within select apps whereas Apple Pay on the

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Well trust us it does but only within select apps whereas Apple Pay on the iPhone 6 and 6+ will work both in select stores and apps. Sent from my laptop On 17/10/2014 10:40, Chris G wrote: They didn't say anything about the new iPads supporting apple pay. That is the only reason I'd upgrade

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Chris G
> sure; and the air2 I think. > - Original Message - > From: "Chris G" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:40 AM > Subject: Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing > > > They didn't say anything about the new iPads supporting

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread BobH.
They did you know, sure that was one of the few additions to the Mini for sure; and the air2 I think. - Original Message - From: "Chris G" To: Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing They didn't say anything abou

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Chris G
also, truthfully, the majority doesn't care about specs these days. As long as it does what they want and its responsive, they don't care. Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 803-8528 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mail

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Chris G
They didn't say anything about the new iPads supporting apple pay. That is the only reason I'd upgrade my iPad mini 2. Chris Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Phone: (716) 803-8528 web: www.mysticaccess.com Accessible Gadgets mailing list: >

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Who is the majority? Not us and therefore snazzy visual things are always going to take presidence over boring non-visual things, that's the way of the world. That said, i think the keynote had much to offer. We got a release date for Ios 8.1, we got Yosemite and for those who unlike me are out

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-17 Thread BobH.
--- Original Message - From: "Cheryl Homiak" To: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:38 PM Subject: Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing Well, actually, with my 2008 mac mini, which I can't upgrade past Lion, this is still possible. It works fine with an adapter ha

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
You can use an iMac as a target display for a Mini or notebook, but you do require compatible Macs. In particular, and I discovered this the hard way, you cannot drive a MiniDisplayPort iMac with a Thunderbolt Mac Mini, and you cannot drive a Thunderbolt iMac with a MDP-equipped Mini. That mea

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Joseph
Hello, Well, I wrote a letter to Cook about a week ago regarding all the recent problems. And you guessed it. Of course he didn't reply. Not surprising. I suppose he's just to busy to answer a consumer of his products. On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:58 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Thinking of an open lett

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
Apple is by no means the worst offender in my comp quote never mind whether it works well or not" rent. The problem is, the systems are complex. And we seem to bend over backwards to allow for that, rather than expect that releases of new products might take longer, but the product will work wel

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Thinking of an open letter to Cook. Not, of course, that he will ever actually read it: after all, it's just a blind guy writing it right? Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Yep, it's worth it for me to upgrade my Mini too, as a server I welcome the extra capacity and the single disk. Saves messing about with RAID0 or CoreStorage. Otherwise: nothing to see here, move along. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisio

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I don't frankly think the "mever mind whether it works well or not" is justified though to each their own! Almost every iphone or ipad or computer of any kind I've bought from Apple keeps on working faithfully and meets my needs or I wouldn't continue to buy them. An anything I had that didn't w

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
That's because you are blind, just like I am! We are not the majority, remember? Visual improvements and "eye candy" matter to a lot of people who can see. What do you think some of them would say if there was a whole lot about voiceover, other than the fact that some might find it interesting?

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You are right: each to their own! My first couple of Macs and one I used for my daughter for her music for years were minis and I loved them. I still have an old ppc mini and a 2008 intel; the ppc one won't go beyond Leopard so I have it running linux; the 2008 one won't go beyond Lion but I can

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
Apple has never been particularly long on offering specs. And the specs by themselves mean nothing, witness their camera doing so well, even though it doesn't "spec out" against some others that don't perform as well in the real world. I think it would be nice to be able to run the mini without

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Mary Otten
Ray, Sadly, in terms of market, the answer to your question is glaringly obvious. I candy wins each and every time. Why else the continual change to the look of things? They want you to buy more and more because it looks different and it looks cool. Never mind whether it works well or not. Mary

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Well, actually, with my 2008 mac mini, which I can't upgrade past Lion, this is still possible. It works fine with an adapter hanging out where a monitor would be connected. But I think somewhere after that, it may have stopped being possible to do that at least from what I hear. I also still ha

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Mike Arrigo
I have actually heard that one adapter does work, I think it's called the max headless. Basically, it's designed to be connected to an HDMI port on a computer such as a server that is accessed remotely. Video cards will not enable high definition unless they think an HD monitor is connected to

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Ray Foret Jr
OH I quite agree. The only thing I saw of any substance coming out of this was the going down by $100.00 of the Mac mini. I'm guessing this is a very base line model and that's okay: but, honestly, I really think they've just got to get back to what made them good to start with. What's more

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Ray Foret Jr
My point exactly. Give me hard drive speks, give me storage info, give me basic good relyable info: not all this eye candy crap. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I might wish to have it especially if I decide to get a base line Mac mini. Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Oct 16, 2

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Same here hence me acquiring a Macbook Pro. I wanted everything all in one, laptop style including CD/DVD RW drive. Sent from my laptop On 16/10/2014 20:52, Michael Marshall wrote: What is the point of getting a mac mini? I just cannot understand it. Each to their own but it just makes no se

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread John Panarese
Actually, there is. I've been using an adaptor since 2011 successfully. I can send the info to anyone who wants it. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFES

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Marshall
What is the point of getting a mac mini? I just cannot understand it. Each to their own but it just makes no sense to me. > On 17 Oct 2014, at 6:48 am, Rich Ring wrote: > > But, sadly, you still need a monitor, and don't tell me there's an adapter > you can buy that will solve the problem, back

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Marshall
Yes sir I stand corrected! > On 17 Oct 2014, at 6:45 am, John Panarese wrote: > > It's available now. Who said it had nothing to offer? > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macforthebl

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Rich Ring
But, sadly, you still need a monitor, and don't tell me there's an adapter you can buy that will solve the problem, back in 2009 I purchased 3 different adapters that were supposed to solve the monitor problem, none of them worked. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Ar

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Yes OS X Yosemite is out as a free upgrade to compatible Macs starting today. Sent from my laptop On 16/10/2014 20:40, Michael Marshall wrote: let me guess, nothing on the new mac OS? On 17 Oct 2014, at 6:18 am, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: I have no plans to upgrade the mini but as a lo

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread John Panarese
It's available now. Who said it had nothing to offer? Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Marshall
let me guess, nothing on the new mac OS? > On 17 Oct 2014, at 6:18 am, Christopher Hallsworth > wrote: > > I have no plans to upgrade the mini but as a loyal customer the presentation > looked good. So happy to see the new Mac Mini come down in price as well > starting at just $499, causing po

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Rich Ring
If you-ask me, it was a huge yawn. You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Hi, > > Did anybody else here get the impression that the Apple presentation seemed

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
The new iPads will include Touch ID so those who do not have an iPhone 5s or later can experience Touch ID with no long term commitment. I'm disapointed to see no word on the iPod Touch, not even an update or discontinuation. Sent from my laptop On 16/10/2014 20:02, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Hi,

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I have no plans to upgrade the mini but as a loyal customer the presentation looked good. So happy to see the new Mac Mini come down in price as well starting at just $499, causing potentially more new customers to join the ecosystem. Sent from my laptop On 16/10/2014 20:12, Sandi Jazmin Kru

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Sandi Jazmin Kruse
I am not agreeing there, i got my next Mini. On 10/16/14, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Hi, > > Did anybody else here get the impression that the Apple presentation seemed > to offer nothing that we would care about? > > Not even speks. > > > Sincerely, > the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy

Re: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread BobH.
Great visual stuff, nothing of obvious use to us. - Original Message - From: "Ray Foret Jr" To: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:02 PM Subject: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing Hi, Did anybody else here get the impression that the Apple presentation seemed to offer nothin

RE: Apple presentation seemed to offer nothing

2014-10-16 Thread Michael Malver
You might be interested in stereo iPad sound on the latest iPad. Did they say a new version of iWorks came out today? If so I wish they had spoken to what's new about it. Honestly, accept for a problem with VoiceOver and image placement, I'm very happy with the current pages. TO be fair though,