Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi, May I ask what format things if not in written form? appreciated, just want to insure I can access the content before downloading. Thanks, Karen On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote: Here is a link to all the classes that was based on Catalina: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ncda1k5dqhs

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Herbie Allen
Here is a link to all the classes that was based on Catalina: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ncda1k5dqhsg9b/AABTfPHDETm_BIJNX3maZf9ka?dl=1 The first few at least have some transcripts as well. I do still have a Mac running that OS and I will be able to answer questions. > On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:55,

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Janet Ingber
l M. wrote: > > MayI have that too, please? > Thanks! > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 1:46 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New to MacBook.

RE: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Fazil M.
MayI have that too, please? Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 1:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence. I

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Karen Lewellen
That is fine, so Long as they are correct, and in a file form. Its interesting, apple accessibility and I have enjoyed more than a few conversations about why they skipped the previously available documentation in stand alone form for Catalina. Karen On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Herbie Allen
I might be able to give you some old training material regarding Catalina, but most things are the same. Messages and calendar are vastly different, and mail has some minor changes and you may have a slightly different look with System preferences. > On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:36, Karen Lewellen w

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Karen Lewellen
may I ask how much this data connects with Catalina? Finding it personally frustrating, and would welcome a solid outside of the system itself resource. Or better still an in person teacher whom I am happy to pay. On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Janet Ingber wrote: Hi Devin, My book about the Mac

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread Janet Ingber
Hi Devin, My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the Big Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s the link: https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_se

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-08 Thread 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries
For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else? Devin Prater > On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer > wrote: > > thanks so very much to all who replied. > you’re supportive encouragements give me

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-06 Thread Marlene Kramer
thanks so very much to all who replied. you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better than the sense of dread I was developing. you all have been most helpful. I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in posting them. Best to all, Marlene. >

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-05 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands): https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236 On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote: Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac user for 12 year

RE: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-05 Thread Fazil M.
Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence. Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white polycarbon plastic MacBook runni

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-05 Thread bbsshawn via MacVisionaries
Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white polycarbon plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC the same day so I was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to learn the OS and I've

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-05 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
That’s probably true. Cheers, Donna > On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > > >> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me. I think >> it’s because there

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-04 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me. I think > it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t part of > Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav. Also, in my case, I’d b

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-04 Thread Herbie Allen
essage- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2022 4:56 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing > competence. > > You will find a lot of

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jason, I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me. I think it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t part of Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav. Also, in my case, I’d been a PC user for about twenty years. So there were a lot of things that

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-04 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
Hi Marlene, I just want to second Janet’s advice. I got my first Mac in 2009 about a month after getting the iPhone 3GS. There were a couple of months that I mostly just wanted to throw my Mac off the roof of a tall building and watch it shatter. Now, I love it. It just takes time, a lot of

RE: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread Fazil M.
May I have the Youtube link to the previous classes, please? Thanks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Herbie Allen Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2022 4:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
In addition to what others have suggested, there’s documentation available with Ctrl-Option-Question mark (i.e., the VoiceOver modifier key with question mark). I don’t know why this is so, but discussions on this list and elsewhere give me the impression that Windows users have a more difficult

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread Rollin Hippler
If you have access to an "Apple Magic Keyboard with Numeric Keypad" I've found that enabling the keypad commander provides an experience somewhat similar to JAWS. I've found the VoiceOver help function to be very helpful when learning the various VoiceOver key commands and key combinations.

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread Herbie Allen
You will find a lot of similarities to Windows and iOS depending on what you are doing. For example, the System Settings is similar to iOS while you have mail commands like Command R for reply similar to Windows. Are you interested in training materials? I can also recommend a training course bu

Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread Janet Ingber
Hi Marlene, Just take it slow. Do you still have your PC hooked up? I’ve written several books on the Mac operating systems. There’s also a tremendous amount of information on www.applevis.com. AppleVis is a great web site and Mac Visionaries is a great email list. No question is stupid. We’ve

New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing competence.

2022-12-03 Thread Marlene Kramer
hi listers, I am new to this list, and new to MacBook. I have transition from the PC/jaws approach. I have a MacBook, running Ventura. I have eight years of experience with the iOS version of voiceover, but I’m finding the MacBook version of voice over a little more challenging. I have made some