Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Michael Thurman
mine doesn't come up either if it crashes I have had to hard shut down hold power for a few secs and restart the machint to get it back On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes > up after about

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Chris Westbrook
Well I can answer the webkit thing. It's the engine safari uses to turn web pages into text on the screen, basically. You can download a nightly build at http://webkit.org. Then you run webkit instead of safari. It seems to work much better. On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:28 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote: > h

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread DJ Nezumi
hi to all. i was wondering what is this webkit thing? i've near heard of it. and also how do you send in your crash reports? thanks Liam Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash > reports I got today just to see if they can do so

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Just in case though, for those who get the crashes, I sent in my two crash reports I got today just to see if they can do something with it. It's happening a lot more in 10.6.4 than I care to count. At least, it is for me. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Hai Nguyen
I've found that after an alert message, VoiceOver does indeed freeze up even though the audio cues still work. The best way to regain control of VoiceOver is to press the escape key. Hope this helps. On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, clarence griffin wrote: > mine will freeze up when there is an al

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread clarence griffin
mine will freeze up when there is an alert. I then have to kill VO then bring it up again. Its kind of slow doing that, but it does come back, then I can read the alert. GF On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes us

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Chris Westbrook
I find this weird, cause I have experienced hardly any crashes using mail or adium. I had some with safari but since I updated webkit everything is cool. On Jun 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Courtney Currant wrote: > Hi, > Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. > Courtn

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Mary Otten
If voice over doesn't come up on its own after a crash, starting up the voice over practice guide with control option command f8 then exiting out of there will work pretty much every time here. Mary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, Mine won't come up either, and I have to restart. It's really annoying. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes > up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. > > Regard

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, That happens to me when I'm reading tweets and mail messages. It's really weird. You're not the only one. Courtney On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi guys, > > So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. > > Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent cra

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, They're usually in ~/library/logs/CrashReporter and library/logs/CrashReporter. They're all timestamped as well. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincin

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Søren Jensen
Where do I find the log entry? When my Vo crashes, it crashes completely and I can't get speech when pressing command f5. I've waited for more than a hour when listening to an audiobook to see if that helped, but I couldn't start VO again... It doesn't happen very often, but it have gone more wo

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Søren, I can restart speech when mine crashes by pressing VO-F5 4 times. However, these are the crashes that leave no trace. When VO crashes completely, it restarts itself and leaves a log entry. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: > My Voiceover also crash mo

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Yours literally won't come back up? Now that's even more strange. Mine comes up after about ten seconds or so and I'm fine on its own. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messeng

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Søren Jensen
My Voiceover also crash more often since I've upgraded to 10.6.4. Yesterday, VO crashed in Adium, where I was typing a longer message to a friend of mine. I typed the rest of the message, sended it, wrote to him that I lost my speech and needed to restart my computer. The most annoying thing is

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, I guess I'm better off, then. I have one report from today, reflecting the time it crashed as well. I guess I can at least send that off. I'd like to see it crash once more at least. It might make it easier to see if there's something similar between the occurrence of the crashes. Regards,

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nic, I have a few crash reports, but nothing like the number there should be to reflect the times that VO goes silent on me. The past week only shows about half a dozen crashes. Cheers, Anne On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Never mind that. Looking on th

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, In that case, you might want to try the latest Webkit engine from http://www.webkit.org A lot of those crashes are probably related to the engine itself, and it tends to fix a lot of them as that engine is up-to-date and continuously being patched. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Go

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Don't worry about restarting VoiceOver manually, though. VoiceOver will automatically relaunch itself when it crashes. It might be a good idea to check for VoiceOver crash logs in ~library/logs/CrashReporter and library/logs/CrashReporter. The first path refers to your user directory repre

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Cody Hurst
I've been seeing it a lot more so in safari not really else where. On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi guys, > > So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. > > Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with > VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one e

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Allison Manzino
Hi Nic, This has happened to me quite frequently as well. VO crashed yesterday during a podcast I was recording. It's quite annoying and it takes me a few presses of command F5 to get it going again. Allison On Jun 28, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi guys, > > So I wanted to p

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Never mind that. Looking on the volume itself and not just the user directory, I see a lot of VoiceOver crash reports. I take back my statement. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yaho

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Yeah, I was thinking the same now that I looked at it. Hmm. That one is going to be hard to explain to Apple in that case. regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 A

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Nic, I've been having this problem since OS X 10.6.3. However, it doesn't seem to be a VoiceOver crash as such since it doesn't create an entry in the crash log. When working in English, I don't even use a heavy-duty voice, I use Fred, but it still happens all the time. It's frustrating

Re: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
oups.com > Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 > > Hi guys, > > So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. > > Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with > VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one e

RE: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Dave Taylor
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4 Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing th

Frequent crashes of VoiceOver since the release of Mac OS X 10.6.4

2010-06-28 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi guys, So I wanted to pass this to you guys, too. Ever since the 10.6.4 update, I've been noticing frequent crashes with VoiceOver. I hope I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. It also seems to be random if you're being a casual observer, meaning that it happens in whichever applic