Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-06 Thread Scott Granados
Right now the public betas are El Capitan updates. Apple will almost certainly release a final release of El Capitan and then sometime in September we’ll see the next revision. I know in the public beta of IOS improvements in call routing are under way and smashing of other bugs, I’d assume we

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-06 Thread Devin Prater
Yep, I think they basically gave us El Cap with a few new voices and such, but maybe when the public beta hits, they’ll pull out all the stops. Sent from my Mac. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com > On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:48 PM, John Panarese wrote: > >Exactly. So they exist now. Now and October

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread John Panarese
Exactly. So they exist now. Now and October are a long way off. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AF

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I use gMail, well Google Apps for Education gMail, for my work with no issues. All Mail should be visible. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 5, 2016, at 14:32, matthew dyer wrote: Hi all. I have been using moos since lepord and rite now in elcapiton the only problem

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Matthew Dierckens
They could get fixed. It's only beta 2 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2016, at 18:01, Kevin Chao wrote: > > Breakages in El Capitan exist in Sierra >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:32 PM matthew dyer >> wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> >> I have been using moos since lepord and rite now in elcapiton the

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread E.T.
This is why we ought not to discuss beta software. Sierra is a couple away from release and what bugs may exist now may not end up in the final release. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 7/5/2016 3:01 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: Breakages in El

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Kevin Chao
Breakages in El Capitan exist in Sierra On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 1:32 PM matthew dyer wrote: > Hi all. > > > I have been using moos since lepord and rite now in elcapiton the only > problem I have is with how mail works with gmail. I find that mail just > doesn't sync with gmail as well. Any one

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread matthew dyer
Hi all. I have been using moos since lepord and rite now in elcapiton the only problem I have is with how mail works with gmail. I find that mail just doesn't sync with gmail as well. Any one know they best way to handle gmail with the mail app? Should the all mail be hidon or not in gmail

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
old Schmidt >> - Original Message - >> From: Devin Prater <mailto:d.pra...@me.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
hi Saqib, What exactly is happening when your Mail is freezing up. Keyboard not responsive? Mail saying "busy, busy" all the time? Focus lost? I'm not experiencing any Mail issues, so am attempting to assist. Really, there's no issues bug-wise with Mail as far as I'm aware, so this may be

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Tim Kilburn
s.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 12:25 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googleg

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Anne Robertson
<mailto:d.pra...@me.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Disappointed with Voiceover >> >> Well, all three operating systems have problems. Windows and Linux

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Saqib Hussain
Hi Martain. I’m beginning to agree with you! My keyboard always freezes up in the mail client and I’m surprised that I’m replying to this message without another major freeze. After talking to Apple support and resetting the machine 3 times! My only option is to go out and buy an ethernet cable

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Devin Prater
and they can't get content from the screan, guess who they call, yeah > the blind man > Because I can see what they can't! > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall > Sent

RE: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-05 Thread Simon Fogarty
n Because I can see what they can't! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, 5 July 2016 12:25 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Disappointed with Voiceover First, speaking as a mos

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Martin, I appreciate your point of view whereby you weren't just slamming without due diligence. A couple things to note, though, from a fairly strong Apple user. • Removing Favourites,does only take half a second in Safari on the Mac. If your Favourites bar is visible, navigate to the Fav

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Blee Blat
I'm not seeing any problems with that website unless it's with the ordering or sign in stuff. I didn't actually sign in or order but everything read ok with Safari on OS X. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or conc

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Arnold Schmidt
isionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Disappointed with Voiceover Well, all three operating systems have problems. Windows and Linux aren’t much better, just with Windows you get used to poor performance, and with Linux you have to do everythin

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Jessica Moss
I don’t take offence to that. Nothing out there is perfect, and there are always bugs with anything that have to be ironed out. I wasn’t verry impressed with IOS 8 when that first came out, but I think a lot of the sighted community weren’t either, and like you, I really have no faith that wh

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Jessica Moss
Not to worry, I haven’t read the original post yet, but I’m having that exact battle right now at my job I’m about to start at the ADA department in my area. I’m really looking forward to it, and one of the things I’ll be doing is testing various web sites for accessibility, but they want to us

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Alex Hall
First, speaking as a mostly happy Mac user, I want to say that I very much hope that offense is never taken by anyone to a message like yours. It wasn't "it's not Windows so I hate it and you're all stupid fanboys". It was respectfully written and gave some specific examples of the problems you

Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Devin Prater
Well, all three operating systems have problems. Windows and Linux aren’t much better, just with Windows you get used to poor performance, and with Linux you have to do everything yourself. Sent from my Mac. Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com > On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:13 AM, Martin Brown wrote: > >

Disappointed with Voiceover

2016-07-04 Thread Martin Brown
My first encounter with Voiceover was back in the Snow Leopard days, and boy was I impressed with the level of commitment by Apple to its screen reader. It was back then I was enthusiastic about learning as much as I could about this very different way of accessing a computer. It was quite a strugg