Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-03 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi ET, How about setting up a vo activity for your financial app? I've done this in pro tools and it helps much. :) It would be nice just to have vo say minus or negative with out all the other verbosity stuff though. Talk soon Chuck On Oct 3, 2016, at 2:51 PM, E.T. wrote: > What led me to sta

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-03 Thread E.T.
What led me to start this topic is that I noticed some shortcomings in Checkbook Pro. When I knew there were some entries with negative numbers, I was not hearing the indicator. So I changed the punctuation verbosity level from some to most and VO then spoke those entries with 'dash'. S

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-03 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, You could also set up a keyboard shortcut for this. If you open the Emoji & Symbols dialog with cmd-ctrl-space, enter a dash in the Search field, then you should be able to locate the Math symbol for "⁻" (minus). Now, in the Text tab of the Keyboard System Preferences, create a substituti

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-02 Thread E.T.
Ahh just like the alt key in Windows. Thanks for this. I will find the list of those codes This will be useful. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 10/2/2016 11:53 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: Well, UNICODE 2122 is apparently the minus sign. Not

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-02 Thread Blee Blat
Fascinating. You just gave us a new toy. Thank you! -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-10-02 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, UNICODE 2122 is apparently the minus sign. Not only is there a minus sign but a special one for making negative numbers as opposed to positive numbers. There is some way in the international or keyboard settings to input UNICODE minus as option held down while typing 2212. Also, if you go

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-30 Thread E.T.
This I want to find out as well. I may be too picky but I think its worth the effort to find out. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/30/2016 4:51 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: I'm sure there is a code for -. I wonder what would happen if you

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-30 Thread E.T.
Thanks, that was easy. Now though comes attempts to find a balance between some punctuation or most punctuation. Set to some, VO will not speak the minus. Set to most, it will but also will read hyphen in other areas. Is it possible to do finer tweaking of this? And back in the pronuncia

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-30 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
I'm sure there is a code for -. I wonder what would happen if you type it in Nemeth math. Or perhaps we can find the unicode code online? What does ww.demos.com calculator say and proeuce? Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 30, 2016, at 5:01 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > > The dash and the

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-30 Thread David Chittenden
The dash and the minus are two names for the same symbol. It is the same as number sign, pound, and hash for the specific symbol.. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 30/09/2016, at 17:51, E.T. wrote: > > That should work

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-29 Thread michael babcock
I don’t think there is a way to type it differently, but maybe :) always stand to be corrected. you can set in the drop down of the third column of that table an app if you want VO to handle that Pronunciation globally or within one app. > On Sep 29, 2016, at 9:51 PM, E.T. wrote: > > That s

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-29 Thread E.T.
That should work but that would be global wouldn't it? Normally pne would not notice a difference in print but using Voiceover, when numbers are involved, dash would not do. And when not using numbers, minus would not be good. So I am curious if there is an actual difference in typing th

Re: Dash vs Minus

2016-09-29 Thread michael babcock
go to the VO utility Select “Speech”, then “Pronunciation”. Click add, and put a “-“ in place for the “text” and “minus” in place for the Substitution note, i had to press “vo+Space” on the “Substitution” color in the table then type the word “minus” using voiceover 7 in OS X 10.12. hope that hel

Dash vs Minus

2016-09-29 Thread E.T.
Can one type a minus character so that Voiceover speaks 'minus' and not 'dash'? From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns abo