Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Yes, this is absolutely not just an interesting and novel project to do for the fun of it though you could enjoy that too if you like a challenge! Tracking and using braille in terminal, at least for me, works way better with brltty than with voiceover's braille. Plus you don't get all those lin

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Alex, VO works ok with the shell, but once you start using applications like Alpine for mail and text web browsers, VO HAS some pretty awkward tracking issues. Brtty is specifically designed to work with a terminal and does a wonerful job of it. It's the only screen reader I know of that us

Re: hearing and speakers, headphones, TV, monitor, what? Help, please!

2014-01-15 Thread Daniel Hawkins
I would have a headset or speakers plugged it as backup. You can go under VO utilties and control what output VO can come out. For example, If you are watching a movie on your tv, you can just hear VO on your headphone. Just an idea. Also there is a way to mute VO speech too for trackpad usage y

Re: selecting multiple lines of text

2014-01-15 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Make sure the Line command is selected first, not character or word or any other. Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit On Jan 15, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > cmd-

Teamspeak3 accessibility

2014-01-15 Thread Phil Halton
I received an invite to a chat room using the TeamSpeak3 client. I see that there is a Mac version and am wondering if its accessible with VO? I also have a Windows VM and am pretty sure I can use the TeamSpeak windows client with no problem. But, I'd like to give it a try on the mac if possible

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
but controling what just he or she send to you, because i do have hard time recognizing what they said? On 16 Jan 2014, at 12:12 am, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi! > This is what I do when chatting! > 1, go to the chat grid and arrow through until I get to the end of the last > message! > 2, Then I

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
Sorry, but why build Brltty for the mac? Voiceover has extensive braille support, and it is the only screen reader available for the Mac to my knowledge. There may be edge cases where independent braille output would be helpful, but I can't think of any. Aside from the fun of the project itself

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You definitely need to use screen-4.0.1 and that still can be compiled and still does work and still is available but you have to get the source and compile it. You need this because you have to use the brltty patches with it. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpl

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Shawn AKA BBS
Hi Andrew and others. There is an easier way to have incoming messages read out to you in Skype. If you purchase Growl, you can configure it to speak alerts for various applications such as Skype. The only catch is that you can't be in the chat window. Just command+Tab to somewhere else and the

Re: hearing and speakers, headphones, TV, monitor, what? Help, please!

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Moore
I have a mini hooked up to a monitor with a separate speakers plugged into the jack on the mini. This allows me to control the volume with either the knob on the speakers or the software volume control. Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVi

Re: Cannot find in menu so don't see my posts

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Moore
Some of the mailing lists including this one send a copy of your message back to you automatically. Chris On Jan 15, 2014, at 5:35 PM, regina alvarado wrote: > After this question, I won’t bother anyone here again today. (smiles) I > have, thanks to everyone here, been through all the mail pre

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi Listers, I think the question is to do with how you read AIM messages while you are on the call or when you hear some message has arrived. I've never found a way of doing it other than after I finish the call which allows me then to choose the particular contact I have just been talking to

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Alex, Tim and Chris, How do you uninstall Soundflower? I too have it in my system preferences under the sound section but I don't need it and somehow sometimes I get a problem in that my audio routes itself through it and I lose Voiceover. It caused me a bit of a headache so I would be glad to

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Moore
Cheryl, Thanks for revisiting this. I think your original post was in 2006: much has changed since then, especially on the mac side. I found an article on building bratty for bad . They mentioned an SHM flavor of screen which we may need to look into. Once your start the screen, they mention

Re: mail question

2014-01-15 Thread Andrew Lamanche
Hi Gigi, How do you find the window where you can see your previous contacts? I, too, would like to remove some old contacts that are no longer relevant but could never find the way. Thanks very much Andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVi

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-15 Thread Sean Murphy
All. The purchased version of Window-eyes gives you the below: As per the FAQs located at http://www.windoweyesforoffice.com/FAQ/ There are a number of additional benefits offered by GW Micro when purchasing the retail version of Window-Eyes: • Free technical support with an unlimited number of

installing vinux on bootcamp?

2014-01-15 Thread Devin Prater
Have, all, was wondering if it'd be possible to install another operating system, like Vinux or Ubuntu, onto the mac with bootcamp? Sent from my braille plus 18 regina alvarado wrote: >After this question, I won’t bother anyone here again today. (smiles) I have, >thanks to everyone here, been

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-15 Thread Sean Murphy
Very interesting. If it does work in the manner people are outlining. Then Microsoft have killed their own inbuilt screen reader, FS have a real major challenge in front of them and NVDA could stay around with the loyal support. This means those people who are using NVDA must really be very supp

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-15 Thread Brent Harding
No, as I understand it, Window-eyes works as it normally does with every program, just requiring that Office be on the system. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen re

Re: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-15 Thread Brent Harding
I could see it working out well in schools and for employment, unless this offer is only for individuals for personal use, kind of like System Access to Go. The big question of the day is, now that GW won't be getting nearly as many full-price copies sold, what will become of them as a company s

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi! This is what I do when chatting! 1, go to the chat grid and arrow through until I get to the end of the last message! 2, Then I turn off cursor tracking with the command VO+shift+f3 [add FN if needed] 3, Now all I need do is just start typing to make my reply and press enter when done! 4, ju

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Instant message is a bit like I messages on the Mac. You have an HTML area and an edit area. You move in between the two with VO left and VO right arrow respectively. Kawal. On 15 Jan 2014, at 21:05, Hope Paulos wrote: > How do you read IMs in Skype? > > Hope Paulos > >> On Jan 15, 2014, a

Cannot find in menu so don't see my posts

2014-01-15 Thread regina alvarado
After this question, I won’t bother anyone here again today. (smiles) I have, thanks to everyone here, been through all the mail preferences in the menu. Unless I am not recognizing the words, however, there is no place to get mail to stop sending my mail back to me. Is there anywhere else to l

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Cheryl Homiak
You need to use screen-4.0.1 and there are also patches you have to apply which are contained in the brltty source which you must download using subversion. I will really try to update the instructions I wrote several years ago and post them in the next few days. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to

hearing and speakers, headphones, TV, monitor, what? Help, please!

2014-01-15 Thread regina alvarado
I need some serious help! Currently I am hooked to my TV but could use a monitor. Right now I am being driven mad. my TV sound was blaring. When I used the TV remote to turn down the TV, it made VO so I absolutely could not hear it. How do I set up to make the 2 entities, Mini and TV work separ

Re: brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Blouch
This has come up before. Here was the last answer I could find: https://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/msg95537.html CB On 1/15/14 3:24 PM, Chris Moore wrote: Hello, I’m looking at building brltty on the mac. The first problem is compiling a version of screen with share

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
i interact with my message on the skype by turning on the quick nav then pressing up down and right arrow key On 15 Jan 2014, at 10:05 pm, Hope Paulos wrote: > How do you read IMs in Skype? > > Hope Paulos > >> On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >> You do not need Scripts

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
actually i know that, but navigating is so difficult because everytime i chat i have to go to the grid to navigate again turnback on the typing bar again. On 15 Jan 2014, at 09:57 pm, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > You do not need Scripts for Skype. > > So when you open Skype, do you land on your con

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Hope Paulos
How do you read IMs in Skype? Hope Paulos > On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > You do not need Scripts for Skype. > > So when you open Skype, do you land on your contact list? > > If you do, if you know how to interact, VO right arrow to get to your > contacts and then i

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Jessica D
no, voiceover reads anything and everything, no scripts needed. not even apple scripts. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > > can anyone explain to me how to use the skype very well because i do have a > hard time using it. in the jaws, i us

Re: using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
You do not need Scripts for Skype. So when you open Skype, do you land on your contact list? If you do, if you know how to interact, VO right arrow to get to your contacts and then interact with the list of contacts. If you chose that contact, Shift Vo M for context menu and vo down arrow to c

using skype

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
can anyone explain to me how to use the skype very well because i do have a hard time using it. in the jaws, i use the script to immediately read the message when i press the alt + left or right arrow,. do i need also a script for skype here in mac book? -- You received this message because yo

Re: selecting multiple lines of text

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, cmd-shift-up selects from cursor position to the beginning of the document cmd-shift-down selects from cursor position to the end of the document cmd-shift-left selects from cursor position to the beginning of the line cmd-shift-right selects from cursor position to the end of the line Option

Re: using the garage band

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
ok, thanks! i hope the apple could fix this one On 15 Jan 2014, at 04:22 pm, Phil Halton wrote: > I don't believe the tutorials are accessible on GarageBand. Best look around > for another "learn to play" course/app/program. GB is a good audio editor, in > my opinion, but not all that great for

Re: quick navigation not working as expected

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
ok, here is the step by step procedure, if you have fn included on you keyboard press fn + ctrl + option + f8 > go to the commander > click the quick nav then youll see the list of check mark on it then enable quick nav on. yes you have to turn off the quick nav to type on the web On 15 Jan 2014

Re: selecting multiple lines of text

2014-01-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Try shift-down-arrow to select a line at a time, command-shift-down-arrow to select from the cursor to the end of the text, and command-shift-up-arrrow to select from the cursor to the beginning of the text. HtH, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Chris Mo

brltty on mac

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Moore
Hello, I’m looking at building brltty on the mac. The first problem is compiling a version of screen with shared memory. I don’t think the version which comes with the os in /usr/bin supports shared memory . I installed the version of screen from macports, but don’t think the result is any be

selecting multiple lines of text

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Moore
Hello, How do I select multiple lines of text? cmdi _ shift + right selects one line. What about selecting the next ten lines? TIA Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emai

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, I tried it. I removed Soundflower and ran a permissions repair, just in case. So far, emails seem to open immediately, and apps, while still slower to launch than even a Lion machine, are faster than they were. Hopefully this will do the trick. Thanks for your help, everyone. On Jan 15, 20

Re: mail question

2014-01-15 Thread Eugenia Firth
Thanks Ray. Looks like it worked fine. I can't believe I didn't figure that out before. I guess it didn't annoy me enough before. Regards, Gigi On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > You want to open the window menu and from there, go in to the table of > previous recipients. f

Re: mail question

2014-01-15 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Wow Thanks Ray. I never knew about this window. I was wondering about this myself. You learn something every day. Lisette On 16/01/2014, at 7:49 am, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > You want to open the window menu and from there, go in to the table of > previous recipients. from there, find the receip

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks guys. I'll remove Soundflower, though I hate to as it is how I record my microphone and system audio simultaneously. Still, if it is the problem, I might look into a better solution like VAC or wait until someone fixes Soundflower. On Jan 15, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi,

Re: mail question

2014-01-15 Thread Ray Foret Jr
You want to open the window menu and from there, go in to the table of previous recipients. from there, find the receipient you no longer wish and mash the delete key. HTH. Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefoot

mail question

2014-01-15 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys How do you get rid of old email addresses? I have a contact that is no longer using one of her email addresses, and every time I type in her name the old one is the first one that comes up. I went into contacts, and I thought I had done the button that says delete email address. I typed

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Good job on researching Chris. It sounds to me from this that it is a bigger issue than just for us using VO. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jan 15, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > There are discussions of high CPU usage of the coreaudio process when > Soundflo

Re: Does Anyone Else Have to Restart Mail Periodically to Get New Messages?

2014-01-15 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. I have this problem more than 1 time a day. I do not know if there is a way to solve it. I can not set mine to automatically because hostgator does not allow push. Best regards Annie. Den 14 Jan 2014 kl. 19:12 skrev Teresa Cochran : > Hi, guys, > > I’ve noticed that sometimes Mail goes in

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Chris Blouch
There are discussions of high CPU usage of the coreaudio process when Soundflower runs into issues here: https://discussions.apple.com/message/23643199#23643199 Might want to try uninstalling it and see if that resolves the issue. Seems that the tool has gone dormant with the last update to th

Found a Keystroke, Was Re: Removing the topsites menu bar

2014-01-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi. A further note to this thread: i found a keystroke accidentally for toggling the Top sites bar. It’s command-option-1. I hadn’t found it before, because it’s in the history menu, and I was looking in the view menu. htH, Teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Jan 13, 2014

Re: Possible cause of Mac's sluggishness: coreaudiod

2014-01-15 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Alex, The amount of Virtual memory sounds to be about normal. The CPU usage is very high though for that. I’m guessing that the Mini just doesn’t have the processing power and coupled with only 4 GB of RAM, you may have found the culprit. If you have an external drive that you could insta

Re: Moving through tabs and Closing them in Mavericks Safari

2014-01-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, folks, I like to use tabs, because everything stays in the same window. I don’t like a lot of windows cluttering things up. You can switch between tabs in Safari with control-tab. Once you’re focussed on a tab, you can close it with command-w. Sometimes VO says “closing all windows”, especi

Re: Moving through tabs and Closing them in Mavericks Safari

2014-01-15 Thread Jessica D
I usually use tabs to do multiple things in safari. I use new windows when viewing pictures online. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Regina Alvarado > wrote: > > Bringing up questions and more questions. Have Mini to always open in tab, > but what is the difference between

Re: using the garage band

2014-01-15 Thread David tanner
There is a beginning basic tutorial podcast on Apple Vis that was done not too long ago that seems to be a very good place to start. Sent from my iPod > On Jan 15, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > I don't believe the tutorials are accessible on GarageBand. Best look around > for anoth

Re: using the garage band

2014-01-15 Thread Phil Halton
I don't believe the tutorials are accessible on GarageBand. Best look around for another "learn to play" course/app/program. GB is a good audio editor, in my opinion, but not all that great for anything more. On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: > is anyone here using

Re: Maverick tutorial

2014-01-15 Thread mário navarro
take a look here: http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast494.mp3 Em 15/01/2014 14:59, Alex Hall escreveu: The main differences in Mavericks are iBooks and Maps, plus new Voiceover voices. Of course, there are other changes, but they are not visible (better batt

Re: vo+w spelling

2014-01-15 Thread Phil Halton
To change the rate of speech, press VO+Command and right and left arrows until you hear "rate". Then use VO+Command + up or down arrow to increase or decrease the rate of speech. On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote: > Hi > > How do i set the speech rate slower when pressing vo+

Re: Maverick tutorial

2014-01-15 Thread mário navarro
yes. here. http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast494.mp3 cheers. Em 15/01/2014 13:23, Craig J Dunlop escreveu: I know in the past I have used podcasts from vision Australia on different versions of the operating system for the Mac. I have had a hard time finding

Re: quick navigation not working as expected

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
Open Voiceover Utility with vn-f8, arrow down to Commanders, and vo-right to the Quicknav tab. Vo-space to activate it, then vo-right to "Allow single-key navigation in web pages" and be sure that is checked. You can also go to "assign commands" to change the default key assignments if you want

Re: Maverick tutorial

2014-01-15 Thread Alex Hall
The main differences in Mavericks are iBooks and Maps, plus new Voiceover voices. Of course, there are other changes, but they are not visible (better battery/memory management) or very easy to figure out (tabs in Finder). Most people seem to agree that iBooks is not very usable at present, and

Re: Moving through tabs and Closing them in Mavericks Safari

2014-01-15 Thread Regina Alvarado
Bringing up questions and more questions. Have Mini to always open in tab, but what is the difference between a tab and a new page? Is one better with mac? Thanks again for the help and patience with a newby Mini user. reggie and Allegra On Jan 13, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera

Re: quick navigation not working as expected

2014-01-15 Thread Regina Alvarado
Please explain further. I tried to follow the australian podcast to get one-letter navigation on, but apparently I did something wrong. What would this setting let me do, and if I need to type something do I have to turn quick nav off. Thanks. reggie and Allegra On Jan 15, 2014, at 4:06 AM,

Re: Maverick tutorial

2014-01-15 Thread Regina Alvarado
I used these extensively. Everything talked about was there in Mavericks. They even say that it is for Mountain Lion but can transfer over to Mavericks. Hope this gives some assurance. reggie and Allegra On Jan 15, 2014, at 8:23 AM, Craig J Dunlop wrote: I know in the past I have used podcas

using the garage band

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
is anyone here using garage band? because i want to learn how to play piano. i already have the cable connected to my piano, the problem is on the garage band, i can see the play and the other tutorials i’ve downloaded. what should i do with this one? -- You received this message because you a

RE: Looks like Windows is also heading toward full screen reader built in

2014-01-15 Thread Bill Holton
My guess is they are not giving it away, MS is paying them to distribute it. A bit of a difference. "Giving it away" means no revenue, no money to pay developers. My guess is now they have more money for developers. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macv

Maverick tutorial

2014-01-15 Thread Craig J Dunlop
I know in the past I have used podcasts from vision Australia on different versions of the operating system for the Mac. I have had a hard time finding any from vision Australia for Maverick. Does anyone know if they are available? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you

Re: Nicecast Broadcast Software

2014-01-15 Thread Faith Girvan
Hello all! To answer your Nicecast question, you do the following: 1. Open up the server information window. You should see a built in server there. 2. If you can see, there is a plus, so you can add a new server. Not sure how to do it using VoiceOver just yet. 3. Once you open the add new server

BlueTooth Question

2014-01-15 Thread David Taylor
Hi, I’ve got my old Macbook Air working again while my newer one is away. I was surprised to find that my BT keyboard was already connected to it, despite it having been restored, it must be because they both have the same device name or something. However, I find that when I leave the Mac for

Re: quick navigation not working as expected

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
go to the voice over utility the click commander> quick nav > enable single key navigation On 15 Jan 2014, at 12:28 am, Alex Hall wrote: > Check in the VO Uitlity under Commanders . Quicknav. Be sure all the letters > you use are enabled and set correctly. > On Jan 14, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Jessic

Re: Moving through tabs and Closing them in Mavericks Safari

2014-01-15 Thread Dionipher Presas Herrera
it was so trance, i have to go to the heading first then i have to scroll left and right to go back to the link On 14 Jan 2014, at 06:35 pm, Chris Blouch wrote: > So command+enter on the link doesn't open it in a new tab? For the links I > tried that seemed to work. The contextual menu should w