Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-29 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 17:32, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Sorry, I have no idea what standard processes Macports adheres to. I > assume there's something in place (other than, "It compiles on my Mac > Intel, ship it"). Just to make sure we're not inadvertently misrepresenting what we provide, "it co

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Sorry, I have no idea what standard processes Macports adheres to. Yet, you claimed that because of "audit requirements" MacPorts must distribute patches to any software you install via the port command. >> Please explain what the enforcement

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread John Chivian
The maintainers of MacPorts cannot and should not be expected to maintain and fix bugs in projects!  That is the job of the project maintainer, not the team that voluntarily provides ports of the open source software. If you want the ability to audit software control and accountability, so th

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 6:13 PM Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> It's also super-silly to expect that MacPorts is taking "responsibility" > >> for all upstream projects. > > > > How so? > > > > It is a standard audit item. > > please cite what "st

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 5:41 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> It's also super-silly to expect that MacPorts is taking "responsibility" for >> all upstream projects. > > How so? > > It is a standard audit item. please cite what "standard" you believe you are auditing MacPorts under. Please explain wha

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:33 PM Daniel J. Luke wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > >>> ... > >>> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please ta

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Aug 24, 2020, at 3:49 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >>> ... >>> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up >>> with the developers of PyObjC. >> >> Macports is res

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:27, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> ... >> If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up >> with the developers of PyObjC. > > Macports is responsible for the code it distributes. It is called > "

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > ... > If you believe PyObjC should do something differently, please take it up with > the developers of PyObjC. Macports is responsible for the code it distributes. It is called "supply chain management". Jeff

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 13:15, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > The pull request was accepted by the developers and included in PyObjC 6.2.1, > though I see that it was modified slightly: > > https://github.com/ronaldoussoren/pyobjc/commit/76b4bb2d76d33961821c6cc0d88c7031c62805c2 > > I'm not familiar with

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 10:36, Jeffrey Waltonwrote: > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:59 AM Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> >> ... >>> Logical CPU: 2 >>> Error Code: 0x0007 (invalid protections for user data read) >>> Trap Number: 14 >>> ==cut= >>> >>> do you see the pro

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread joerg van den hoff
I just want to confirm that the reported problem (bus error) has gone away with ryan's fix. a big thank you for that (even if the fix might not be the last word as I understand from jeffrey walton's comment). br/joerg On 24.08.20 11:58, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Aug 24, 2020, at 03:34, joerg v

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 5:59 AM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > ... > > Logical CPU: 2 > > Error Code: 0x0007 (invalid protections for user data read) > > Trap Number: 14 > > ==cut= > > > > do you see the problem? I don't :| > > Fixed! > > https://github.com/macpo

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Aug 24, 2020, at 03:34, joerg van den hoff wrote: > On 23.08.20 21:45, Joshua Root wrote: >> joerg van den hoff wrote: >>> seen with current macports and >>> >>> Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) >>> [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin >>> >

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread Joshua Root
On 2020-8-24 18:34 , joerg van den hoff wrote: > > thanks for this suggestion. I have had a look and cannot make sufficient > sense of it. here is the leading section with the traceback: > do you see the problem? I don't :| Well, I don't know why it's crashing, but it's crashing in _objc.so whi

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-24 Thread joerg van den hoff
On 23.08.20 21:45, Joshua Root wrote: joerg van den hoff wrote: seen with current macports and Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin I get a reproducible bus error when trying to get a list of known modules wi

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Root
joerg van den hoff wrote: > seen with current macports and > > Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) > [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin > > I get a reproducible bus error when trying to get a list of known modules > > with `help("modules"). > > /u

Re: python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-23 Thread Kurt Hindenburg
On 8/23/20 7:19 AM, joerg van den hoff wrote: seen with current macports and Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin I get a reproducible bus error when trying to get a list of known modules with `help("modules").

python2.7 throws bus error when issuing `help("modules")'

2020-08-23 Thread joerg van den hoff
seen with current macports and Python 2.7.18 (default, Apr 22 2020, 05:03:29) [GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Apple LLVM 11.0.3 (clang-1103.0.32.29)] on darwin I get a reproducible bus error when trying to get a list of known modules with `help("modules"). /usr/bin/python (which is 2.7.16) does not do t