Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-17 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Off topic :) Ken Cunningham wrote: To get reasonable performance out of these machines I always max out the Ram (cheap cheap cheap on Ebay) and in most of them, flip in an SSD. I tried outting a SSD in mine, but it run hiccups... so I bought a new spinning rust HD and that one works fine. Sti

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-17 Thread Chris Jones
On 17/01/18 16:59, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, Chris Jones wrote: many reasons. For instance security. In my view users should always migrate their machines to the most up to date OS they can run, one that is still receiving security updates, in order to not expose themselves to possible is

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-17 Thread Chris Jones
On 17/01/18 17:31, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:59, Riccardo Mottola wrote: However 10.5 runs considerably faster on 32bit macs.s and those who cannot take 4GB of RAM. My own experience I see; I hadn't heard that feedback before. According to Apple, 10.6 focused not on new f

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-17 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:59, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > However 10.5 runs considerably faster on 32bit macs.s and those who cannot > take 4GB of RAM. My own experience I see; I hadn't heard that feedback before. According to Apple, 10.6 focused not on new features but on performance, so it should

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-17 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi, Chris Jones wrote: many reasons. For instance security. In my view users should always migrate their machines to the most up to date OS they can run, one that is still receiving security updates, in order to not expose themselves to possible issues. 10.5 for sure hasn't received any secur

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 16 06:16:07, ken.cunningham.web...@gmail.com wrote: > > I am stuck with 10.5.8 on this particular machine anyway. > > Are you sure about that? Even my most ancient intel machines, 32bit, can go > up past there. > even a macbook 1,1 can do 10.6.8 > https://everymac.com/systems/apple/macboo

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Ken Cunningham
On 2018-01-16, at 6:24 AM, Marius Schamschula wrote: > > I just checked: a Core Duo is limited to 10.5.8 only if it has less than 1GB > of RAM, but can run 10.6.8 otherwise. > > Marius To get reasonable performance out of these machines I always max out the Ram (cheap cheap cheap on Ebay) and

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Marius Schamschula
> On Jan 16, 2018, at 8:16 AM, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:22 AM, Jan Stary wrote: >> >> On Jan 16 09:49:32, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > I find it useful to have a ppc builder available to have at least some > feedback about problems on that platform

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Ken Cunningham
> On Jan 16, 2018, at 6:16 AM, Ken Cunningham > wrote: > > > >> On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:22 AM, Jan Stary wrote: >> >> On Jan 16 09:49:32, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > I find it useful to have a ppc builder available to have at least some > feedback about problems on that platfor

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Ken Cunningham
> On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:22 AM, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Jan 16 09:49:32, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: I find it useful to have a ppc builder available to have at least some feedback about problems on that platform, but also because any PPC machine is super slow and MacPorts is

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 16 09:49:32, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > > > I find it useful to have a ppc builder available to have at least some > > > feedback about problems on that platform, but also because any PPC > > > machine is super slow and MacPorts is often the most important part > > > that actually mak

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 16 January 2018 at 10:16, Jan Stary wrote: > > What is the proportion of the (would be) 10.5.8 packages to the overal size? > (No doubt it's a lot of space, but what portion of it is one platform?) Approximately one divided by the number of platforms. The proportion can drop if many packages fa

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Chris Jones
On 16/01/18 09:55, Jan Stary wrote: The reasons for not having a 10.5 Intel builder are that no users should need it (all users on 10.5 Intel should upgrade to 10.6) Why? many reasons. For instance security. In my view users should always migrate their machines to the most up to date OS the

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Jan Stary
> > > The reasons for not having a 10.5 Intel builder are that > > > no users should need it (all users on 10.5 Intel should upgrade to 10.6) > > > > Why? > > many reasons. For instance security. In my view users should always migrate > their machines to the most up to date OS they can run, Some

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Chris Jones
On 16/01/18 09:14, Jan Stary wrote: On Jan 14 21:47:43, mo...@macports.org wrote: On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should update at least to 10.6... the 10.5 buildbot exi

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Chris Jones
On 16/01/18 09:16, Jan Stary wrote: On Jan 15 22:33:56, ryandes...@macports.org wrote: On Jan 14, 2018, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, yo

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 15 22:33:56, ryandes...@macports.org wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2018, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: > >> > >> A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel > >> > >> The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should > >>

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 14 21:47:43, mo...@macports.org wrote: > On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: > > > > A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel > > > > The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should > > update at least to 10.6... the 10.5 buildbot exists because that is th

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-15 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 16 January 2018 at 05:33, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > The reasons for not having a 10.5 Intel builder are that no users should need > it (all users on 10.5 Intel should upgrade to 10.6) and the packages it would > create would take up disk space on all mirrors; we have already had one > MacPorts

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-15 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Jan 14, 2018, at 14:47, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: >> >> A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel >> >> The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should >> update at least to 10.6... the 10.5 buildbot exists because that is

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-14 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On 14 January 2018 at 11:40, Chris Jones wrote: > > A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel > > The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should > update at least to 10.6... the 10.5 buildbot exists because that is the last > OS supporting PPC machines. There is no special

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-14 Thread Riccardo Mottola via macports-users
Hi Jan, Jan Stary wrote: PPC or Intel ? A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel Ah, right, my machine is Intel. Thanks. most stuff works fine on 10.5 and I an happy with that OS which is faster than 10.6 if you have 32bit intel CPUs (if you have 64bit, indeed, 10.6 is a recommendable updat

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-14 Thread Jan Stary
On Jan 14 10:40:23, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: > PPC or Intel ? > A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel Ah, right, my machine is Intel. Thanks. Jan

Re: binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-14 Thread Chris Jones
PPC or Intel ? A buildbot exists for PPC, but not intel https://build.macports.org/waterfall The assumption I believe being if you have an intel machine, you should update at least to 10.6... the 10.5 buildbot exists because that is the last OS supporting PPC machines. Chris > On 14 Jan 201

binary packages for 10.5.8

2018-01-14 Thread Jan Stary
How far back are the MacOS releases supported with binary packages? I am currently installing SoX on 10.5.8, and it seems each and every dependency (including apple-gcc42 for some reason) has to be built form source. Jan