Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Mar 7, 2021, at 8:30 PM, Todd Doucet wrote: > I think one can only get so far with purely qualitative analysis of the > characteristics of SSDs and HDs and then the end of that analysis will be > one-size-fits all advice, for example "recommended" or "not recommended" for > servers. this +1

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Peter West
I’ve been looking at VPS providers, and most of them offer SSD-based VPSs, so they seem to be increasingly popular. I suspect that most VPSs do not get consistently hammered, though. Peter — p...@ehealth.id.au “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” > On 8 Mar 2021, at 11:3

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Todd Doucet
I think one can only get so far with purely qualitative analysis of the characteristics of SSDs and HDs and then the end of that analysis will be one-size-fits all advice, for example "recommended" or "not recommended" for servers. Surely the answer might vary depending on the particular server

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Dave C via macports-users
To emphasize again, the reason SSDs aren’t recommended for servers is because servers—by definition—see much heavier service, and these read/write cycles are used up more quickly. For personal use in a PC, or such, SSDs are proving to be the dream they were promised to be. As mentioned, given

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread John Chivian
The “on/off” switches in SSD’s are fragile and essentially break after too many read/write cycles. As pointed out, it’s a get what you pay for world and cheap SSD’s are just that… cheap. The expensive ones are more reliable because they actually make available only a portion of their total ca

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Michael A. Leonetti via macports-users
I’d really love to know more about what you’re saying here. Up until I just read what you wrote, I thought SSDs were the savior of HDDs. Michael A. Leonetti As warm as green tea > 3/7/21 午後5:26、Dave Horsfall のメール: > > On Sat, 6 Mar 2021, Dave C via macports-users wrote: > >> Isn’t SSD a bad c

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Dave Horsfall
On Sat, 6 Mar 2021, Dave C via macports-users wrote: Isn’t SSD a bad choice for server duty? No server farms use them, apparently due to short lifespan. If you knew how SSDs worked then you wouldn't use them at all without many backups. Give me spinning rust any day... -- Dave

Re: Warning: cltversion again

2021-03-07 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, > On 7 Mar 2021, at 6:18 pm, Fielding, Eric J (US 329A) via macports-users > wrote: > >  > I am getting this warning again from running ‘port upgrade outdated’: > > Warning: cltversion: The Command Line Tools are installed, but MacPorts > cannot determine the version. > Warning: cltvers

Warning: cltversion again

2021-03-07 Thread Fielding, Eric J (US 329A) via macports-users
I am getting this warning again from running ‘port upgrade outdated’: Warning: cltversion: The Command Line Tools are installed, but MacPorts cannot determine the version. Warning: cltversion: For a possible fix, please see: https://trac.macports.org/wiki/ProblemHotlist#reinstall-clt I recently

Re: Build servers offline due to failed SSD

2021-03-07 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Mar 7, 2021, at 00:20, Dave C wrote: > Isn’t SSD a bad choice for server duty? My opinion is that it is a good choice in terms of performance. When I first up this incarnation of our buildbot system in 2016 I had the workers running on SSDs so that builds would be fast (our previous build