I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Omar Green
Hi all: Total n00b to macports here, but I'm having problems using macports to install Ruby-on-Rails on an Intel MacBook Pro, and I think I've managed to track the problem down. Didn't want to post a bug to the bug list without verifying that I'm not just imagining things. So, I'm on a MacBook P

Re: I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Anders F Björklund
Omar Green wrote: I wouldn't have necessarily thought this was a bug (maybe double referencing CC is just how you guys roll), but I stumbled on a different bug while Googling around trying to diagnose the problem (completely different system, but consistent behavior) No it's not a particula

Re: Can the port command take advantage of multiple cores?

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 00:44:51 -0500, Yves de Champlain wrote: > It was a general warning rather than a bug report ... 8 cores and > happens during destroot. I did not keep the output but it had something > to do with "waiting for unfinished jobs" I don't think this is a bug. Doesn't this mean that "m

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 5 févr. 08 à 16:13, Daniel J. Luke a écrit : We really need to do one of a couple of things: - Change the perl port to install a minimum perl along with individual ports for each of the CORE modules - Change the @INC ordering (thus making our perl act differently from the upstream per

Re: Executing scripts during configure

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Franz
On Feb 6, 2008 2:07 AM, N_Ox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 6 févr. 08 à 08:01, Ryan Schmidt a écrit : > > > > > > > It would probably be: > > > > set libgcj [exec find ${prefix}/share/java -name "libgcj-4\.2*.jar"] > > > > (unless you use fs-traverse like Daniel said) > > > > I think the curren

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread David Corking
He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers unspeakable names on a mailing list. However if you like his designs, there is an ext2 fs driver for Mac OS X! I personally am I bit frustrated with HFS+, as I experienced first-hand the limits of its fsck utility (*). But I am n

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Feb 6, 2008, at 7:17 AM, David Corking wrote: He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers unspeakable names on a mailing list. It's also worth noting that "scary" can mean "I don't understanding it". While I think it is a mistake to try to micro-analyze everything

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 4:49 AM, N_Ox wrote: Le 5 févr. 08 à 16:13, Daniel J. Luke a écrit : We really need to do one of a couple of things: - Change the perl port to install a minimum perl along with individual ports for each of the CORE modules - Change the @INC ordering (thus making our perl ac

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Matthew Ross
Why don't we leave the @INC in the order it is now so we don't break current perl ports and use the APPLLIB_EXP option like FreeBSD does? The Perl INSTALL file explains it's use: "There is one other way of adding paths to @INC at perl build time, and that is by setting the APPLLIB_EXP C pre-pr

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2008-02-05 10:13:03 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: svk requires newer versions of CORE modules than those that ship with perl5.8 This is strange because I don't see dependencies on particular versions in svk. Well, if the svk authors used '

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Matthew Ross wrote: Why don't we leave the @INC in the order it is now so we don't break current perl ports and use the APPLLIB_EXP option like FreeBSD does? If we decide to change @INC this is probably the best way to do it. Call it whatever you like... If we m

Re: Bugs in gtk2

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 6 févr. 08 à 14:35, Jürgen Dabel a écrit : Hallo, I get the following message: bash-3.2$ sudo port install gtk2 Password: ---> Verifying checksum(s) for libxml2 Error: Checksum (md5) mismatch for libxml2-2.6.30.tar.gz Error: Checksum (sha1) mismatch for libxml2-2.6.30.tar.gz Error: Checks

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 6, 2008 5:17 AM, David Corking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He is known for exaggeration. He once called all C++ programmers > unspeakable names on a mailing list. > > However if you like his designs, there is an ext2 fs driver for Mac OS X! > > I personally am I bit frustrated with HFS+,

Re: Executing scripts during configure

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 6 févr. 08 à 14:04, Michael Franz a écrit : On Feb 6, 2008 2:07 AM, N_Ox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le 6 févr. 08 à 08:01, Ryan Schmidt a écrit : > > > It would probably be: > > set libgcj [exec find ${prefix}/share/java -name "libgcj-4\.2*.jar"] > > (unless you use fs-traverse like Dani

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 10:40:30 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Feb 5, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> On 2008-02-05 10:13:03 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: >>> svk requires newer versions of CORE modules than those that ship with >>> perl5.8 >> >> This is strange because I don't see dependencie

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Peter O'Gorman
paul beard wrote: > > [OT] > I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I > use [Mac|Darwin]Ports. fink was fine but once it became a leaderless > mob, I left. > [/OT] This kind of crap does not encourage me to help out on this list. Peter -- Peter O'Gorman http://po

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread N_Ox
Le 6 févr. 08 à 18:12, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : The point is that the end user already needs to change his $PATH. So, this wouldn't be a big difference. I don't see any kind of link with $PATH here. -- Anthony Ramine, the "Ports tree cleaning Maestro". <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> __

macports installation vs 10.5.1/Xcode 3.0?

2008-02-06 Thread Lloyd Wood
Hi, I'm having trouble installing macports on a Leopard 10.5.1 Santa Rosa Macbook with Xcode 3.0. I've run the binary installer (1.6) multiple times. It takes ages on the 'completing install' stage, but eventually does seem to complete with a green tick. I've also tried the tarball, which appar

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 18:29:21 +0100, N_Ox wrote: > Le 6 févr. 08 à 18:12, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : >> The point is that the end user already needs to change his $PATH. >> So, this wouldn't be a big difference. > > I don't see any kind of link with $PATH here. No-one complained that users have to modify

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Daniel J. Luke
On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I don't see any kind of link with $PATH here. No-one complained that users have to modify their $PATH. With $PERL5LIB, this is the same thing. We attempt to automatically modify users' $PATH with the installer. -- Daniel J. Luke +===

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
On Feb 6, 2008, at 6:28 AM, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: The only problem that I've ever had (and I'm no expert either) is when I'd installed the perl script for fetching HTTP headers in /usr/local/bin/HEAD That's easily remedied by using the new[er] case-sensitive variant of HFS (also known

Re: libIDL woes

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 5, 2008 6:14 PM, Ryan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem has not been worked around. The bug is still open: > > http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/macports/ticket/14144 > > The problems that were worked around were the "unable to infer tagged > configuration" bug affecting

Re: macports installation vs 10.5.1/Xcode 3.0?

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:29, Lloyd Wood wrote: I'm having trouble installing macports on a Leopard 10.5.1 Santa Rosa Macbook with Xcode 3.0. I've run the binary installer (1.6) multiple times. It takes ages on the 'completing install' stage, but eventually does seem to complete with a green ti

[OT] Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread David Corking
Peter wrote: > > I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I > > fink was fine but once it became a leaderless > > mob, I left. > > [/OT] > > This kind of crap does not encourage me to help out on this list. Lets be nice to the fink folks (I mean it. Darwin and OS X -

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Scott C. Kennedy
But, then you have to deal with lazy developers & QA issues like... * Microsoft Office 2004 Entourage can't understand timezone when using sync services 1. cd /Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office (or the appropriately situated place on your machine) 2. ln

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread paul beard
On Feb 6, 2008 8:54 AM, Peter O'Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > paul beard wrote: > > > > > [OT] > > I use FreeBSD and like it just fine: in fact that's one of the reason I > > use [Mac|Darwin]Ports. fink was fine but once it became a leaderless > > mob, I left. > > [/OT] > > This kind of crap

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
That's a fair point. Perhaps better to format a "work" partition as HFSX then and keep the system partition as HFS. That way, you can at least check out sources and do various things which are tripped up by case insensitivity while still not running afoul of apps like this. - Jordan On F

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread James Sumners
These things would probably get fixed Macs shipped with the case sensitive filesystem installed. Personally, I was quite surprised that the filesystem was case insensitive when I got my first Mac (a PowerBook three years ago). On Feb 6, 2008 2:31 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: libtool and ImageMagick problems

2008-02-06 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Jochem Huhmann wrote: > On 2008-02-04, at 14:21, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > >> I would like to get it resolved too. Could I ask you to please file a >> ticket in our issue tracker and assign it to me? I'll see what I can do. > > > Thanks, I did that a few moments ago (#14195). I've also attached the

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Salvatore Domenick Desiano
o That's a fair point. Perhaps better to format a "work" partition as HFSX then o and keep the system partition as HFS. That way, you can at least check out o sources and do various things which are tripped up by case insensitivity while o still not running afoul of apps like this. I've been mou

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with grandma on the phone and she's saying "I can't open my file named ``fluffy!''", the last thing you need is to go 10 rounds trying to figure out whether she actually named it Fluffy, fluffY or FlUFfY. That is why case insensit

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread James Sumners
Fair enough. But if grandma is using a mouse is it really a problem? On Feb 6, 2008 3:13 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with > grandma on the phone and she's saying "I can't open my file named > ``fluffy!''", the last

Re: I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Omar Green
I''ve entered in a bug for this now, bug #14213. Set the priority to normal, and I have no idea how you guys prioritize. Thanks a bunch, Anders for the swift reply. Guess, for now I'll have to get the install of Ruby done manually. Best, -O Anders F Björklund wrote: Omar Green wrote: >

Re: I think I've found a bug in configure for help2man, but would like to verify

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 15:27, Omar Green wrote: Anders F Björklund wrote: Omar Green wrote: > I wouldn't have necessarily thought this was a bug (maybe double > referencing > CC is just how you guys roll), but I stumbled on a different bug while > Googling around trying to diagnose the pro

Re: p5-getopt-long and perl5.8 - activation error

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 12:52:45 -0500, Daniel J. Luke wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> No-one complained that users have to modify their $PATH. >> With $PERL5LIB, this is the same thing. > > We attempt to automatically modify users' $PATH with the installer. In a similar way,

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2008-02-06 12:13:32 -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with grandma > on the phone and she's saying "I can't open my file named ``fluffy!''", > the last thing you need is to go 10 rounds trying to figure out whether > she actually nam

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Emmanuel Hainry
Citando Jordan K. Hubbard : > On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:37 AM, James Sumners wrote: > >> These things would probably get fixed Macs shipped with the case >> sensitive filesystem installed. Personally, I was quite surprised that >> the filesystem was case insensitive when I got my first Mac (a >> PowerB

Re: macports installation vs 10.5.1/Xcode 3.0?

2008-02-06 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg
On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:29, Lloyd Wood wrote: - 'man port' does not return anything, although /opt/local/man/man1/ port1.gz exists This suggests the postflight installer script has failed somehow in setting up .profile. This is a known prob

Re: macports installation vs 10.5.1/Xcode 3.0?

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 18:47, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:29, Lloyd Wood wrote: - 'man port' does not return anything, although /opt/local/man/ man1/port1.gz exists This suggests the postflight installer script has failed someho

Re: libIDL woes

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 19:12, David Rowe wrote: Ryan Schmidt wrote: The libidl bug is a different and unrelated bug. libidl is unmaintained so someone will have to volunteer to figure out what's breaking, and how to fix it. Actually, Tod Morrison just posted in the bug that he found a reason

Patching configure - Or Not

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Franz
Hi, I need to change the way configure works for a port. Is it better to patch configure or change the underlying files and regenerate configure? In this case I have a change to acinclude.m4. To get everything updated I need to run aclocal, automake and autoconf. Since I cannot figure out how t

Re: Patching configure - Or Not

2008-02-06 Thread skip
Michael> I need to change the way configure works for a port. Is it Michael> better to patch configure or change the underlying files and Michael> regenerate configure? Patching configure is going to be very fragile. Your patch will almost certainly break with the upstream authors

Re: Patching configure - Or Not

2008-02-06 Thread Michael Franz
On Feb 6, 2008 10:33 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Michael> I need to change the way configure works for a port. Is it >Michael> better to patch configure or change the underlying files and >Michael> regenerate configure? > > Patching configure is going to be very fragile. Your p

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Tabitha McNerney
On 2/6/08, Jordan K. Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's probably never going to happen. When you're dealing with > grandma on the phone and she's saying "I can't open my file named > ``fluffy!''", the last thing you need is to go 10 rounds trying to > figure out whether she actually nam

Re: Is HFS really "scary"?

2008-02-06 Thread Tabitha McNerney
On 2/6/08, Emmanuel Hainry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Citando Jordan K. Hubbard : > > On Feb 6, 2008, at 11:37 AM, James Sumners wrote: > > > >> These things would probably get fixed Macs shipped with the case > >> sensitive filesystem installed. Personally, I was quite surprised that > >> the

Question re Ticket #14090 (Portfile diff for maven 2.0.8)

2008-02-06 Thread Brian Forte
Gentlefolk, quick question from a new-comer. Is there a timetable for the closing of this ticket: ? We're writing a 'how to' for installing maven (and a maven plugin, but that's not germain here) on a range of OSes and the OS X instruct

Re: Question re Ticket #14090 (Portfile diff for maven 2.0.8)

2008-02-06 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 6, 2008, at 22:33, Brian Forte wrote: Gentlefolk, quick question from a new-comer. Is there a timetable for the closing of this ticket: ? We're writing a 'how to' for installing maven (and a maven plugin, but that's not germain