Re: Notes...that flash by and are gone...(was Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
So the notes are available easily enough as we have demonstrated, and we could repeat spewing them again after all installations. I would hesitate removing them after each installation as a user could halt the install process. As for how many packed will be installed, that should be available si

Re: Notes...that flash by and are gone...(was Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
Crown was a lovely autocorrect for cron Ian Wadham wrote: > >On 25/02/2013, at 12:54 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> There are issues on all fronts: crown job updates, distributed >installs, etc. No one size fits all :-) > >Notes that flash by are one of my pet (only) gripes in Macports. May >I

Re: Notes...that flash by and are gone...(was Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Ian Wadham
On 25/02/2013, at 12:54 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: > There are issues on all fronts: crown job updates, distributed installs, etc. > No one size fits all :-) Notes that flash by are one of my pet (only) gripes in Macports. May I suggest: 4) Macports remembers, on a temp file, which ports in

Re: Notes...that flash by and are gone...(was Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
There are issues on all fronts: crown job updates, distributed installs, etc. No one size fits all :-) Craig Treleaven wrote: >At 5:23 PM -0600 2/24/13, Jim Graham wrote: >>On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:54PM +, Chris Jones wrote: >>> On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:59pm, Jim Graham >wrote: >> >>>

Notes...that flash by and are gone...(was Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Craig Treleaven
At 5:23 PM -0600 2/24/13, Jim Graham wrote: On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:54PM +, Chris Jones wrote: On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:59pm, Jim Graham wrote: There is nothing wrong with KDE, as long as you properly install the dependencies it requires. My reading of this rather long thread is al

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 12:07:14, allber...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Jan Stary wrote: > > > > > > the right port command to point me to kdenlive, and installed > > > > and ran kdenlive.app. > > > > > > From macports? What's the

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > Point is, the answer to that person's question is a solid YES, it is > used extensively outside of macports. The impression I get is that Tcl is one of those tools that is much more commonly used by people who *use computers to work* than by peop

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 17:48:04, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:41:17AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > > > > That's not how macport's ports are installed. You don't have to move > > any icon anywhere. > > No, of course you don't. But as you already know, having read my post > before

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:41:17AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > That's not how macport's ports are installed. You don't have to move > any icon anywhere. No, of course you don't. But as you already know, having read my post before commenting, I wasn't talking about macports installs for that sm

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 17:30:02, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:08:50PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > > > You should not have had to copy "the icon" (I assume you mean the > > application) anywhere. You could just run it from > > /Applications/Macports or maybe it is /Applications/Ma

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:33:08PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > I was referring to the install process with online stuff, where it gives > > you this neat little display where you move an icon for the app into > > an icon for Applications. N

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 17:03:57, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:48:38PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Feb 24 15:35:58, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > And now the real reason for this response. I haven't put the icon in > > > finder's Applications folder (which I rarely use

Re: Damaged database?

2013-02-24 Thread Clemens Lang
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:20:55PM -0800, Adam Dershowitz wrote: > Do the above look correct? Any thoughts about how it might be > > possible to repair this? Find the broken entry, delete it, remove the corresponding file manually (if you can find out which one it is). If you can't removing the en

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 11:30pm, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:08:50PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > >> You should not have had to copy "the icon" (I assume you mean the >> application) anywhere. You could just run it from >> /Applications/Macports or maybe it is /Applications/Macp

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> My question, as someone who needs a better editor than iMovie, is: Exactly >> what do I need to do to get kdenlive to work properly? > > just run > > > sudo port install kdenlive > > and make sure you follow the instructions you are given, f

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > I was referring to the install process with online stuff, where it gives > you this neat little display where you move an icon for the app into > an icon for Applications. Not really necessary, but it's there. As I Right, but that has nothing

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 24 Feb 2013, at 11:29pm, Michael wrote: >> >>> There is nothing wrong with KDE, as long as you properly install the >>> dependencies it requires. My reading of this rather long thread is all >>> of the problems would have been avoided if the OP had followed the >>> instructions as presen

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:08:50PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > You should not have had to copy "the icon" (I assume you mean the > application) anywhere. You could just run it from > /Applications/Macports or maybe it is /Applications/Macports/KDE4 I was referring to the install process with o

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Michael
> >> There is nothing wrong with KDE, as long as you properly install the >> dependencies it requires. My reading of this rather long thread is all >> of the problems would have been avoided if the OP had followed the >> instructions as presented to them. You cannot blame KDE for the >> problems t

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 24 Feb 2013, at 11:23pm, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:54PM +, Chris Jones wrote: >> On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:59pm, Jim Graham wrote: > >> There is nothing wrong with KDE, as long as you properly install the >> dependencies it requires. My reading of this rather lon

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:03:54PM +, Chris Jones wrote: > On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:59pm, Jim Graham wrote: > There is nothing wrong with KDE, as long as you properly install the > dependencies it requires. My reading of this rather long thread is all > of the problems would have been avoided if

Re: Damaged database?

2013-02-24 Thread Adam Dershowitz
On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:11 AM, Rainer Müller wrote: > On 2013-02-23 20:23, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: >>> What happens if you query the sqlite registry db directly? >>> >>> $ sqlite3 /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db .schema >>> $ sqlite3 /opt/local/var/macports/registry/registry.db "se

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 14:51:07, sewebs...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jan Stary wrote: >>> Does that mean that macports installs stuff out of /opt/local? >>> For example, under /Applications? >>> >> >> Yes. > > Do we mention it in t

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > versions of Tcl/Tk. But again, that seems to have been resolved with > the idea of having ports like the following: > > tcl8.4 > tcl8.5 > tcl8.6 > wish8.4 > wish8.5 > wish8.6 > But, as has been noted very recently in other threads on this mail

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:10:42PM -0600, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013, at 13:58, Jim Graham wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:20:48PM -0500, Lawrence Vel?zquez wrote: > >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > >> > MacPorts has no knowledge of what non-MacPorts files you h

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > What icon was missing? I said I hadn't copied the icon into finder's > Applications, and that, now that it was working, I just used the icon > in the dock. No missing icon that I'm aware of. > You should not have had to copy "the icon" (I ass

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:48:38PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 15:35:58, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > And now the real reason for this response. I haven't put the icon in > > finder's Applications folder (which I rarely use anyways), but it is in > > the dock, and yes, it works nic

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 10:59pm, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: >> >> This is just one example of the utter crap that KDE is. >> >> The original question was what is a good video editor. >> If kdenlive is KDE-based (which it is), avoid it; >> like any

Re: [smartmontools-support] Non-portable regex in drivedb.h

2013-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-02-23 15:57, Christian Franke wrote: > Rainer Müller wrote: >> Line 165 of this file contains the following regex: >> >> "C300-CTFDDA[AC](064|128|256)MAG|", // tested with [...] > > The trailing '|' is a regression from a previous split of entries in > r3772. I fixed this in r3779 (6.

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
The big issue with /usr/local is it gets pulled into software builds without permission, due to various configure scripts and compilers. Clobbering files in /Applications is a separate issue, since they tend to be monolithic. Jan Stary wrote: >On Feb 24 14:51:07, sewebs...@gmail.com wrote: >>

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:43:26PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > This is just one example of the utter crap that KDE is. > > The original question was what is a good video editor. > If kdenlive is KDE-based (which it is), avoid it; > like anything else that is KDE-based. :-) I tend to agree (see

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 14:51:07, sewebs...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jan Stary wrote: > > Does that mean that macports installs stuff out of /opt/local? > > For example, under /Applications? > > > > Yes. Do we mention it in the Guide or in the FAQ? There was this whole debate about

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:04:04PM -0500, Lawrence Vel?zquez wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > A valid point, of course. We generally try to provide multiple options > in situations where versions matter for one reason or another. For > instance, see the plethora of port

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Jan Stary wrote: > Does that mean that macports installs stuff out of /opt/local? > For example, under /Applications? > Yes. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org https://lists.macosforge.or

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 12:07:14, allber...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Jan Stary wrote: > > > > the right port command to point me to kdenlive, and installed > > > and ran kdenlive.app. > > > > From macports? What's the kdenlive APP, > > as opposed to macport's multimedia/kdenlive? >

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 15:35:58, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > So does just double clipping the app in Finder work? It does for me... > > And now the real reason for this response. I haven't put the icon in > finder's Applications folder (which I rarely use anyways), but it is in > the dock, and yes, it wo

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 12:29:11, allber...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > > > always been flaky (and useless even when it runs, as you need to install > > > all the KDE dependencies with debug symbols for it to be able to do > > > anything at all useful). > > > > I

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 10:48:24, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > ardour2 is in macports. The site for the binary version demands money > for the Mac OS X working version (or you get a demo that doesn't save > anything). Considering that I currently have $1.38 to last until my > next disability payment in March,

Re: dbus activation problem caused by leftover files from ancient macports install

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 24, 2013, at 15:00, Rainer Müller wrote: > On 2013-02-24 21:07, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: >> This might be caused by the fact I had a very outdated macports installed >> before (from 10.4 something) which I wasn't able to upgrade. So I removed >> everything manually but did not look i

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> There are lots of things that Macports COULD theoretically do, but >> given the available resources it basically only works in "one way." >> That means that there is one available version of every port, and > > This is not always the case. Th

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:12:03PM -0500, Lawrence Vel?zquez wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > Just to clear things up, that statement was incorrect. Your uname output was > > > Darwin n5ial-1.local 11.4.2 Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.2: Thu Aug 23 > > 16:25:48 PDT 2012; >

Re: THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 4:35 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > I think, when it failed because I don't have 10.8.x (or do I? "About > this Mac says it's 10.7.5, but after reading my "uname -a" output, > someone said I did have 10.8, presumably based on that output), > I mentioned that. Not really asking abou

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 24, 2013, at 13:58, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:20:48PM -0500, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: >> On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Jim Graham wrote: >> >>> I had to re-install it, because it magically uninstalled itself, during, >>> I suspect, the upgrade to the latest macports. >>

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > That's fine. But considering the fact that there are syntax changes > between Tcl/Tk versions, removing an existing one is most definitely NOT > safe, as it could break Tcl/Tk programs that the user has written. I > personally consider this extre

Re: binary pakages for darwin9

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 23, 2013, at 09:07, Jan Stary wrote: > I am trying to install SoX using a binary package on my 10.5.8 > which is > > $ uname -a > Darwin mac.stare.cz 9.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 > 16:55:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 > > Are binary packages for da

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:03:23PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > That means that there is one available version of every port, and > But maybe you are saying that you never upgraded, in which case I > cannot understand how your ports would have gotten updated. I did the selfupdate for macports, a

Re: binary pakages for darwin9

2013-02-24 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Feb 24, 2013, at 05:01, Rainer Müller wrote: > On 2013-02-23 23:34, Jan Stary wrote: >> On Feb 23 21:53:13, jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk wrote: >>> The top section says that macports is targeting mainly the current Mac OS X release (10.8, A.K.A. Mountain Lion) and the immediat

THANKS (WAS: Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:11:54PM -0800, Scott Webster wrote: > A bit late now, but my impression from earlier in this thread when > there was some discussion about installing a binary... I think Jim was > installing a non-Macports binary. Only for one or two posts---I mentioned (was not asking a

Re: X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 07:57 PM, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Lawrence Velázquez > wrote: >> On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Jim Graham wrote: >> > I'm still running Lion, until this whole X11 being missing thing is >> > fixed (I'm not holding my breath, since nobody el

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
A bit late now, but my impression from earlier in this thread when there was some discussion about installing a binary... I think Jim was installing a non-Macports binary. Which is fine of course, but certainly has nothing to do with Macports... and it should be realized that at times it can becom

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Scott Webster
There are lots of things that Macports COULD theoretically do, but given the available resources it basically only works in "one way." That means that there is one available version of every port, and there is no trivial mechanism to only apply security updates etc etc. So if you run "port upgrade"

Re: dbus activation problem caused by leftover files from ancient macports install

2013-02-24 Thread Rainer Müller
On 2013-02-24 21:07, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > This might be caused by the fact I had a very outdated macports installed > before (from 10.4 something) which I wasn't able to upgrade. So I removed > everything manually but did not look into /Library/LaunchAgents/ and > /Library/LaunchDaem

Re: X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:43:23PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > I don't think it will be free unless you did the Lion upgrade fairly > recently. It's something like $20. Then I probably won't be doing the upgrade at all. But even if I did find a reason to pay to upgrade the OS, I would sti

Re: X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > So as long as the upgrade is free (which I'm 99% sure it will be), I > might just do the upgrade as soon as I can afford to buy another 500 GB > (or larger) drive to back my system up to I never trust any system > I don't think it will be

dbus activation problem caused by leftover files from ancient macports install

2013-02-24 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Hi, trying to install inkscape I got the following error: Error: org.macports.activate for port dbus returned: Image error: /Library/LaunchAgents/org.freedesktop.dbus-session.plist already exists and does not belong to a registered port. Unable to activate port dbus. Use 'port -f activate dbu

Re: X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:57:26PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > Moreover, ML provides a stub that offers to download and install XQuartz; > this is a reasonable way to handle making a component optional. I obviously missed this bit in the discussions (which, I must admit, I did not read all of

Re: Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 02:20:48PM -0500, Lawrence Vel?zquez wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > > I had to re-install it, because it magically uninstalled itself, during, > > I suspect, the upgrade to the latest macports. > > You mentioned that you upgraded to a new MacP

Re: X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > I'm still running Lion, until this whole X11 being missing thing is > > fixed (I'm not holding my breath, since nobody else seems to think it's > > a flawi in ML like I do). > > You can

X server on Mountain Lion (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 23, 2013, at 9:42 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > I'm still running Lion, until this whole X11 being missing thing is > fixed (I'm not holding my breath, since nobody else seems to think it's > a flawi in ML like I do). You can get an X server on Mountain Lion by installing the "xorg-server" or

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > But let's try that again (running port location kdenlive from vim using > !!port location kdenlive: > > Port kdenlive 0.9.4_0 is installed as an image in: > /opt/local/var/macports/software/kdenlive/kdenlive-0.9.4_0.darwin_11.x86_64.tbz2 > > Now

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 07:17 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > Hi, > > You should only have run as root (or better via sudo as a regular user. There > is a slight difference and macports works best with sudo) the commands the > 'port notes' explicitly said you should run through sudo. The rest should be

Magically-disappearing tclsh8.5 (was: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?)

2013-02-24 Thread Lawrence Velázquez
On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > I had to re-install it, because it magically uninstalled itself, during, > I suspect, the upgrade to the latest macports. You mentioned that you upgraded to a new MacPorts base recently. Unless you installed it from source, the install process au

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, You should only have run as root (or better via sudo as a regular user. There is a slight difference and macports works best with sudo) the commands the 'port notes' explicitly said you should run through sudo. The rest should be run as your regular user account. The launchd commands fixed

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:35:59AM -0800, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > > If the notes for kde, dbus and other installed dependencies have been > followed then I would expect double clicking > /Applications/MacPorts/kdenlive.app to launch kdenlive.

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 24 Feb 2013, at 06:58 PM, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> but for some reason it misses >> >> Chris-Jones-Macbook-Pro ~ > port notes dbus > > That's because dbus isn't category:kde4 > > Just axe the "and category:kde4" off to see more ports' notes. Well yes... My point was more I thought so

Re: fontforge insists on using Apple's X11.app

2013-02-24 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Am 24.02.2013 um 19:23 schrieb Brandon Allbery: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf > wrote: > after years of absence today I gave macports another try. I installed xorg > first and after this fontforge, both without any special options. When I then > launched fontforge

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hi, On 24 Feb 2013, at 05:57 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:39:16PM +, Chris Jones wrote: > >> Did you pay attention to the various messages that would have been >> printed, when you first installed keen live and it's dependencies ? For >> install telling you to set up

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
> but for some reason it misses > > Chris-Jones-Macbook-Pro ~ > port notes dbus That's because dbus isn't category:kde4 Just axe the "and category:kde4" off to see more ports' notes. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 6:00pm, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: >> I didn't even see any of it. I tend to let ports install and take care >> of themselves, unless I see any notes at the end of the install (where I >> do look for them). >> >> So what do I need to do? > > You can review all the notes for ins

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Bradley Giesbrecht
On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:07:14PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > >> KDE defaults to building native, so KDE apps end up as app bundles in >> /Applications/MacPorts. > > I think I now know where I'm going wrong. How do I need to run kdenlive? >

Re: fontforge insists on using Apple's X11.app

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf < lars.sonchocky-helld...@hamburg.de> wrote: > after years of absence today I gave macports another try. I installed xorg > first and after this fontforge, both without any special options. When I > then launched fontforge Apple's X11.app op

Re: fontforge insists on using Apple's X11.app

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
It seems you disabled auto-running of X11 but the error indicates X11 must be running prior to launching the application. Consider either running it manually or turn the LauchAgent back on. On Feb 24, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote: > Feb 24 18:57:44 MBP15 [0x0-0x75075].net.sou

fontforge insists on using Apple's X11.app

2013-02-24 Thread Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf
Hi MacPorters, after years of absence today I gave macports another try. I installed xorg first and after this fontforge, both without any special options. When I then launched fontforge Apple's X11.app opened. I then disabled this by issuing: launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchAgents/or

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:00:02PM -0500, Jeremy Lavergne wrote: > > I didn't even see any of it. I tend to let ports install and take care > > of themselves, unless I see any notes at the end of the install (where I > > do look for them). > > > > So what do I need to do? > > You can review all

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:44:00AM -0500, Lawrence Vel?zquez wrote: > On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > > > The mystery, however, is how tclsh8.5 managed to remove itself from > > /opt/local/bin without my removing it or giving anything else the > > permission to remove it. But I

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jeremy Lavergne
> I didn't even see any of it. I tend to let ports install and take care > of themselves, unless I see any notes at the end of the install (where I > do look for them). > > So what do I need to do? You can review all the notes for installed KDE4 ports: `port notes installed and category:kde4` _

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:39:16PM +, Chris Jones wrote: > Did you pay attention to the various messages that would have been > printed, when you first installed keen live and it's dependencies ? For > install telling you to set up the launchd for dbus ? The exact command > you need to run is

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Chris Jones
On 24 Feb 2013, at 05:24 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:07:14PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > >> KDE defaults to building native, so KDE apps end up as app bundles in >> /Applications/MacPorts. > > I think I now know where I'm going wrong. How do I need to run kdenlive?

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > > always been flaky (and useless even when it runs, as you need to install > > all the KDE dependencies with debug symbols for it to be able to do > > anything at all useful). > > I didn't install it---if it's there, macports installed it with

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:07:14PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > KDE defaults to building native, so KDE apps end up as app bundles in > /Applications/MacPorts. I think I now know where I'm going wrong. How do I need to run kdenlive? Do I just execute kdenlive.app? Or do I need to run somethi

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:11:24PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > drconqi is KDE's crash manager; [] > always been flaky (and useless even when it runs, as you need to install > all the KDE dependencies with debug symbols for it to be a

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 01:46:31AM +0900, Nicolas Pavillon wrote: > Hello, > > > drkonqi seems to be a KDE4 process that is somehow problematic: > > http://trac.macports.org/ticket/26591 > > DrKonqi is the crash reporter of KDE. It can be problematic, but when > it is invoked, it means that some

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > Btw, your suggestion, port install -b kdenlive, produce the exact same > result, including the mysterious drkonqi.app that keeps failing when > kdenlive tries to run. The error log says its parent app is kdenlive, > drconqi is KDE's crash ma

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Jan Stary wrote: > > the right port command to point me to kdenlive, and installed > > and ran kdenlive.app. > > From macports? What's the kdenlive APP, > as opposed to macport's multimedia/kdenlive? > KDE defaults to building native, so KDE apps end up as app b

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:39:46PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 10:27:09, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:54:21PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > > On Feb 24 08:05:02, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > and ran kdenlive.app. > > > > > > >From macports? What's the kd

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 05:30:12PM +0100, Niels Dettenbach wrote: > Mainly for audio ardour2 (and the upcoming 3) is worth a look as it aims to > provide a full featured Open Source DAW. > > Not shure if ardour is still in macports but as available as binary packages > i > assume it should be

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Nicolas Pavillon
Hello, > drkonqi seems to be a KDE4 process that is somehow problematic: > http://trac.macports.org/ticket/26591 DrKonqi is the crash reporter of KDE. It can be problematic, but when it is invoked, it means that something already went wrong. I just installed and tested kdenlive, and it seems

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 17:30:12, n...@syndicat.com wrote: > Am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2013, 10:27:09 schrieb Jim Graham: > > > >From macports? What's the kdenlive APP, > > > > > > as opposed to macport's multimedia/kdenlive? > Mainly for audio ardour2 (and the upcoming 3) is worth a look as it aims to > provide

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 10:27:09, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:54:21PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Feb 24 08:05:02, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 07:24:15AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > > > > > > Ok...what is the command to run kdenlive? > > > > > > Ne

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Niels Dettenbach
Am Sonntag, 24. Februar 2013, 10:27:09 schrieb Jim Graham: > > >From macports? What's the kdenlive APP, > > > > as opposed to macport's multimedia/kdenlive? Mainly for audio ardour2 (and the upcoming 3) is worth a look as it aims to provide a full featured Open Source DAW. Not shure if ardour is

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:54:21PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 08:05:02, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 07:24:15AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > > > > Ok...what is the command to run kdenlive? > > > > Never mind this...I read deeper into the port man page and found

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 08:23:36, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:01:36PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Feb 24 07:24:15, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > This one had a pkg file, so > > > I just double-clicked on it. It then asked me which drive to install it > > > on---either my m

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 08:05:02, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 07:24:15AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > > Ok...what is the command to run kdenlive? > > Never mind this...I read deeper into the port man page and found > the right port command to point me to kdenlive, and installed > and

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 09:30:42AM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > > > > The files /usr/bin/{tcl,wi}sh8.5 are part of OS X. > > > > Yeah, I renamed those to _.8.5.fubar and changed the sym. links, > > as that was first in my path, and thos

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jim Graham wrote: > > The files /usr/bin/{tcl,wi}sh8.5 are part of OS X. > > Yeah, I renamed those to _.8.5.fubar and changed the sym. links, > as that was first in my path, and those (like the ActiveTcl 8.4.x > release for Mac) generate a LOT of errors when

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 03:01:36PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 07:24:15, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > This one had a pkg file, so > > I just double-clicked on it. It then asked me which drive to install it > > on---either my main hard drive or eiither of two others. > > I picked the Ma

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 07:24:15AM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > Ok...what is the command to run kdenlive? Never mind this...I read deeper into the port man page and found the right port command to point me to kdenlive, and installed and ran kdenlive.app. But now there's a new problem, and I'm clue

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 07:24:15, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:42:30PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > On Feb 24 06:20:53, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:33:40PM -0600, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > What exactly is your MacOSX version (uname -a)? > > Darwin n5i

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jim Graham
On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 01:42:30PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Feb 24 06:20:53, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:33:40PM -0600, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > What exactly is your MacOSX version (uname -a)? Darwin n5ial-1.local 11.4.2 Darwin Kernel Version 11.4.2: Thu Aug 23 16:

Re: any good audio/video editing apps in macports?

2013-02-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 24 06:20:53, spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:33:40PM -0600, Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > Well, the binary version that I found failed---it requires Mt Lion or > better. What exactly is your MacOSX version (uname -a)? How exactly did you try to install the binary package

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