Re: What's our audience - and how do we serve them best

2021-04-05 Thread Bjarne D Mathiesen
Ryan Schmidt wrote: > On Apr 5, 2021, at 17:16, Bjarne D Mathiesen wrote: >> >> 1) what's our audience : >> ? newbies >> ? experienced >> ? nerds >> ? linux refugees >> each of these needs different kinds of handholding >> >> There's also a tendency to just abandon problems and wait for u

Re: What's our audience - and how do we serve them best

2021-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2021, at 17:16, Bjarne D Mathiesen wrote: > As I see it, we've got several problems/issues : > > 1) what's our audience : > ? newbies > ? experienced > ? nerds > ? linux refugees > each of these needs different kinds of handholding > > 2) how does one use macports in daily

Re: map download link to distname

2021-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2021, at 16:33, Jonathan Stickel wrote: > On 4/5/21 14:17, Ryan Schmidt wrote: >> On Apr 5, 2021, at 14:43, Jonathan Stickel wrote: >>> I'm working on updating the graphviz portfile. >> Huh, I thought an update had already been submitted months ago. > > No, as per discussion on the t

What's our audience - and how do we serve them best

2021-04-05 Thread Bjarne D Mathiesen
As I see it, we've got several problems/issues : 1) what's our audience : ? newbies ? experienced ? nerds ? linux refugees each of these needs different kinds of handholding 2) how does one use macports in daily life ? we've got a section : https://trac.macports.org/wiki/

Re: map download link to distname

2021-04-05 Thread Jonathan Stickel
On 4/5/21 14:17, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Apr 5, 2021, at 14:43, Jonathan Stickel wrote: I'm working on updating the graphviz portfile. Huh, I thought an update had already been submitted months ago. No, as per discussion on the ticket: https://trac.macports.org/ticket/62165 (I see you m

Re: macports-dev Digest, Vol 176, Issue 7

2021-04-05 Thread Karl-Michael Schindler
> Am 05.04.2021 um 22:17 schrieb macports-dev-requ...@lists.macports.org: > > Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:51:23 +0200 > From: Nils Breunese > To: MacPorts Developers > Subject: Re: Desolate Condition > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > A more scalable solution would

Re: Misconceptions about binaries (was: Re: Desolate Condition)

2021-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 3, 2021, at 19:21, Wowfunhappy wrote: > > I know it's just one data point, but I thought the replies I got on this > Hacker News comment today were interesting. I can understand why he/she got > confused, and I wonder if there's anything MacPorts could do to make it > clearer. https:/

Re: Desolate Condition

2021-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2021, at 13:04, Karl-Michael Schindler wrote: > 2) Put the command 'port install PACKAFE_NAME' to a prominent position. https://github.com/macports/macports-webapp/issues/144

Re: map download link to distname

2021-04-05 Thread Ryan Schmidt
On Apr 5, 2021, at 14:43, Jonathan Stickel wrote: > I'm working on updating the graphviz portfile. Huh, I thought an update had already been submitted months ago. > The new download link is: > > https://gitlab.com/graphviz/graphviz/-/package_files/8183714/download > > I can get Macports to

map download link to distname

2021-04-05 Thread Jonathan Stickel
I'm working on updating the graphviz portfile. The new download link is: https://gitlab.com/graphviz/graphviz/-/package_files/8183714/download I can get Macports to download it by using: master_sites https://gitlab.com/${name}/${name}/-/package_files/8183714 distfiles download But the dow

Re: Desolate Condition

2021-04-05 Thread Nils Breunese
Karl-Michael Schindler wrote: > This indicates the first problem: Brew is often better represented on > homepages of other software than MacPorts. The task to tackle is to find a > person or form a team going after this. A more scalable solution would be for port maintainers to check the upstr

Re: Desolate Condition

2021-04-05 Thread Karl-Michael Schindler
Am 05.04.2021 um 14:00 schrieb macports-dev-requ...@lists.macports.org: > > To: MacPorts Developers > Subject: Re: Desolate Condition > Message-ID: > Hi. I think that the topic installing binaries or not points to a more general issue, namely public relations. MacPorts could improve a lot on

Re: FAQ wording (was: Re: Desolate Condition)

2021-04-05 Thread Jason Liu
> > What if the end of the first sentence was changed to: "ports will be > installed for only the architecture you're currently running on."? > Besides being the most concisely worded, I also find this version to be the most unambiguous. I think leaving the words "build/built" and "compile" out of

Re: FAQ wording (was: Re: Desolate Condition)

2021-04-05 Thread wowfunha...@gmail.com
> It's a tricky thing to state both concisely and accurately because the > compilation may indeed happen on the user's computer after installation > is requested. Or it may not. The ambiguity of whether "be compiled" is a > verb in the passive voice ("the code is being compiled") or a > descrip