Re: [OT] Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-02-03 Thread Helge Hafting
Andre Poenitz wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:43:30PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: I don't see how you arrive at that. If I assume perhaps twenty or so ranges of 256 chars. for a very large font family (including greek letters, punctuation and more -- and I assume that this would cover CM

Re: [OT] Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-26 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:43:30PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > Andre Poenitz writes: > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:55:27PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Andre Poenitz writes: > > > > I'd guess it's almost impossible to get kerning right in all > > > > circumstances. > > > There can't be to

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kevin" == Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kevin> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: >> What font are you using currently? EC? Kevin> The Computer Modern family ("ae" variant). Did you try EC or lmodern? Does it make a difference? JMarc

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-26 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes writes: > What font are you using currently? EC? The Computer Modern family ("ae" variant). -Kevin -- Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tiros-Translations

Re: [OT] Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Kevin" == Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kevin> Anyway, one can assume (I would have thought) that Knuth would Kevin> have worked in an optimal manner and therefore paid particular Kevin> attention to the most common possible combinations (such as the Kevin> basic lower- and upp

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-25 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Kevin Pfeiffer writes: > And it seems to me that the kerning pairs would be 5K to > the power of 2 (not 2 to the power of 5K) (Well, I see now that that is not what you were saying, either!) -K -- Kevin Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tiros-Translations

[OT] Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-25 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Andre Poenitz writes: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:55:27PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > > Andre Poenitz writes: > > > I'd guess it's almost impossible to get kerning right in all > > > circumstances. > > There can't be too many more than about 65K possible combinations I > > would think -- apolog

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-25 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 08:55:27PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > Andre Poenitz writes: > > I'd guess it's almost impossible to get kerning right in all > > circumstances. > > That sounds like a NASA (space shuttle) answer. ;-) Now, if they'd paid me like a NASA engineer ... > There can't be to

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Herbert Voss writes: > Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: [...] > > This kerns better it seems, but it is an en-dash, not a hyphen. In > > the humanities and social sciences, at least, hyphens are used for > > compound word (with a few exceptions). :-( > > The en dash (–) is used to indicate a range of just ab

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Andre Poenitz writes: > I'd guess it's almost impossible to get kerning right in all > circumstances. That sounds like a NASA (space shuttle) answer. ;-) There can't be too many more than about 65K possible combinations I would think -- apologies in advance if my math is wrong. > Using a manua

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Herbert Voss
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: Hi, (thanks for your always quick and helpful answers BTW) Herbert Voss writes: Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: I must say that I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of kerning of letter combinations such as "-W" in the word "non-Western". This is using the standard CM font. To

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:09:10PM +0100, Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > I must say that I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of kerning of > letter combinations such as "-W" in the word "non-Western". This is > using the standard CM font. To get the hyphen to appear visually > balanced in "non-Weste

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
Hi, (thanks for your always quick and helpful answers BTW) Herbert Voss writes: > Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: > > I must say that I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of kerning > > of letter combinations such as "-W" in the word "non-Western". This > > is using the standard CM font. To get the hyphe

Re: kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Herbert Voss
Kevin Pfeiffer wrote: I must say that I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of kerning of letter combinations such as "-W" in the word "non-Western". This is using the standard CM font. To get the hyphen to appear visually balanced in "non-Western" I am having to add -0.1em kerning between it

kerning of letters with hyphen not so great

2006-01-23 Thread Kevin Pfeiffer
I must say that I am somewhat disappointed at the lack of kerning of letter combinations such as "-W" in the word "non-Western". This is using the standard CM font. To get the hyphen to appear visually balanced in "non-Western" I am having to add -0.1em kerning between it and the W. I also see