Hi,
Dov,
I don't understand why you would need to keep the logical behavior.
In my opinion it is just bad, but we have all gotten used to it so it feels
familiar.
I will join the devel thread as Stefan requested.
Miki
"Dov Feldstern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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Dov Feldstern wrote:
> Back to RTL spaces:
>
> The problem is this: almost always, the user just wanted a space between
> the previous word (which happened to be, say English) and the next one
> (which happens to be Hebrew), but by mistake pressed F12 before space
> and not first space and only t
Now we have two threads in lyx-users and lyx-devels. Miki, are you on
lyx-devels as well? Then we can continue there with the discussion.
Stefan
Am 05.06.2007 um 18:11 schrieb Miki Dovrat:
Hi,
I am having trouble following your examples, but my opinion is that
no MAGIC
should happen.
Spa
Miki Dovrat wrote:
Hi,
I already replied Stefan off list, but I will post this again so anyone can
comment.
The brain (at least mine) does not like movement to the opposite side. When
you press the left arrow, you expect the cursor to move to the left. Try
riding a bike with the hands crossed
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 21:06 schrieb Miki Dovrat:
> Lyx has an option of underlining the foreign text. What I meant was that
I
> always turn that off, so I can't tell which direction the spaces belong
to.
Now I understand. I did not know that you can turn it off :-)
Georg
Hi,
I already replied Stefan off list, but I will post this again so anyone can
comment.
The brain (at least mine) does not like movement to the opposite side. When
you press the left arrow, you expect the cursor to move to the left. Try
riding a bike with the hands crossed, wear a helmet!!!
So
Lyx has an option of underlining the foreign text. What I meant was that I
always turn that off, so I can't tell which direction the spaces belong to.
I don't mind that each space should have a definitive direction, I think the
best way would be that the border spaces will always have the direct
Another open question (at least to me): how common and convenient is
this logical cursor movement? For me it is rather strange and
confusing. But maybe one just needs some years of working with it to
get used to it intuitively.
I ask because I don't think it's very complicated to add visual
Definitely the non-magic solution: If you enter a space it gets the
direction (RTL or LTR) of the current font, and is drawn on screen
according to that direction (place and underlining), and cursor
navigation
follows that direction.
It should not be possible to enter two consecutive spaces (on
Miki Dovrat wrote:
> The users (at least me) don't know whether the space is RTL or LTR because
> they don't "mark RTL code" since it is annoying to look at when writing a
> document in RTL.
I don't understand what you mean here. When you write a mixed hebrew/english
document you have to explicit
>
> Definitely the non-magic solution: If you enter a space it gets the
> direction (RTL or LTR) of the current font, and is drawn on screen
> according to that direction (place and underlining), and cursor navigation
> follows that direction.
> It should not be possible to enter two consecutive sp
Stefan Schimanski wrote:
> There are several possibilities now to interpret the underlined
> spaces (short RTL spaces):
>
> * The LyX 1.3 magic way: the RTL spaces behave in fact like LTR
> spaces, i.e. they are put where non-underlined spaces would be. See
> this example:
This magic has b
Hi,
I am having trouble following your examples, but my opinion is that no MAGIC
should happen.
Spaces jumping from side to side or characters at the end of a RTL jumping
to the beginning and such are so annoying!!! The user can never tell where
he/she is as far as LTR or RTL is concerned.
My
Hi!
Myself and Dov Feldstern are working on the support for Right-To-Left
languages in LyX. In the latest RC1 there are many things which are
not the way they should be. As we are not using Right-To-Left ourself
we lack a bit the experience how it should look like and what is most
conveni
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