Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-13 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > > Except for DocBook classes. > > It is impossible to make it right for all cases. I don't think so. "Embedded Raw Text" matches pretty much all cases. > DocBook is rarely used compared to (La)(Xe)(pdfla)TeX. This doesn't matter. LyX is not a LaTeX frontend (only). > The na

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-12 Thread Uwe Stöhr
Jürgen Spitzmüller schrieb: because that's what it is - code for the language TeX. Except for DocBook classes. It is impossible to make it right for all cases. DocBook is rarely used compared to (La)(Xe)(pdfla)TeX. The naming problem is th same as with short title, in some cases it is the s

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-12 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Uwe Stöhr wrote: > because that's what it is - code for the language TeX. Except for DocBook classes. Jürgen

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-11 Thread Uwe Stöhr
I'm impressed that you persevered so long discussing about a name of a term. Except of the abbreviation "ERT" as short name for the TeX code inset LyX consistently names it "TeX code" (in the tooltips, toolbar, documentation files) because that's what it is - code for the language TeX. regard

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-11 Thread Thomas Steffen
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> > The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX >> > as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. I agree, it is not a useful term. > If you wish, you ca

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-11 Thread Piero Faustini
> If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded Raw > Text". No, no, "Evil Red TeX". It's Evil. It's Red. It's TeX. It is scaring and fashinating as some Red Army logo. +1 for keeping it.

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread rgheck
Kornel Benko wrote: Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt: Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. I don't think that's why it was called "evil". The evilness comes from the fact that

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Freitag 10 April 2009 schrieb Steve Litt: > >    Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too > > difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need it. > > I don't think that's why it was called "evil". The evilness comes from the > fact that you're formatting, p

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread curtis osterhoudt
lyx.org Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:14:42 AM Subject: Terminology Change Request for Next Release The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fa

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Friday 10 April 2009 01:33:10 pm Rich Shepard wrote: > On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > > If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded > > Raw Text". > > Juergen, > >That works. :-) For me too. Thinking of embedded LaTeX as "ERT" would have bee

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Richard Heck wrote: [rgh...@localhost doc]$ pwd /cvs/lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc [rgh...@localhost doc]$ grep -iR "evil red text" * | grep -v .svn DocStyle.lyx:Evil Red Text es/Extended.lyx:Evil Red Text eu/Extended.lyx: Komando-mota horiei ERT (Inpernuko Testu Gorria edo "Evil

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Richard Heck
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Rich Shepard wrote: The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? AFAIK, it is no "of

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: If you wish, you can decode "ERT" in the collapsable buttons as "Embedded Raw Text". Juergen, That works. :-) Perhaps I'm too sensitive to those who claim that LaTeX is much too difficult so they won't try LyX or learn LaTeX as they need i

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Christian Ridderström
On Fri, 10 Apr 2009, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: It's a joke. Irony. Developers also want to have (a bit of) fun, sometimes. I actually like "ERT" because of how it's a connection to the history of LyX and its origins. :-) /Christian -- Christian Ridderström Mobile:

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX > > as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. > > Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? > AFAIK, it is no "official" term (anymor

Re: Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Rich Shepard wrote: > The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX > as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Could you point me to the places in the manuals where this acronym is used? AFAIK, it is no "official" term (anymore). The (Engli

Terminology Change Request for Next Release

2009-04-10 Thread Rich Shepard
The reference to embedded LaTeX within a document being written with LyX as "Evil Red Text (ERT)" has bothered me from the first time I saw it. Since LyX is a GUI front end to LaTeX I fail to see how there's anything "evil" about LaTeX. More to the point, looking at how many requests for help