Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Alfredo Braunstein
Darren Freeman wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 12:47 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> would find something there, it was a funny thing to do. Remember that >> at that time, the whole unpacked source was 700k (now: 55M), and there >> was only one documentation file :) > > Also only one develop

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Todd" == Todd Denniston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Todd> Was not the original behavior, to always pop a gentle nudge Todd> reminder in the bar at the bottom of the window indicating Todd> something along the lines "two spaces don't make sense here."? Todd> The current revs [at least since

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Todd Denniston
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: And you can't erase past the beginning of the document, Darren> Now you're being silly. You can't do that in ordinary text Darren> editors either. But LyX is no ordinary text editor. Darren> I'm not talkin

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 12:47 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> would find something there, it was a funny thing to do. Remember >> that at that time, the whole unpacked source was 700k (now: 55M), >> and there was only one doc

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 12:47 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > would find something there, it was a funny thing to do. Remember that > at that time, the whole unpacked source was 700k (now: 55M), and there > was only one documentation file :) Also only one developer, minimum inline documentation

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:00 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> I happen to have LyX 1.3.3 installed on this machine and it does >> not exhibit the behavior you describe. Actually, I think the >> current one was already built-i

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:00 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I happen to have LyX 1.3.3 installed on this machine and it does not > exhibit the behavior you describe. Actually, I think the current one > was already built-in since the first releases of LyX. As someone who > has been around since

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 13:06 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Darren Freeman wrote: It feels more natural to have all my key-presses honoured on the screen. When certain keys are sometimes disabled, it just doesn't feel right. There are lots of limitations lik

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 07:43 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Darren> I'm not talking about a functional change, I'm talking about a Darren> user interface change back to past behaviour that was probably Darren> once considered

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-26 Thread Darren Freeman
s was _not_ past behaviour. An excerpt of a message where another person remembers what I think I remember. Maybe it was just a bug. Anyway I thought it was better. Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can't enter extra whitespace wh

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-25 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> And you can't erase past the beginning of the document, Darren> Now you're being silly. You can't do that in ordinary text Darren> editors either. But LyX is no ordinary text editor. Darren> I'm not talking about a functional chan

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-25 Thread Darren Freeman
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 13:06 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Darren Freeman wrote: > > It feels more natural to have all my key-presses honoured on the screen. > > When certain keys are sometimes disabled, it just doesn't feel right. > > > There are lots of limitations like that. > > You can't use

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-25 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:28 -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Darren Freeman wrote: once upon a time, I could type extra whitespace between words and then it would magically go away when I left that region of text. obviously functional, but what is the appeal

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-24 Thread Darren Freeman
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:28 -0400, Paul A. Rubin wrote: > Darren Freeman wrote: > > once upon a time, I could type extra whitespace between words and then > > it would magically go away when I left that region of text. > obviously functional, but what is the appeal of inserting a space after > a

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Darren Freeman wrote: once upon a time, I could type extra whitespace between words and then it would magically go away when I left that region of text. Now, extra space keypresses have no effect and I feel like I'm in a straight-jacket. I can still insert a space *before* an existing space, be

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Darren Freeman
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 08:27 +1000, Typhoon wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:47:20 +1000 > Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) > > Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my > strongest possible support for

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Typhoon wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:47:20 +1000 Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra white s

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Typhoon
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 08:31:28 +0100 Nick Hopton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a recent message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. > > [...] > >Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in > >my strongest possible support for the existing policy of

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Helge Hafting
Nick Hopton wrote: [...] In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of tables, for example. Perhaps that works on some machines (windows?), min

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Nick Hopton wrote: > In fact you can insert white space that won't be ignored by LaTeX by > inserting the sort of space you get by pressing the Alt-255 key > combination. This can sometimes be useful for fine formatting of tables, > for example. For this, you can use "normal space" (C-M-) or prot

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-21 Thread Nick Hopton
In a recent message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote. [...] Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra white spaces. Allowing extra white space, knowing that it will be w

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-20 Thread Typhoon
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:47:20 +1000 Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) Fair enough, but I wouldn't like to see this pass without putting in my strongest possible support for the existing policy of forbidding extra white spaces. Allowing

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-20 Thread Darren Freeman
(thread continues on lyx-devel to save confusion!) On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:51 +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Darren> My point was that in the past you could enter them and they > Darren> would be removed when you moved away,

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-19 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> My point was that in the past you could enter them and they Darren> would be removed when you moved away, but now you can't enter Darren> them at all. I vote for the older behaviour which feels more Darren> natural. Are you sure

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-19 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 15:58 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Darren Freeman wrote: > > considered it to be anything other than a little colourful. I was > > referring to the heavy-handed policing which LyX is now applying to > > extra white-space and I think I made my point. > > > Removing those sp

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-19 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 12:40 +0200, Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi Darren, don't you think that calling a lyx behaviour 'gestapo behaviour' is inappropriate? I don't think I spent any more than three seconds on it and hadn't considered it to be anything other than a littl

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-18 Thread Hellmut Weber
Hi, LyX-svn as of 2007-06-17 still permits it. Greetings Hellmut Has a recent LyX version eliminated the author's ability to use Ctrl+Spacebar to insert multiple nonbreaking spaces? My 1.4.2 allows it. -- Dr. Hellmut Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Degenfeldstraße 2 tel +49-89-3081

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-18 Thread Hellmut Weber
Hi Darren, thanks for your message ;-) I realised only now that your are living very far from Europe. OTOH as you can see from my signature I'm german, born 1943 and my parents have lived through all of the war (actually two of these, teh first one as little children). In many European countr

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Monday 18 June 2007 08:28, Darren Freeman wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 12:40 +0200, Hellmut Weber wrote: > > Hi Darren, don't you think that calling a lyx behaviour 'gestapo > > behaviour' is inappropriate? > > I don't think I spent any more than three seconds on it and hadn't > considered it

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-18 Thread Darren Freeman
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 12:40 +0200, Hellmut Weber wrote: > Hi Darren, don't you think that calling a lyx behaviour 'gestapo > behaviour' is inappropriate? I don't think I spent any more than three seconds on it and hadn't considered it to be anything other than a little colourful. I was referring

Re: Can't enter extra whitespace when editing.

2007-06-18 Thread Hellmut Weber
Hi Darren, don't you think that calling a lyx behaviour 'gestapo behaviour' is inappropriate? I'll send my mail certainly open to the list, I was just to quick and didn't change the address for my replay. So I send this mail to the list as cc Regards Hellmut Darren Freeman schrieb: Hellmu