Re: www page background

2001-07-05 Thread Allan Rae
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > I'm not picky about this. The only important thing is that author's name > is enclosed in so that font looks right in Netscape 4.x. > > And I agree that these look really lost on the right side. What about: > > p.quote-author { > text-align: rig

Re: www page background

2001-06-25 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 07:17:20PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > I think I've fixed all the points you made. I'm not sure I like the look > of quotes with authors name on the right. It looks lost or at least is > easily missed. I'll put up a page for comparison but for the moment I > have the au

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > There was too much redundant code in the css I sent in the previous > message. And topmenu is a much better name for our new div than > pinmenutop. > > The new css is attached. For markup check: > > http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ >

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
One thing we have to be particularly careful about is Internet Explorer's parsing of XML statements at the top. If I had a say, I would put the guy who wrote IE parser to the pillory so everybody can throw rotten eggs at him. :-) This prologue works in IE: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
There was too much redundant code in the css I sent in the previous message. And topmenu is a much better name for our new div than pinmenutop. The new css is attached. For markup check: http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/indexs.html

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
I forgot to attach pinmenu.css to the previous message but that's fine because I have a solution for the top navbar now. Looks good in Konqueror this time (and Mozilla, Netscape, IE, and Lynx). http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/indext.html Just don't ask me why "width: 99%" and not 100%

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 02:54:21PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:26:34PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > > > in Netscape 4.77 without css the menu is above the text. > > > > And it should be. In Lynx it looks exactly like that. In such cases top > navigation should

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 08:26:34PM +0200, Herbert Voss wrote: > > in Netscape 4.77 without css the menu is above the text. > And it should be. In Lynx it looks exactly like that. In such cases top navigation should be switched on. -- Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cs.wm.edu/~

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Herbert Voss
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > here's the list of issues I've resolved in order of importance: > > 1. pinmenu.css fixed to work in Netscape, Mozilla, Konqueror, IE and >Lynx (wide and short versions). It's attached. See: > > http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ > http://www.cs.w

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
Allan, here's the list of issues I've resolved in order of importance: 1. pinmenu.css fixed to work in Netscape, Mozilla, Konqueror, IE and Lynx (wide and short versions). It's attached. See: http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/index

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 06:46:43PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > I fixed the menu problem. But somehow Netscape-4.77 has decided that it > won't draw the body correctly anymore it now leaves a huge gap between the > sidebar and the body. *sigh* > There's a problem with Netscape 4.x that under some

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 04:31:23PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > Aren't you supposed to be able to do for > multiple inheritance? > Something similar I suppose, but it never worked in Netscape 4.x, so I never use it. One usually can achieve the same with: -- Zvezdan Petkovic <[EM

Re: www page background

2001-06-24 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On the shoulders of giants... > > Wow! I almost have it all working now. > > The menu looks a bit funny at the moment but I think I can fix it... If it's not one dumb thing it's another. I fixed the menu problem. But somehow Netscape-4.77 has decided th

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On the shoulders of giants... Wow! I almost have it all working now. The menu looks a bit funny at the moment but I think I can fix it... I have top menu generation running great -- since it was the old code just cleaned up a bit. The side menu is spaced out a lot for some reason but otherwi

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I can't wait... > > I've started merging already but it'll be a little while before you see > anything on my site. Have to recode the autogenerated menu slightly. > > I might make a second menu class for the short title case and remove the > option of a top

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 03:11:04PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > > In opera it looks ... wrong :) There's a screenshot up at > > > www.koziarski.org/LyX. Looks good in mozilla. > > > > Try it again

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 03:11:04PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > In opera it looks ... wrong :) There's a screenshot up at > > www.koziarski.org/LyX. Looks good in mozilla. > > Try it again please. I do not have Opera. I fixed width of pinmen

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Koziarski
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 11:26:06PM -0400 or thereabouts, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 03:11:04PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > In opera it looks ... wrong :) There's a screenshot up at > > www.koziarski.org/LyX. Looks good in mozilla. > > Try it again please. I do not

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 03:11:04PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > In opera it looks ... wrong :) There's a screenshot up at > www.koziarski.org/LyX. Looks good in mozilla. Try it again please. I do not have Opera. I fixed width of pinmenu to 12em. I had the same problem with Mozilla and righ

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Koziarski
> I have made a page that uses instead of for layout. Take a > look at: http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ In opera it looks ... wrong :) There's a screenshot up at www.koziarski.org/LyX. Looks good in mozilla. Unfortunately the menu doesn't look right without css. There must be a

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
Allan, I think I know what's the cause of most of the problems we had with Netscape's understanding of CSS. is just the nastiest manifestation of it. Namely, we use for the layout purposes. That is something we had to do before, but with CSS there are other ways. W3C guys openly encourage chan

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > Now to make it work. Anyone want to guess what Netscape might prefer in > the way of XHTML blockquotes etc.? With XHTML-strict or XHTML-Transitional put anywhere in an LDN webpage the following line: crash netscape or try this valid variation:

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I haven't figured out what Netscape doesn't like yet :( Well when you sit down and spend 5 uninterrupted seconds thnking about it the answer is obvious. Netscape hates QOTM -- Quote of the Month. This was also the biggest change I made between older work

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > > I switched back to XHTML-Transitional but Netscape still isn't rendering > > all the valid LDNs :( > > Even better I can now crash Netscape by going to any three consecutive > LDNs using the "Next" or "Previous" nav

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I switched back to XHTML-Transitional but Netscape still isn't rendering > all the valid LDNs :( Even better I can now crash Netscape by going to any three consecutive LDNs using the "Next" or "Previous" navbar entries! Pretty cool hey! I suspect I've do

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > Take a look at: > > http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/ > > I've switched to XHTML1-strict and started refining some of the CSS black > magic -- I'm making it up as I go along based on what the DTD's say is > okay. If that works okay then I'll be

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Michael Koziarski
> Take a look at: > > http://www.devel.lyx.org/~rae/www-user/ I like it :) The navigation bar and the links don't look right but I *really* like the new background colour. > I've switched to XHTML1-strict XHTML Strict is good, I just used transitional to allow http://www.koziarski.co

Re: www page background

2001-06-23 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I'd kind of like to make use of the blue from our existing banner but I'm > not sure I want a screen full of it and then we have the poblem of what > colour looks good as foreground on it. But then there are also > colour-blindness or discernment/contrast

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread Garst R. Reese
Allan Rae wrote: > > I'd prefer a solid colour under the text so we can actually read it -- and > people with poor eyesight don't have to struggle so much. > > Allan. (ARRae) When I clear my cache and load the lyx page it comes up solid green and then takes some time to lay in the texture. It's

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:45:11PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > What would like to see? > > I'm happy to leave the background but set a solid fill colour for the > tables -- something I did for my own LyX page but then I'd like to pinch > some of those other ideas from windowmaker and bbkeys website

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread Michael Koziarski
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 03:34:25AM +0100 or thereabouts, John Levon wrote: > > I'm wearing asbestos ... > > ... can we replace the lyx www background ? It's /so/ 1994 ;) I'm all for it. I'm just glad someone else said it first :) > regards, > john > > a change of colour scheme would be prett

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 01:08:33PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > We can still easily make the design distinctive with a nice colour scheme. > > Suggestions? errr... > I'd kind of like to make use of the blue from our existing banner but I'm > not sure I want a screen full of it and then we have

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: [...] > I'd prefer a solid colour background everywhere (think the sites you pointed out, > for example) i.e. no background pictures. > > But I agree the primary thing is solid under text (your lyx site is perfectly > readable). > > We can still easily make

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread John Levon
On Sat, Jun 23, 2001 at 12:45:11PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > ... can we replace the lyx www background ? It's /so/ 1994 ;) > [...] > > a change of colour scheme would be pretty cool too IMHO > > What would like to see? > > I'm happy to leave the background but set a solid fill colour for the

Re: www page background

2001-06-22 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, John Levon wrote: > I'm wearing asbestos ... > > ... can we replace the lyx www background ? It's /so/ 1994 ;) [...] > a change of colour scheme would be pretty cool too IMHO What would like to see? I'm happy to leave the background but set a solid fill colour for the table

www page background

2001-06-22 Thread John Levon
I'm wearing asbestos ... ... can we replace the lyx www background ? It's /so/ 1994 ;) regards, john a change of colour scheme would be pretty cool too IMHO -- "Euler's equation contains the five most important numbers in mathematics."