Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-24 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | This is a matter what we really want to do. If we want eventually XHTML | strict conformance (which I would recommend), Me too. If possible we should move to strict conformance at once. -- Lgb

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-22 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Fri, Jun 22, 2001 at 07:05:55PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > I made the changes you suggested and Netscape still shows the sponsors > line in black. Opera shows it in white. I'm using Zvezdan's lyx.css > which differs in only one line from Michael's. > I see it in white in Netscape. The onl

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-22 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 07:12:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > > I don't know what's changed since yesterday but I now see both at your > > site and at my work area with your patch applied that netscape 4.77 > > Communicator renders the two screenshots

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
I got it. I apologise to everybody who feels insulted by my impatient reply. Best regards, -- Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | No, I don't. But we sometimes react in a way that's not the best. I hope | you do that much less often than I do. If you follow carefully that | thread, you'll see yourself how many times I pointed out some things. | That might make you understand wh

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 09:03:55PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > spare us... > > Do you really believe this attitude is the right way to get your voice > heard? > > -- > Lgb No, I don't. But we sometimes react in a way that's not the best. I hope you do that much less often than

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | You take that work, and than play Smart Alec and screw up everything | because you do not understand the difference between the block and | inline element (and some other things about CSS)! All you need to do is | pickup the CSS, implement the XHTML

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 07:12:35PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote: > I don't know what's changed since yesterday but I now see both at your > site and at my work area with your patch applied that netscape 4.77 > Communicator renders the two screenshots over the top of the last > section of text on the mai

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Michael Koziarski wrote: > The patch for www-user is done and is available at: > > http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/ I don't know what's changed since yesterday but I now see both at your site and at my work area with your patch applied that netscape 4.77 Communicator renders th

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-21 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, Allan Rae wrote: > I'll fetch the new www-user and look it over -- I'll try to get it applied > tonight. CVS lists lyx.css, imgs and images/line.gif as unknown files or directories. I can retrieve these direct from your website. There is an unresolved conflict in site_map.

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-20 Thread Allan Rae
On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Michael Koziarski wrote: > The patch for www-user is done and is available at: > > http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/ > > The www-devel patch is an old one. Once we have the patch committed > I'll start the work on changing over www-devel. it should be pretty So you want _both

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Koziarski
The patch for www-user is done and is available at: http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/ The www-devel patch is an old one. Once we have the patch committed I'll start the work on changing over www-devel. it should be pretty trivial work. Also, once the patch has been applied I'll set a recursing v

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-19 Thread Allan Rae
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Michael Koziarski wrote: > I'm running a Dimensional Data Warehousing training course this week > and will be a bit short on time. However I should be able to prepare > something by Friday 5pm (NZST). Actually, sometime Friday night or even Saturday morning would still be o

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-19 Thread Allan Rae
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > Remember to 'cvs update -dP' first as I've made a couple of small fixes to > > get the ccp2000 logo visible on all pages. > > I'm running a Dimensional Data Warehousing training course this week > and will be a bit short on time. However I should

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-19 Thread Michael Koziarski
> Remember to 'cvs update -dP' first as I've made a couple of small fixes to > get the ccp2000 logo visible on all pages. I'm running a Dimensional Data Warehousing training course this week and will be a bit short on time. However I should be able to prepare something by Friday 5pm (NZST). I'v

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-18 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Michael Koziarski wrote: > The next attempt at a css based LyX webpage is up at > > http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/www-user/ Looks good. > TODO > > 1) Insert font-metrics based on em measurement (not many to do, just a >few things like table formatting etc.) > > 2) Test i

RE: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-18 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 16-Jun-2001 Michael Koziarski wrote: > 2) Test in many different browsers I tested the entry page with: - Netscape 4.77 (Linux) - Opera 5 (Linux) - Konquerer (Linux) - Mozilla (Linux) - IE 5.x (Win98) and - Lynx (Linux) All of them display it perfectly! I guess you and Zvezdan did a really

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Michael Koziarski
> I still see the black screen on your site at the download. I downloaded > your CSS and it has that problematic double assignment of > colour/background to body element. I'm sending the correct css as an > attachment. Odd, I just ran wget http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/lyx.css. It m

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 07:44:47PM +0200, Marcello Nuccio wrote: > just suspect because i remember that putting: > > > >"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd";> > > at the top of the file makes it completely broken in IE5.x. > Rereading your mail, I guess i

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Marcello Nuccio
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:57:49AM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:43:57PM +0200, Marcello Nuccio wrote: > > > > > > and this after !DOCTYPE > > > > > > > I cannot verify (I don't have Windows on my PCs), but I'm quite sure > > that Explorer5.x is badly conf

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Garst R. Reese
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > and fix them. Please check again: > > http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ Very nice! Fast. Thanks, Garst

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 08:52:31PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > > I did all the changes. Please, download my lyx.css again. > > The only remaining warning > > Done. > I still see the black screen on your site at the download. I downloaded your CSS and it has that problematic double ass

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:43:57PM +0200, Marcello Nuccio wrote: > > > > > and this after !DOCTYPE > > > > > > I cannot verify (I don't have Windows on my PCs), but I'm quite sure > that Explorer5.x is badly confused by this. I suggest you to check

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Marcello Nuccio
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 07:55:19PM -0400, Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > I also had to add this as the first line: > > > and this after !DOCTYPE > > > > to enable validation. It validates as clean CSS and XHTML! I cannot verify (I dont have Windows on

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
There is a nice way to centre the screenshot images. Add to lyx.css: .center { text-indent: 0; text-align: center; margin-left: 0% } and in index.html surround the images with I tested it in Netscape, Mozilla, and Konqueror. -- Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PR

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-17 Thread Michael Koziarski
> I did all the changes. Please, download my lyx.css again. > The only remaining warning Done. -- | Michael Koziarski |"Conventional wisdom is often | | BCA/BSc Student, OpenBSD/Linux user | long on

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 09:49:29PM -0300, Garst R. Reese wrote: > Well guys, it is real pretty, but a lot slower than the pre-css pages. > I personally like web pages that display instantly, provide basic info > and links. > Garst Thanks Garst. This shows that warnings should be considered errors

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Koziarski
> It was the same from Zevzdan's site. > There is a black background for a time then the green lyx. Both could be > slow to download though. > Garst I've noticed the problem with the background image too. Currently you're downloading all the images and HTML/css from www.koziarski.org and the bac

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 01:03:40PM +1200, Michael Koziarski wrote: > > > 3. Valid XHTML image was not fully transparent. I made it transparent > >using GIMP. Pick up the version from the above Web page and use it on > >LyX site. > > The images are straight from the w3c. Perhaps you shou

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Garst R. Reese
Michael Koziarski wrote: > > > Well guys, it is real pretty, but a lot slower than the pre-css pages. > > I personally like web pages that display instantly, provide basic info > > and links. > > Slow to render or slow to download? www.koziarski.org is hosted in NZ > which is probably extremely

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Koziarski
> Well guys, it is real pretty, but a lot slower than the pre-css pages. > I personally like web pages that display instantly, provide basic info > and links. Slow to render or slow to download? www.koziarski.org is hosted in NZ which is probably extremely slow for any american or european visito

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Koziarski
> I have to curmudgeon again about the Web site. What can I do when I'm > perfectionist and I know it can be done! What people want to see is at > http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ Great! :) I appreciate these pointers, I've been doing Data Warehousing and OLAP for too long, my web sk

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Garst R. Reese
Zvezdan Petkovic wrote: > > I also had to add this as the first line: > > > and this after !DOCTYPE > > > > to enable validation. It validates as clean CSS and XHTML! > > I also put the margins back on h1 only. > > All the best. > > Zvezdan > > -- > Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL P

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
I also had to add this as the first line: and this after !DOCTYPE to enable validation. It validates as clean CSS and XHTML! I also put the margins back on h1 only. All the best. Zvezdan -- Zvezdan Petkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.c

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Zvezdan Petkovic
Hi Michael and others, I have to curmudgeon again about the Web site. What can I do when I'm perfectionist and I know it can be done! What people want to see is at http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/LyX/www-user/ The following changes were made: 1. The line in index.html http://validator...

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Michael Koziarski
> > only an idea ... > > change the following first line (image is attached) > > without css the menu is not so good seperated from the text. Done > One small point. You should remove the CSS image from the bottom of the > non-CSS version! and done > Angus > -- ===

Re: www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-16 Thread Angus Leeming
On Saturday 16 June 2001 07:02, Herbert Voss wrote: > Michael Koziarski wrote: > > > > The next attempt at a css based LyX webpage is up at > > > > http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/www-user/ > > only an idea ... > change the following first line (image is attached) > without css the menu is not so

www-user(css) version 2.0

2001-06-15 Thread Michael Koziarski
The next attempt at a css based LyX webpage is up at http://www.koziarski.org/LyX/www-user/ Changes 1) Should render better in Netscape 4.x 2) Cleaned up css structure 3) Removed inconsistent uses of px, pt etc for font metrics 4) A few XHTML changes. (1,2,3 suggested by Zvezdan Petkovic Tha