Re: working example

2000-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> It is not a complicated thing. I'm sure you will be able to Asger> figure out how to do it in half an hour. You mean that you want _me_ to do it? Ha! Asger> I'm not fanatic, and I don't think this problem is such a big

Re: catcode magic for file anmes with space (Was: Re: working example)

2000-07-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > While routine use of catcode magic counts as brain damage, all spaces take is | > teeling TeX that space is a letter or other character. the scope of which can | > be bracketed by a group. For example one could write | > | > {\aftergro

Re: catcode magic for file anmes with space (Was: Re: working example)

2000-07-01 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> While routine use of catcode magic counts as brain damage, all spaces take is > teeling TeX that space is a letter or other character. the scope of which can > be bracketed by a group. For example one could write > > {\aftergroup\input\catcode` =12\aftergroup{File name with spaces}} We shoul

Re: working example

2000-07-01 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> Most applications keep a "recently used files" list (meaning that LyX > should update its own list...). Remember that you want to code this > feature for really dumb users (who can't rename themselves). So any > small glitch in other applications is a big problem for them. There will not be any

catcode magic for file anmes with space (Was: Re: working example)

2000-06-30 Thread Duncan Simpson
While routine use of catcode magic counts as brain damage, all spaces take is teeling TeX that space is a letter or other character. the scope of which can be bracketed by a group. For example one could write {\aftergroup\input\catcode` =12\aftergroup{File name with spaces}} which works becau

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That's what a windows application would do. And then this will >> break many other applications which work in the same directory. Asger> No. It will only break applications with that rely on Asger> directories names not to c

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> That's what a windows application would do. And then this will break > many other applications which work in the same directory. No. It will only break applications with that rely on directories names not to change. Which applications require this? For sure, LyX does not. > You should now t

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Duncan" == Duncan Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Duncan> If LyX is going to detect and do special magic to deal with Duncan> file names with natsty character like spaces in them, then the Duncan> current suggestions are IMHO the wrong thing. File names with Duncan> spaces, and practic

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't lyx work from a temporary Angus> directory? Why not create sym-links in this temporary directory Angus> to all include/accessed/used files and then do the export to Angus> TeX etc also in the tmp

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> | What's wrong with offering to rename the directory? >> >> That you suddenly might break all the other programs that used this >> dir without your knowledge? As

Re: working example

2000-06-30 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> "Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > present). Lars> Won't this always work irrespective of the names given by the Lars> user ro | > his files? | | I use: | | \use_tempdir false | | So, Lars> no. It's not guarante

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Duncan Simpson
If LyX is going to detect and do special magic to deal with file names with natsty character like spaces in them, then the current suggestions are IMHO the wrong thing. File names with spaces, and practically anything else, can be made to work with catcode magic (see the TeXbook). While it wo

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | What's wrong with offering to rename the directory? > > That you suddenly might break all the other programs that used this > dir without your knowledge? As long as it is the choice of the user, I don't see the problem. To make t

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread edscott
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: [Spaces in directories] > > > I do not like the linking idea, since it's not portable. > I was wondering how that was going to work when someone compiled LyX to run on a wind*ws machine with an x-emulator or the sort. > However, a dialog th

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | What's wrong with offering to rename the directory? That you suddenly might break all the other programs that used this dir without your knowledge? Lgb

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Kayvan A. Sylvan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > present). Won't this always work irrespective of the names given by the user ro | > his files? | | I use: | | \use_tempdir false | | So, no. It's not guaranteed that LyX works in a temp directory. And if we do it right we can remove that swit

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
I wrote: > Asger> the user is in order. Potentially, it could even offer to do > Asger> the renaming for the user. Jean-Marc was pissed: > and LyX renames "Work Dir" to "Work_Dir" behind my back, I will be > really pissed off, I think Please read what I wrote, before you are pissed off. To help

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
> > Forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't lyx work from a temporary directory? Why > not create sym-links in this temporary directory to all include/accessed/used > files and then do the export to TeX etc also in the tmp directory (as at > present). Won't this always work irrespective of the names

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Forgive me if I'm wrong, but doesn't lyx work from a temporary directory? Why | not create sym-links in this temporary directory to all include/accessed/used | files and then do the export to TeX etc also in the tmp directory (as at | present). Won't th

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Angus Leeming
JMarc> Asger> [Directory with spaces in them] However, a dialog that warned JMarc> Asger> the user is in order. Potentially, it could even offer to do JMarc> Asger> the renaming for the user. JMarc> >> Rename the directory? What a strange idea... JMarc> Asger> What's strange about that? JMarc>

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> [Directory with spaces in them] However, a dialog that warned Asger> the user is in order. Potentially, it could even offer to do Asger> the renaming for the user. >> Rename the directory? What a strange idea... Asger>

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
[Directory with spaces in them] > Asger> However, a dialog that warned the user is in order. > Asger> Potentially, it could even offer to do the renaming for the > Asger> user. > > Rename the directory? What a strange idea... What's strange about that? Is the file system a sacred thing that we

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> "Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I do not Lars> like the linking idea, since it's not portable. Lars> "linking" is portable if you create the link every time you need Lars> access to that file. Then for

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I do not like the linking idea, since it's not portable. "linking" is portable if you create the link every time you need access to that file. Then for fs's that supports symbolic links use that, hardlinks use that, copy the file use that.

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> [Spaces in directories] Since it's "only" LaTeX that can't Asger> handle this, we should not disallow spaces in directories in Asger> general. For instance, it's entirely possible that DocBook Asger> handles spaces perfec

Re: working example

2000-06-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
[Spaces in directories] Since it's "only" LaTeX that can't handle this, we should not disallow spaces in directories in general. For instance, it's entirely possible that DocBook handles spaces perfectly. Therefore, any measures to circumvent or diagnose the problem should be specific to the tool

working example

2000-06-28 Thread edscott
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "edscott" == edscott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > edscott> What does occur in 1.1.4 (and repeats itself in 1.1.5) is > edscott> that input files which reside in directories with spaces > edscott> (like: /blabla/blabla/chapter 1) will confu