Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2011-07-25, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>
> > Independent of all your points, LyX should be designed for the average
> > user. And he doesn't know the LaTeX internals. LyX was once invented to
> > keep the LaTeX fiddling away from the users and this should be our aim
> > also for th
Am 25.07.2011 22:13, schrieb Guenter Milde:
My solution also required TeX Code and as Richard and Jürgen correctly
stated, we cannot avoid that because this would be a fileformat change.
I'm therefore opting to remove the module and reintroduce it for LyX
2.1 when InsetLayout supports arguments
On 22. juli 2011 22:41, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
[...]
Yes, that is sadly true. There are too many distributions of Linux and
Unix. I once tested out Fragalware and also Ubuntu and these two distros
had a completely different package managing system and also its LaTeX
implementation were different. I've
On 2011-07-25, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Am 23.07.2011 18:01, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
> Independent of all your points, LyX should be designed for the average
> user. And he doesn't know the LaTeX internals. LyX was once invented to
> keep the LaTeX fiddling away from the users and this should be our aim
>
Am 23.07.2011 18:01, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
this is deeper and almost philosophical disputation about the open source
model. until we want to turn this into software business i don't think your
points hold.
1. the basic fact of "real life" is that lyx and this community exists.
2. it continues to
Am 23.07.2011 10:49, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
Initially I thought that I got confused, but it seems not. I've just
played with LyX-2.0.0-3-Installer-Bundle.exe under wine and the
default setting for MiKTeX on-the-fly installation is well 'Ask me
first' (see attached shot). My vote is for switchin
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Sometimes I'm really close to stop working for LyX. I'm frustrated that we
> don't focus on real life. Real life means for me that a student coming from
> school to the university has to write his first internship report. He will
> not know computer internals, knows perhaps a
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Julien Rioux
wrote:
> Great observation. Just like you, it also frustrates me to have to click
> yes/no a number of times, with several minutes inbetween each requests to
> the user, as packages are being downloaded one-by-one. However, it would
> frustrate me even
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> This is true only in part. It doesn't hold if 'Install on-the-fly' is
>> set to 'No', and it can backfire when set to 'Ask'.
>
> The LyX for Windows installer therefore sets it automatically to 'Install
> on-the-fly'.
>
>> I have recently instal
Am 20.07.2011 22:32, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
yes, we are from different worlds. i read documentation exceptionaly and
most of my know-how of software comes from playing with trial and error.
thus the two hints inside the module are quite enough for user like me :)
in the same vein i'm not way too m
Am 20.07.2011 20:25, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
what is written in the paragraphs around above shows that you have little idea
how
things are done except of the windows pond. texlive creature is way too big to
be installed and splitting it into parts where advanced parts are installed on
administrato
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> moreover there is no intuitive way how to typeset big initial without
>> reading manual where special construct needs to be learned.
>> the charstyle path is not clean, but for the basic usage works without any
>> need
>> to read manual pages.
>
> What do you expect? No style i
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> It is impossible to take care about every OS. For MiKTeX, MacTeX/TeXLive
> there is no problem and TeXLive works on all platforms.
>
> In your Linux distro, the package might be tricky to install in another
> distro it is not tricky. What is a common package in your distro migh
On 20/07/2011 1:35 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Am 20.07.2011 18:55, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing
LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and
its
modules
On 20/07/2011 12:55 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
modules and can work offline for the future.
T
Am 20.07.2011 18:55, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
modules and can work offline for the future.
T
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
> you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
> modules and can work offline for the future.
>
This is true only in part. It doesn't hold i
Am 20.07.2011 12:08, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
This is funny when we see the code we had to add to adapt to miktex quirks
(like checking for
packages in configure.py just to let miktex install them).
(MiKTeX is just one of the various LaTeX distros but one of the most used one as it is mo
Le 20/07/2011 06:26, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Am 20.07.2011 03:45, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
on many linux distros latex is divided on the basic packages and extra
sets for advanced usage only - not installed by default and without
any automatical setup on request like miktex on windows do.
It is imposs
Am 20.07.2011 06:06, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
Attached is an example where you get a LaTeX error.
Here it is.
regards Uwe
newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx
Am 20.07.2011 03:45, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Our manuals have to describe what you can do with LyX. There is no other
way. It might always be possible that our docs are uncompilable. We cannot
control what LaTeX-packages are installed on a system. Or where do you want
to set the
Am 20.07.2011 03:32, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
I now wrote its documentation from scratch and saw that your module did not
work.
it depends what you mean by "works". if you just insert charstyle push character
there and start writing after charstyle inset it 'just works' (at least here).
By chanc
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Our manuals have to describe what you can do with LyX. There is no other
> way. It might always be possible that our docs are uncompilable. We cannot
> control what LaTeX-packages are installed on a system. Or where do you want
> to set the line?
i dont have any fixed rule bu
... so i returned to this ...
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> I now wrote its documentation from scratch and saw that your module did not
> work.
it depends what you mean by "works". if you just insert charstyle push character
there and start writing after charstyle inset it 'just works' (at least here).
you
Am 20.07.2011 00:02, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
Of course don't forget to doublecheck that it works (it is in 2.0 too).
I always compile every file as PDF before committing. This should btw. the
default procedure.
(The only exception are the Japanese files because I don't have ptex.)
rega
Le 19/07/11 19:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
PS: BTW Uwe, did you see my messages about the \LyX macro? Since
r37164 it is robust under hyperref
and it is not necessary to redefine it in preamble.
Not yes. Thanks for the hint, I'll remove the corresponding preamble
code now.
Of course don't forget
Am 19.07.2011 12:11, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
PS: BTW Uwe, did you see my messages about the \LyX macro? Since r37164 it is
robust under hyperref
and it is not necessary to redefine it in preamble.
Not yes. Thanks for the hint, I'll remove the corresponding preamble code now.
regards Uw
Am 19.07.2011 11:55, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
in the page http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 there was the icon that the
initial module is documented. Where is it, I cannot find it?
i put the tickmark of documented feature when the module description inside
settings
dialog is enough to grab all i
Le 19/07/2011 11:55, Pavel Sanda a écrit :
as sidecomment i dont think that adding specific features which pull extra
packages into our manuals is a healthy thing. they are not compilable on
various situations then and produce strange errors like when we added mchem
notion into math manual and in
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
>
> in the page http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 there was the icon that the
> initial module is documented. Where is it, I cannot find it?
i put the tickmark of documented feature when the module description inside
settings
dialog is enough to grab all information
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