Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-25 Thread Pavel Sanda
Paul A. Rubin wrote: > On 07/24/2017 05:39 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > but Adobe Reader 9.5.5 is available for Ubuntu, Linux Mint, and maybe some > other Debian-based distributions. I assume it's not the latest version of > Reader, but it's fine for my purposes (which, admittedly, do not include > CA

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-25 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 24/07/2017 ?? 14:18, mn a écrit : >> ??? Simplify UserGuide in regard to dependencies > > Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good reason > why it is not in the main texlive distribution. Ironically it was Uwe who disagreed to make User

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Paul A. Rubin
On 07/24/2017 05:39 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Next thing was to read at least 3D PDFs generated by CAD programs. Then I found out that only the abandoned Adobe reader can do this. I don't recall if anyone mentioned this (the thread is getting a bit long), but Adobe Reader 9.5.5 is available for Ubu

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 24/07/2017 23:39, Uwe Stöhr wrote: One of my daily work is CAD and common programs like Solidworks are not available under Linux: https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/90517 The only program I found so far is VariCAD: http://www.varicad.com/en/home/products/download/ now I see your point, if

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
El 24.07.2017 a las 17:14, Tommaso Cucinotta escribió: I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. Just a couple of well-known names... As a new user I tried bit by bit if things that worked under Windows do under Linux as well. I just noted that many non-free p

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
El 24.07.2017 a las 14:37, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes escribió: Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. The UserGuide is not designed to cover special interests but to show what LyX can do. It is up to the users to

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
El 24.07.2017 a las 12:14, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes escribió: Indeed Adobe Reader for Linux has been abandoned. Personnally I do not regret it and I always install SumatraPDF on windows. I construct parts with 3D CAD. therefore I need a PDF program to view 3D PDFs. Sumatra cannot handle it, Evinc

Re: Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Le 24/07/2017 à 16:21, Guenter Milde a écrit : On 2017-07-24, Uwe Stöhr wrote: My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. The distribution is not the question. It is, as with Debian or Ubuntu, you would have had a working LyX

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 24/07/2017 à 17:23, Tommaso Cucinotta a écrit : Ubuntu way, AFAIK: -) Depends means LyX would be totally broken without them, e.g., you wouldn't be able to launch LyX, thus there's no way to install LyX without its dependencies, unless you're an advanced user, you know what you're doing, yo

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 24/07/2017 16:24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I am not sure what the difference between recommend and require is in practice. Could you expand on that? Ubuntu way, AFAIK: -) Depends means LyX would be totally broken without them, e.g., you wouldn't be able to launch LyX, thus there's no wa

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 24/07/2017 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" wrote: I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. Just a couple of well-known names... https://www.redhat.com/en/store/linux-platforms https://buy.ubuntu.com/?_ga=2.96387035.693003821.1500908991-595300039.1443300335 https:/

Re: Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2017-07-24, Uwe Stöhr wrote: >> My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' >> distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. > The distribution is not the question. It is, as with Debian or Ubuntu, you would have had a working LyX out of the box. > The point is that users s

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 24/07/2017 à 16:16, Guenter Milde a écrit : As under Debian, LyX "recommends" this package (it is installed by default if you install LyX), the UserGuide compiles out of the box with an default install. I am not sure what the difference between recommend and require is in practice. Could yo

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Guenter Milde
On 2017-07-24, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 24/07/2017 à 14:18, mn a écrit : >> – Simplify UserGuide in regard to dependencies > Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good > reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. Enumitem is in texlive. It is, howe

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 24/07/2017 à 14:18, mn a écrit : – Simplify UserGuide in regard to dependencies Indeed. Personally, I never use enumitem :) There is probably a good reason why it is not in the main texlive distribution. JMarc

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread mn
On 24.07.17 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" wrote: >> back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to >> simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for >> installing additional packages besides a minimal latex >> installation > > The point is that almost nothing works out of

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 24/07/2017 à 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" a écrit : Hmm, that is very bad. I think that explains why software companies don't offer Linux versions. (I saw yesterday that there are no longer Skype, Adobe Reader and other useful programs on Linux.) Indeed Adobe Reader for Linux has been abandoned. Per

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Michael Berger
Am 24.07.2017 um 10:30 schrieb "Uwe Stöhr": back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for installing additional packages besides a minimal latex installation The point is that almost nothing works out of the

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 24/07/2017 à 10:30, "Uwe Stöhr" a écrit : The point is that almost nothing works out of the box. Not simple documents, not the tutorial. Because only texlive-bin package is installed together with LyX. I will report to the packagers that they should add more texlive packages to the install

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> back to the UserGuide, perhaps what we could actually do is, to simplify the UserGuide so that it can compile without the need for installing additional packages besides a minimal latex installation The point is that almost nothing works out of the box. Not simple documents, not the tutorial.

Aw: Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Uwe Stöhr
> My advice to new Linux folks is always to start with a 'mainstream' > distribution. I.e., start with Ubuntu. The distribution is not the question. Although I can recommend Manjaro because I got a new OS after just an hour and everything worked out of the box (booting, hardware and software) an

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 24/07/2017 08:16, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: One of the first steps was of course to try out LyX. Unfortunately I could not compile the UserGuide because of the missing package enumitem. I wanted to install it but cannot find it. there is also no texlive program to start to install the missing

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-24 Thread Tommaso Cucinotta
On 24/07/2017 04:59, Paul A. Rubin wrote: BTW, you can download a bootable version of Mint to a USB memory stick and run it from the stick, to see if everything works (in particular, all peripheral devices). If you like it, you can install from the stick. I'm not sure if the equivalent is avai

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-23 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Sonntag, den 23.07.2017, 23:28 +0200 schrieb Uwe Stöhr: > Since more than a decade I help to develop LyX on Windows. After > being > forced to buy a new Laptop with a preinstalled Win 10 I was so > annoyed > by Win 10 that I gave Linux a try. > > I did not know what to take and stumbled over:

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin
On 07/23/2017 09:43 PM, Richard Heck wrote: Paul's advice is all on the mark, Accidents will happen. :-) but I'm guessing you don't want those complexities. So use Ubuntu. Or Linux Mint (which is what I use). I've seen more than one person opine that Mint is the closest distribution to Wind

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-23 Thread Richard Heck
On 07/23/2017 05:28 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Since more than a decade I help to develop LyX on Windows. After being > forced to buy a new Laptop with a preinstalled Win 10 I was so annoyed > by Win 10 that I gave Linux a try. > > I did not know what to take and stumbled over: > https://distrochooser.

Re: short report from LyX under Linux

2017-07-23 Thread Paul A. Rubin
On 07/23/2017 05:28 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote: One of the first steps was of course to try out LyX. Unfortunately I could not compile the UserGuide because of the missing package enumitem. I wanted to install it but cannot find it. there is also no texlive program to start to install the missing p