Also sprach John Levon:
> > This is until you have tried it two times, then you know.
>
> You mean you've somehow memorised whether the database you want is on
> the list?
Sure. I know that I need the list only, because I use BIBINPUTS.
But I talked about the knowledge of what the buttons do.
Aft
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:27:00PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> > You can't easily make the decision on which button to press until after
> > you've pressed it and found out.
>
> This is until you have tried it two times, then you know.
You mean you've somehow memorised whether the datab
> With the current solution, you are forced to hit two buttons
> to get to the file dialog every time.
and after that you need to select the database from a list and add it
the learning curve with 2 buttons doesn't seem very steep to me
John Levon wrote:
> You can't easily make the decision on which button to press until after
> you've pressed it and found out.
This is until you have tried it two times, then you know. With the current
solution, you are forced to hit two buttons to get to the file dialog every
time. Knowledge do
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:21:17PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> John Levon wrote:
> > This sounds worse than it is now...
>
> Why actually?
You can't easily make the decision on which button to press until after
you've pressed it and found out.
regards
john
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 02:40:27PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> I hate to be a PITA, but I'm not convinced. Look, I have currently more than
> 100 bib files in that list (lots from the TeXLive distribution, and my own).
> Checking which one are selected would be difficult. There must be
John Levon wrote:
> This sounds worse than it is now...
Why actually?
Jürgen
Also sprach Leuven, E.:
> and you care about all 100?
No. But the list of those I care about is evergrowing.
> sound like an exceptional situation
Not exceptional for people that use a full TeXLive installation (quite a few I
guess).
> > Checking which one are selected would be difficult. Ther
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 03:10:13PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> > Checking which one are selected would be difficult. There
> > must be a solution where only the selected databases are
> > visible (I would be fine with a "show only selected" toggle
> > or somesuch).
>
> what about having *two* butt
> I hate to be a PITA,
sure ;-)
> but I'm not convinced. Look, I have currently more
> than 100 bib files in that list (lots from the TeXLive
> distribution, and my own).
and you care about all 100?
sound like an exceptional situation
> Checking which one are selected would be difficult. Ther
John Levon wrote:
> It's too confusing.
people would get used to it.
> How about a multi-selection list box showing all the found bibtex's by
> default. A "Browse..." button would do the browsing
I hate to be a PITA, but I'm not convinced. Look, I have currently more than
100 bib files in that
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 01:45:47PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> > How about a multi-selection list box showing all the found
> > bibtex's by default. A "Browse..." button would do the browsing:
>
> i like this much better
>
> (would checkboxes be clearer than highlighted items?)
I don't think so
John Levon a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:12:06PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
I think the best solution is probably, as Abdel recommended, to have two
buttons instead of one in the bibtex dialog: "Browse" (through directory) and
"Select" (from the bst file list).
It's too confus
> How about a multi-selection list box showing all the found
> bibtex's by default. A "Browse..." button would do the browsing:
so this gets rid of the 2nd dialog and shows in the list box the databases that
are selected
i like this much better
(would checkboxes be clearer than highlighted item
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:12:06PM +0100, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> I think the best solution is probably, as Abdel recommended, to have two
> buttons instead of one in the bibtex dialog: "Browse" (through directory) and
> "Select" (from the bst file list).
It's too confusing.
How about a
Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
shortcut to the root directory of the bibtex bib tree in the filedialog
+ stripping of directories if the database is located there
would solve some of these problems?
This is a good compromise IMHO. And it would educate the user at wher
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> > shortcut to the root directory of the bibtex bib tree in the filedialog
> >
> > + stripping of directories if the database is located there
> >
> > would solve some of these problems?
>
> This is a good compromise IMHO. And it would educate the user at where
> to put th
Also sprach Leuven, E.:
> shortcut to the root directory of the bibtex bib tree in the filedialog
> + stripping of directories if the database is located there
> would solve some of these problems?
No. I don't want to browse there. I want to select my files instantly. LaTeX
provides the feature o
Leuven, E. a écrit :
shortcut to the root directory of the bibtex bib tree in the filedialog
+ stripping of directories if the database is located there
would solve some of these problems?
This is a good compromise IMHO. And it would educate the user at where
to put these bib file in the f
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Subject: Re: qt4: remove (2nd) add dialog in add bib tex ref dialog
Leuven, E. wrote:
> what is wrong with a simple dialog + an add... push button that pops up a
> filedialog?
>
> who cares if you need to traverse a couple of directories to find the bib
> file?
As
Leuven, E. wrote:
> what is wrong with a simple dialog + an add... push button that pops up a
> filedialog?
>
> who cares if you need to traverse a couple of directories to find the bib
> file?
As Georg wrote, it is conceptually wrong, since LaTeX has a PATH for bibtex
files. I admit that lots of
> That is not the main problem IMHO. The main problem is that LyX is
> currently smart enough to find all .bib files that are available
> somewhere in the texmf tree. I certainly don't want to enter the full
> path to a .bib file that I put in my texmf tree in order to be
> accessible without path.
Georg Baum a écrit :
Leuven, E. wrote:
what is wrong with a simple dialog + an add... push button that pops up a
filedialog?
who cares if you need to traverse a couple of directories to find the bib
file?
That is not the main problem IMHO. The main problem is that LyX is currently
smart enou
Leuven, E. wrote:
> what is wrong with a simple dialog + an add... push button that pops up a
> filedialog?
>
> who cares if you need to traverse a couple of directories to find the bib
> file?
That is not the main problem IMHO. The main problem is that LyX is currently
smart enough to find all
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> So should we put the handling of multiple bibtex database
Abdelrazak> in the document settings dialog instead?
It would be correct in some sense, but the fact is that the place
where you insert the bibtex database is
> It could be something like a combox to choose one bib database with
> a small + on the right. When clicking on +, a second combox appears
> below the first (with a + at the right to add another one, and a -
> to delete an entry).
what is wrong with a simple dialog + an add... push button that po
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
"Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> IMHO, the bibtex dialog should be accessible from the
Abdelrazak> citation dialog. For the matter, I think everything
Abdelrazak> related to citation should be accessible through the
Abdelra
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Abdelrazak> IMHO, the bibtex dialog should be accessible from the
Abdelrazak> citation dialog. For the matter, I think everything
Abdelrazak> related to citation should be accessible through the
Abdelrazak> citation dialog.
I do
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> What about a combox with this list of databases (and maybe a
>> browse button near the combox?)
John> You mean in the first dialog? That would make the dialog pretty
John> confusing IMO...
You are right, this is what happens when trying
Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit :
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
IMHO, the bibtex dialog should be accessible from the citation dialog.
For the matter, I think everything related to citation should be
accessible through the citation dialog.
And if we have several different bibtext insets (bibtopic)?
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> IMHO, the bibtex dialog should be accessible from the citation dialog.
> For the matter, I think everything related to citation should be
> accessible through the citation dialog.
And if we have several different bibtext insets (bibtopic)?
Jürgen
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
"John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:19:05PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
it is just the 1st dialog in the qt3 version, but when you click
add... it directly pops up the file dialog to add a bib file.
John> Why is it mor
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 07:10:12PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> John> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:19:05PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> >> it is just the 1st dialog in the qt3 version, but when you click
> >> add... it directly pops up the file dialog to add a bib file.
>
> John> Why is it mo
> "John" == John Levon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:19:05PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
>> it is just the 1st dialog in the qt3 version, but when you click
>> add... it directly pops up the file dialog to add a bib file.
John> Why is it more convenient to walk thr
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:19:05PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> it is just the 1st dialog in the qt3 version, but when you click
> add... it directly pops up the file dialog to add a bib file.
Why is it more convenient to walk through the file system than have a
list of your bibtex databases in fro
Leuven, E. wrote:
> it is just the 1st dialog in the qt3 version, but when you click add... it
> directly pops up the file dialog to add a bib file.
So the scanned list of bib files is not available anymore?
That's bad.
Jürgen
: remove (2nd) add dialog in add bib tex ref dialog
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:51:07PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> i personally think this is more convenient.
>
> comments, opinions?
Can't I have a qt3 version to look at? Do we really want the two
frontends to diverge over these things?
regards
john
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:51:07PM +0100, Leuven, E. wrote:
> i personally think this is more convenient.
>
> comments, opinions?
Can't I have a qt3 version to look at? Do we really want the two
frontends to diverge over these things?
regards
john
Leuven, E. a écrit :
i personally think this is more convenient.
comments, opinions?
This is fine with me also. Plus you have ported it to Qt4 API which is
even better. But I am not much a Bibtex user. Would you want to give a
go for Citation/AddCitation Dialog? I don't have the time right n
Leuven, E. wrote:
> i personally think this is more convenient.
> comments, opinions?
fine with me.
Jürgen
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