Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:11:55AM +0100, John Levon wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:04:41AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > > > with Lars decisions of just droping some features! About the minipages I > > don't have any open bug assigned telling me that there are problems with > > them, so?! >

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 28-May-2002 John Levon wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:04:41AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > >> with Lars decisions of just droping some features! About the minipages I >> don't have any open bug assigned telling me that there are problems with >> them, so?! > > bug 374, 375, 376 are a c

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread John Levon
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:04:41AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > with Lars decisions of just droping some features! About the minipages I > don't have any open bug assigned telling me that there are problems with > them, so?! bug 374, 375, 376 are a couple of examples. I don't know if all of the

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 28-May-2002 John Levon wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:43:42AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > >> Well I disagree in return. It seems we have different opinions about >> will be supported and I'm pretty sure external scripts get not enough >> support! > > Well, our minipage and floatflt su

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread John Levon
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:43:42AM +0200, Juergen Vigna wrote: > Well I disagree in return. It seems we have different opinions about > will be supported and I'm pretty sure external scripts get not enough > support! Well, our minipage and floatflt support in 1.2.0 wasn't too great was it ? reg

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 28-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I disagree... > > A script that translates between two _specific_ lyx-format versions > does not really have to know all the semantics of a lyx file. You mean it has to only know the parts which changed between formats? Well then give someone a good

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 27-May-2002 John Levon wrote: >> On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:26:06PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: >> >>> A conversion script does not need to understand all the tokens in the .lyx >>> file. >> >> Indeed. An external script is definitely the best way. Th

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-28 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 27-May-2002 John Levon wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:26:06PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: > >> A conversion script does not need to understand all the tokens in the .lyx >> file. > > Indeed. An external script is definitely the best way. Thins like > tabular-old.C are just a painful mainte

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
> No. 1.2.0 is compatible with 1.1.5 and 1.1.6, 1.3.0 will be compatible > with 1.2.0. > > By requiring that 1.3.0 must be compatible with 1.1.6 we effetively > stops all fileformat cleanup and changes. And it was a real > bee-hive... not nice code at all. I agree with Lars. All compatibility ha

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread John Levon
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:26:06PM +0300, Dekel Tsur wrote: > A conversion script does not need to understand all the tokens in the .lyx > file. Indeed. An external script is definitely the best way. Thins like tabular-old.C are just a painful maintenance burden. regards john -- "Time is a gr

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 04:02:23PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > we do not want this stuff in LyX. sed,awk,python,perl are the place to > > do this. > > But only LyX can read .lyx. > > Re-creating parser would be a major p

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Could you elaborate this? I think we CAN have this in lyx (at Juergen> least starting from the version we support with 1.2.0). Why Juergen> should 1 additional file give any more problems? It's Juergen> isolated and if you don'

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > we do not want this stuff in LyX. sed,awk,python,perl are the place to > do this. But only LyX can read .lyx. Re-creating parser would be a major pain. Why not taking a snapshot of 1.2.0 CVS and creating a script 'lyx116to1

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >| Otherwise we just move all the compatibility stuff >| in a "old_format_read.C" and if we see that "version < our_favoured_version" >| we just call the function in that file appart. > > we do not want this stuff in LyX. sed,awk,python,perl are the pla

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > >> If your file was in 1.2.0 format it should be no probles, and if it is >> you have found a bug. > | ??? What file? I just launched lyx and did "File->New...". "I" may know that | we are reading a default.ly

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Lars> Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars> | On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not |

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > If your file was in 1.2.0 format it should be no probles, and if it is > you have found a bug. ??? What file? I just launched lyx and did "File->New...". "I" may know that we are reading a default.lyx file, but are you willing to tell it to every user

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 27-May-2002 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Jules> Please at least ship a utility which can read 1.1.6 files! One > Jules> of the reasons that I use free software tools over MS crap is > Jules> that it is less susceptible to bit-rot. I

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jules> Please at least ship a utility which can read 1.1.6 files! One Jules> of the reasons that I use free software tools over MS crap is Jules> that it is less susceptible to bit-rot. I don't want the Jules> letters I wrote a year or two a

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:04:12PM +0200, Lars Gullik Bj?nnes wrote: > > By requiring that 1.3.0 must be compatible with 1.1.6 we effetively > stops all fileformat cleanup and changes. And it was a real > bee-hive... not nice code at all. Please at least ship a utility which can read 1.1.6 fil

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Juergen> On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >>> | Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not >>> | Juergen> supported file ;) Jug >>> | It may be yo

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> | On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >>> | Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not >>> | Juergen> supported file ;) Jug >>> | It may be your d

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >>| Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not >>| Juergen> supported file ;) Jug >>> >>| It may be your default.lyx template... > | Well whatever it is the message is just plain stupid to

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> | Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not >> | Juergen> supported file ;) Jug >>> >> | It may be your default.lyx template... Juergen> Well whatever it is t

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Juergen Vigna
On 27-May-2002 Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >| Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not >| Juergen> supported file ;) Jug >> >| It may be your default.lyx template... Well whatever it is the message is just plain stupid to me. I create a "new" file! If this is a problem for

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not | Juergen> supported file ;) Jug > | It may be your default.lyx template... I also see that from the templates that

Re: Try File->New with 1.3.0cvs

2002-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Vigna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Well it seems with "New..." we want now open an old not Juergen> supported file ;) Jug It may be your default.lyx template... JMarc