Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> Can't we do something like this: Add a button with a Juergen> "?"-Pixmap to toolbar, which is disabled by default. If you Juergen> click it, it stays clicked unless you click again (like Small Juergen> Caps). If we hav

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > I have a question of my own about the 'show tooltips' checkbox, or > '?' pixmap button. > > If we plump for the 'show tooltips' checkbox should it have global > scope? Ie, if activated in one dialog, it should be activated in all? > Ditto, for turning them off. Very easy to

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Allan Rae
On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Herbert Voss wrote: > Allan Rae wrote: > > > Remove both the help popup and the short tooltips. Display the long > > text in tooltip if we must as I said earlier I prefer the text in the > > bottom of the dialog. > > the layout of these guis look ugly. So I'm just one voice

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Allan Rae wrote: > On 8 Feb 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > I took a look at the new tooltip scheme, and I find it misleading > > for several reasons: > > > > - if there is no short tooltips, then it should not be possible to > > select the corresponding option in the dialog's 'help' popup

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Herbert Voss
Allan Rae wrote: > Remove both the help popup and the short tooltips. Display the long > text in tooltip if we must as I said earlier I prefer the text in the > bottom of the dialog. the layout of these guis look ugly. Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Allan Rae
On 8 Feb 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I took a look at the new tooltip scheme, and I find it misleading for > several reasons: > > - if there is no short tooltips, then it should not be possible to > select the corresponding option in the dialog's 'help' popup. > > - the help 'popup' is

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-09 Thread Allan Rae
On 8 Feb 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "michael" == michael schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > michael> Hi, I rather doubt that you need another opinion but here it > michael> comes. (Actually three opinions :-) > > michael> 1. Please don't add any buttons (whatever they are call

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "spitzmue" == spitzmue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: spitzmue> It looks better. We could have a nice pixmap with a question spitzmue> mark. Actually, radio button was the wrong expression. I spitzmue> mean a button that keeps clicked, like we have in the spitzmue> bullets tab in Document. O

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread spitzmue
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "spitzmue" == spitzmue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > spitzmue> My favourite is (similar to Angus'): - In Preferences: > spitzmue> "Don't show tooltips" checkbox, disabled by default, while > spitzmue> leaving the short ones in. > > What do you mean by ``leavi

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "michael" == michael schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: michael> Hi, I rather doubt that you need another opinion but here it michael> comes. (Actually three opinions :-) michael> 1. Please don't add any buttons (whatever they are called) to michael> the dialogs (and remove the existing n

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "spitzmue" == spitzmue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: spitzmue> My favourite is (similar to Angus'): - In Preferences: spitzmue> "Don't show tooltips" checkbox, disabled by default, while spitzmue> leaving the short ones in. What do you mean by ``leaving the short ones in'' spitzmue> - In t

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread michael . schmitt
Hi, I rather doubt that you need another opinion but here it comes. (Actually three opinions :-) 1. Please don't add any buttons (whatever they are called) to the dialogs (and remove the existing new "help" buttons) It makes the dialog bigger and more complex; moreover, I can't imagine

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Herbert Voss
On 8 Feb 2002, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > help-> show Tooltips or something else > > I understand, but should your choice 'stick' when you quit and restart > lyx? If it does, it is a pref. sure, I agree. The only thing what I want to say is, that it must be easy to find for newbies. and that

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread spitzmue
My favourite is (similar to Angus'): - In Preferences: "Don't show tooltips" checkbox, disabled by default, while leaving the short ones in. - In the dialog a nice pixmap radio_button_ "Context Help". If someone presses it, he gets the tooltip "move your mouse to the appropriate widget to ge

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Tell me of one other app that has a What's This? functionality Angus> that sticks! A A What's This functionality that stinks? I think I can find plenty of those. JMarc

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 08 February 2002 2:17 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Herbert> I thought of something like the layout->bold style: > > help-> show Tooltips or something else > > Herbert> thats all. > > I understand, but should your ch

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> I thought of something like the layout->bold style: help-> show Tooltips or something else Herbert> thats all. I understand, but should your choice 'stick' when you quit and restart lyx? If it does, it is a pref. JMarc

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Angus Leeming wrote: > Personally, I like Jean-Marc's idea of a 'show tooltip' checkbox in every > dialog, but with global scope. Check it in one dialog and it's checked in > all. It's turned off by default. remember that it is easy to turn it off for advanced users, but it's difficult to tur

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >>"Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > Herbert> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>>choice should be done in prefs, and not in each dialog. >>> > > > Herbert> there is a _main_ topic Help, why do you need the preferences > Herbert> gui

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 08 February 2002 1:17 pm, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Herbert> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >> choice should be done in prefs, and not in each dialog. > > > Herbert> there is a _main_ topic Help, why do you need the pr

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> You'd like the short tooltips to disappear. Fine by me. I was Angus> more concerned with giving people the flexibility to display Angus> that they want. Yes, but too much flexibility can be confusing... Angus> I have a question o

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Herbert" == Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> choice should be done in prefs, and not in each dialog. Herbert> there is a _main_ topic Help, why do you need the preferences Herbert> gui for the global settings? You mean it should be a toggl

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Herbert Voss
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > choice should be done in prefs, and not in each dialog. there is a _main_ topic Help, why do you need the preferences gui for the global settings? Herbert -- http://www.lyx.org/help/

Re: The new tooltips scheme

2002-02-08 Thread Angus Leeming
On Friday 08 February 2002 11:24 am, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I took a look at the new tooltip scheme, and I find it misleading for > several reasons: > > - if there is no short tooltips, then it should not be possible to > select the corresponding option in the dialog's 'help' popup. > >