Richard Heck wrote:
> Of course, this is fine.
>
> See my other proposal: We should just have an HTML output format, as you
> proposed first, I think.
on contrary i think it is not worth the effort
pavel
Pavel Sanda wrote:
anyway i still think we can make this converter to be recognized by us.
secondly i think we should provide different target for viewing then
the current HTML target done by html2latex or others.
as we have different targets pdf1/2/3, dvi1/2, ps1/2 for different routes
this shou
Richard Heck wrote:
>> It is for many people who just need basic math (like me and, I would
>> contend, 90% of LyX users).
>>
> It would surprise me if 90% of LyX users only needed "basic math".
+1
p
Alex Fernandez wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
> > are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user would detect this, or
> > avoid
> > it by eg switching to math material to be externally typ
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
rgheck wrote:
Let me say again that my point had to do with what's required if this
is to be included in LyX. And my view, which I would expect to be
widely shared, is that support for "basic math" isn't good enough
*for that purpose*. If it works well enough for you a
Helge Hafting wrote:
rgheck wrote:
Right now, it just outputs the raw LaTeX for anything it doesn't
recognize. Fixing this is a matter of writing a LaTeX-->HTML entities
converter, for some of it, or using some trick to generate little
pictures, or maybe using MathML, who knows? But what abou
Charles de Miramon wrote:
rgheck wrote:
Just to be clear, here are what I regard as the showstoppers:
Theorem-type environments aren't rendered; math support is marginal, esp
with regard to custom macros; BibTeX isn't supported, so far as I can
tell; cross-references omit the related text.
rgheck wrote:
Right now, it just outputs the raw LaTeX for anything it doesn't
recognize. Fixing this is a matter of writing a LaTeX-->HTML entities
converter, for some of it, or using some trick to generate little
pictures, or maybe using MathML, who knows? But what about math macros?
Th
On 2009-04-29, Alex Fernandez wrote:
> Custom macros are quite out of scope for all I know.
Would it be possible to handle custom math-macros that are defined in
the actual document, like
...
\begin_inset FormulaMacro
\renewcommand{\test}{\int x\,\mathrm{d}x}
\end_inset
\begin_i
rgheck wrote:
> Just to be clear, here are what I regard as the showstoppers:
> Theorem-type environments aren't rendered; math support is marginal, esp
> with regard to custom macros; BibTeX isn't supported, so far as I can
> tell; cross-references omit the related text. Other things I'd want to
rgheck wrote:
Let me say again that my point had to do with what's required if this
is to be included in LyX. And my view, which I would expect to be
widely shared, is that support for "basic math" isn't good enough *for
that purpose*. If it works well enough for you and some other users,
that
Alex Fernandez wrote:
Fair enough. My views are much more simplistic: LyX currently doesn't
do what 99.9% of users need, which is output to different formats
including HTML and/or something importable from within Word. Thus
many, many people don't know about an otherwise wonderful editor. The
nee
rgheck wrote:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
Richard Heck wrote:
Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I
therefore plan
to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
just redistribute the executable file
Hi again,
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:09 AM, rgheck wrote:
> The document I converted ended up with very little but raw LaTeX. I don't
> know why, but that's how it went. E.g.:
Could you send me this document?
> Just to be clear, here are what I regard as the showstoppers: Theorem-type
> environ
Hi again, Richard,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, rgheck wrote:
> The main advantage to going that way, in my opinion, is that I'm not sure
> the LyX team wants to commit to maintaining this converter. Even if we made
> you part of the team (i.e., gave you commit rights), still, having one
> pe
Alex Fernandez wrote:
Hi Richard,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM, rgheck wrote:
So far as I can see, math is almost untranslated at this point. (I just
cloned from git.) Theorem-type environments do not get converted, either.
There's more on this in a different message.
That is not
Hi Richard,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:31 PM, rgheck wrote:
> So far as I can see, math is almost untranslated at this point. (I just
> cloned from git.) Theorem-type environments do not get converted, either.
> There's more on this in a different message.
That is not really true. All formulae in
Hi Pavel,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
> are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user would detect this, or avoid
> it by eg switching to math material to be externally typesetted by latex
> and t
> 1. Let LyX find the program and generate a menu entry for export/view HTML
> via elyxer.
Cool.
> 2. "Advertise" elyxer by including it in the list of recommended programs.
Even cooler.
> 3. Describe elyxer as a LyX->HTML converter option in the LyX Manual.
Coolest.
> Could you file an enh
Pavel Sanda wrote:
Richard Heck wrote:
Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore
plan
to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
just redistribute the executable file as is. I'm a
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 06:52:09AM +, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2009-04-29, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Hi,
> For Linux distributions this would mean a "recommendation" or
> "suggestion" in the lyx package. (Hopefully there will be an elyxer
> Debian package soon.)
These terms (recommends and sug
Richard Heck wrote:
>>> Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore
>>> plan
>>> to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
>>>
>>
>> That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
>> just redistribute the executable file as is. I'm all for it.
Alex Fernandez wrote:
Hi Uwe,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore plan
to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
just redistribut
Pavel Sanda wrote:
Richard Heck wrote:
Pavel Sanda wrote:
- accurate and complete math translation,
can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user would detect this, or
avoid
it by eg switching
Richard Heck wrote:
> Pavel Sanda wrote:
>>> - accurate and complete math translation,
>>>
>>
>> can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
>> are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user would detect this, or
>> avoid
>> it by eg switching to math material
rgheck writes:
>> Integration with lyx2lyx is a must IMO, since it will ensure that it
>> still works if the LyX format is updated. This means that we do not have
>> to rely on proper maintenance of eLyXer before a release.
>>
>>
> I don't see how this is possible. I have looked at the code, an
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
Jürgen Spitzmüller writes:
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
Well, if you don't want eLyXers to stay a single-person project I'd
advocate integrating into LyX proper. For example the csv2lyx script was
looked at, optimized and cleaned up a lot by other developers as
Pavel Sanda wrote:
- accurate and complete math translation,
can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user would detect this, or avoid
it by eg switching to math material to be externally typesetted by latex
and t
Jürgen Spitzmüller writes:
> Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
>
>> Well, if you don't want eLyXers to stay a single-person project I'd
>> advocate integrating into LyX proper. For example the csv2lyx script was
>> looked at, optimized and cleaned up a lot by other developers as soon as
>> it was integrate
Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> Well, if you don't want eLyXers to stay a single-person project I'd
> advocate integrating into LyX proper. For example the csv2lyx script was
> looked at, optimized and cleaned up a lot by other developers as soon as
> it was integrated into LyX.
In any case, it might
Alex Fernandez wrote:
> So, after a couple of months of development, eLyXer is now ready for
> prime time!
congratulations :)
> - accurate and complete math translation,
can you be more specific about this point? is it that some expressions
are typeset with bugs? is there some way how user wou
Alex Fernandez wrote:
Hi Uwe,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore plan
to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
just redistribut
Hi Uwe,
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 3:13 AM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore plan
> to include eLyXer to my Windows installer.
That is an interesting possibility: not include the code in LyX and
just redistribute the executable file as is. I
On 2009-04-29, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> > What do you think?
If the plan is to keep elyxer development at Savannah, source integration
into LyX is not needed (but still possible if desired). Instead, elyxer
should be integrated in the sense of a supporting application like latex,
or ps2pdf:
1. Let LyX
> What do you think?
Your eLyXers is much better than tex4ht as far as I tested. I therefore plan to include eLyXer to my
Windows installer.
We can also directly include it to LyX and I support this. But this decision depends on our three
Js: José, JMarc, and Jürgen.
Using LyX with your progr
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