Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-13 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 05:59:07AM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > And as usual the biggest expenditure of resources would be on the > diplomatic effort to turn around/get around the naysayers. Hey, this is > free software! People spend their personal resources as they see fit. > > Sorry... just ge

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-13 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:50:52AM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > This is great yes and I am very happy about that :-) > But, as a side note, I would like to point out that the controller > framework seems overly complicated to me. I remember that while > developing the Qt4 frontend I found my

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 02:48:22PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > The problem is to make it easy for contributers to build binaries for > us. Building Qt4 is much simpler than building LyX. So whoever is able to build LyX could build Qt4 by himself. Andre'

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Georg Baum
Am Freitag, 10. März 2006 09:54 schrieb Lars Gullik Bjønnes: > (also related to this: I have some of the procedures to do rebasing > instead for merging on branches ready. This makes working on long > lived branches easier, and keeps the history a bit better. That is the > idea at least.) Can you

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> I use it a bit... it compiles a lot faster (I know lousy reason) | | Not so lousy. | | But you will maybe like it less when it comes to support unicode... | | The questi

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I use it a bit... it compiles a lot faster (I know lousy reason) Not so lousy. But you will maybe like it less when it comes to support unicode... The question is to know what we gain by removing it. JMarc

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> I think it would be quite ok to drop qt2 support for 1.5, so | Lars> that we only have worry about qt3 (and qt4) | | Sure. | | And probably drop xforms too. We could mayb

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> I think it would be quite ok to drop qt2 support for 1.5, so Lars> that we only have worry about qt3 (and qt4) Sure. And probably drop xforms too. We could maybe poll a bit lyx-users to know who uses xforms. JMarc

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > There might be some conversion issue with the ui files. Fron what I > gathered in the README, those have nether been edited with Qt3 designer, > have they? As far is I know, they never have been edited with Qt3 designer. At least we have been very careful that no one di

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Georg Baum
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > There might be some conversion issue with the ui files. Fron what I > gathered in the README, those have nether been edited with Qt3 designer, > have they? This is what I doubt. But it should be true for most of them. Anyway, there is no need to convert them explicitly,

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Angus Leeming a écrit : Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I think it would be quite ok to drop qt2 support for 1.5, so that we only have worry about qt3 (and qt4) This may have happened already. I would not be surprised if 1.4 would not work with qt 2 anymore. AFAIK it is some time ago s

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > Then rename the folder as qt3 and remove any "#ifdef QT2" type workarounds. I agree. Jürgen

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Angus Leeming
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I think it would be quite ok to drop qt2 support for 1.5, so that we > > only have worry about qt3 (and qt4) > This may have happened already. I would not be surprised if 1.4 would not > work with qt 2 anymore. AFAIK it is some time ago since somebody com

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Georg Baum
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I think it would be quite ok to drop qt2 support for 1.5, so that we > only have worry about qt3 (and qt4) This may have happened already. I would not be surprised if 1.4 would not work with qt 2 anymore. AFAIK it is some time ago since somebody compiled LyX 1.4 for w

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Abdelrazak Younes wrote: | > Of course there are many wonderful improvements wrt 1.3 I am not denying | > that. But if you think that the reason why the qt2 frontend stalled | > after the polishing is that it is mature as it is then we should not

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit : >> Abdelrazak Younes wrote: >>> If you talk about the gtk and qt4 frontends I agree but when I >>> look at the qt2 frontend, I don't see much development in cvs >>> history in the last tw

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 09:54 +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | Another BTW: when will be have the 'personal' or 'sandbox' branch | > | directory? We have SVN now but psychologically we're still i

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Of course there are many wonderful improvements wrt 1.3 I am not denying > that. But if you think that the reason why the qt2 frontend stalled > after the polishing is that it is mature as it is then we should not add > any new feature to it, should we? just kidding ;-)

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 09:54 +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Another BTW: when will be have the 'personal' or 'sandbox' branch > | directory? We have SVN now but psychologically we're still in CVS. > > I can create it right now if you want it.

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 10:50 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Martin Vermeer a écrit : ... > > BTW on a side note: did anybody else notice how good it is that we have > > GUI front-end independence, even if one would hold that having multiple > > front-ends is undesirable: LyX contains a number of

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Juergen Spitzmueller a écrit : Abdelrazak Younes wrote: If you talk about the gtk and qt4 frontends I agree but when I look at the qt2 frontend, I don't see much development in cvs history in the last two years. Perhaps because we think it is quite mature as it is? We surely did some polishin

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > If you talk about the gtk and qt4 frontends I agree but when I look at > the qt2 frontend, I don't see much development in cvs history in the > last two years. Perhaps because we think it is quite mature as it is? We surely did some polishing. You'll notice that if you

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer a écrit : I belive that qt3 will stay of a (long) while yet. That's it... what I don't like is opposing an agreed good idea with the argument "don't you have anything better to do". Well, it is surely a good idea for the user but, if you look for fun coding, you will enjoy Qt4

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Another BTW: when will be have the 'personal' or 'sandbox' branch | directory? We have SVN now but psychologically we're still in CVS. I can create it right now if you want it. (I need it myself aswell... for the xml branch) (also related to this: I

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-10 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 08:39 +0100, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > Any work on this scale on the qt3 frontend is a waste of resources. > | > | And as usual the biggest expenditure of resources would be on the > | diplomatic effort to turn around/get

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-09 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Any work on this scale on the qt3 frontend is a waste of resources. | | And as usual the biggest expenditure of resources would be on the | diplomatic effort to turn around/get around the naysayers. Hey, this is | free software! People spend their pe

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-09 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 06:15:38PM +0100, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 03:24:14PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > Martin Vermeer a écrit : > > >On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 11:45 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > > >>Martin Vermeer a écrit : ... > > >>All this would need a few addi

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-09 Thread Charles de Miramon
Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > That would be great and would solve the portability issue of autotools. > Is there some tools to convert autotools script to cmake? > http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdesdk/scripts/cmake/am2cmake?rev=516914&view=log seems to be specific for kde Cheers, Charles -- htt

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-09 Thread Jose' Matos
On Thursday 09 March 2006 17:15, Andre Poenitz wrote: > Any work on this scale on the qt3 frontend is a waste of resources. I agree, FWIW. > Andre' -- José Abílio

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-09 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 03:24:14PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Martin Vermeer a écrit : > >On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 11:45 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > >>Martin Vermeer a écrit : > >>>On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:52 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >"Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Charles de Miramon a écrit : Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Having dock widgets/sidebars would be great for many dialogs (the crossrefs or error dialogs come to mind). http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qt4-mainwindow.html Feel free to look at the qt4 frontend ;-) A docking interface would

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Charles de Miramon a écrit : Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Having dock widgets/sidebars would be great for many dialogs (the crossrefs or error dialogs come to mind). http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qt4-mainwindow.html Feel free to look at the qt4 frontend ;-) A docking interface would

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Charles de Miramon
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > Having dock widgets/sidebars would be great for many dialogs (the > crossrefs or error dialogs come to mind). > http://doc.trolltech.com/4.1/qt4-mainwindow.html A docking interface would be great for LyX. There are some nice ideas in Koffice design competition ht

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> I have plans to make the Qt4 Toc dialog a dock widget Abdelrazak> instead of a windows and transform that into an outlining Abdelrazak> tool. Having dock widgets/sidebars would be great for many dialogs (the crossref

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : >>> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Or we can just statically compile until Qt4 is in the Abdelrazak> distribution. By the time 1.5 is out, I

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-08 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit : "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Or we can just statically compile until Qt4 is in the Abdelrazak> distribution. By the time 1.5 is out, I am sure that all Abdelrazak> distrib will have it. We are not only aiming at people

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Abdelrazak" == Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Abdelrazak> Or we can just statically compile until Qt4 is in the Abdelrazak> distribution. By the time 1.5 is out, I am sure that all Abdelrazak> distrib will have it. We are not only aiming at people who have a distrib that is

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer a écrit : On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 11:45 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Martin Vermeer a écrit : On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:52 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... What would be _much_ easier however is to make this possib

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 11:45 +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Martin Vermeer a écrit : > > On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:52 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > >>> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > >> What would be _much_ easier however is to make this possible through

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Martin Vermeer a écrit : On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:52 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Shouldn't be too hard. Already sectioning commands for XML Martin> contain a CommandDepth parameter. This could be used on the Martin> LaTeX sid

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | (Did klyx have outlining? That confirms that it cannot be so hard.) But klyx had a lot of hacks... -- Lgb

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> (Did klyx have outlining? That confirms that it cannot be so Martin> hard.) Yes, in the ToC dialog. JMarc

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:52 +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Martin> Shouldn't be too hard. Already sectioning commands for XML > Martin> contain a CommandDepth parameter. This could be used on the > Martin> LaTeX side too. > >

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Shouldn't be too hard. Already sectioning commands for XML Martin> contain a CommandDepth parameter. This could be used on the Martin> LaTeX side too. We have TocLevel for numbered sections. Martin> output_docbook contains a r

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 09:26 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: > Charles de Miramon wrote: > > >Angus Leeming wrote: > > > > > > > >>Charles Fox wrote: ... > There should be no efficiency problems with an outline mode in lyx. > And for those that don't like outline modes - well don't use it. :-) A

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-07 Thread Helge Hafting
Charles de Miramon wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Charles Fox wrote: Dear LyX Developers, I am a PhD student who will be starting to write a thesis in a couple of months time. I'd love to use LyX, but there is one feature missing that I really need: an outline mode. Like MS Word, I'

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-06 Thread Charles de Miramon
Angus Leeming wrote: > Charles Fox wrote: >> Dear LyX Developers, >> >> I am a PhD student who will be starting to write a thesis in a couple >> of months time. I'd love to use LyX, but there is one feature missing >> that I really need: an outline mode. Like MS Word, I'd like to be >> able t

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-06 Thread Angus Leeming
Charles Fox wrote: Dear LyX Developers, I am a PhD student who will be starting to write a thesis in a couple of months time. I'd love to use LyX, but there is one feature missing that I really need: an outline mode. Like MS Word, I'd like to be able to see and /quickly edit in place/ the do

Re: LyX: feature request with cash bounty

2006-03-06 Thread Abdelrazak Younes
Charles Fox a écrit : Dear LyX Developers, [...] I am just a PhD student but I could pay maybe $120 to someone who knows the code and could write this feature in the next couple of months. I have something like this in my todo list but maybe not in the next couple of month. Hopefully it