Re: Insert menu

2021-01-27 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 1/26/21 4:27 PM, Yuriy Skalko wrote: I would think Marginal Notes could certainly go with notes. But footnotes are so common, at least in academic writing, that I'd be reluctant to move them another keystroke away. Riki But frequent usage of menu for this is not very effective. There is

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-27 Thread Yuriy Skalko
Also I think marginal notes are too different sorts of notes than the ones in the Notes submenu. Footnotes and marginal notes are part of the document structure, the other notes are more editorial devices (the rather esoteric "gray text", whose purpose I never fully grasped, note might be a hybrid

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 13:59 -0500 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck: > But footnotes are so common, at least in academic writing, that I'd > be reluctant to move them another keystroke away. I agree.  Also I think marginal notes are too different sorts of notes than the ones in the Notes sub

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Yuriy Skalko
I would think Marginal Notes could certainly go with notes. But footnotes are so common, at least in academic writing, that I'd be reluctant to move them another keystroke away. Riki But frequent usage of menu for this is not very effective. There is a convenient toolbar button for this. Al

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Richard Kimberly Heck
On 1/26/21 1:50 PM, Yuriy Skalko wrote: But I agree with another Andrew's proposition: I realise this adds another item to a long Insert menu, but an overall shrinkage by one follows if "Footnote" and "Marginal Note" are included under "Note". The Insert menu is really long and already cause

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Yuriy Skalko
I don't think this is a very good category name. Also I think that these are all sorts of "lists" that can be grouped together. In German, we have the general term "Verzeichnisse" which perfectly fits them all (TOC is "Inhaltsverzeichnis", Bibliography "Literaturverzeichnis", List of Figure "Abb

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 15:42 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Fair enough. But the naming is more descriptive than conceptual (if I > may say so). Definitely. I hope someone comes with a more succinct label. Looking at the LibreOffice and MS Word cases, I fear this is not easy to find

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 26/01/2021 à 15:08, Jürgen Spitzmüller a écrit : Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 11:23 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: Can we have something that combines front and end matters? Like what we have now :-)? Fair enough. But the naming is more descriptive than conceptual (if I may say so

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 11:23 +0100 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > Can we have something that combines front and end matters? Like what we have now :-)? BTW LibreOffice has it in "Insert > Table of Contents and Index" (which is odd since this also contains Bibliography, LOF, LOT). German

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 26/01/2021 à 11:07, Jean-Pierre Chrétien a écrit : Le 26/01/2021 à 09:37, José Abílio Matos a écrit : One striking example for me is the case of Portuguese books where the TOC was placed at the end. The idea is that in this case you can interpret the TOC as some kind of index. Actually it e

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Chrétien
Le 26/01/2021 à 09:37, José Abílio Matos a écrit : One striking example for me is the case of Portuguese books where the TOC was placed at the end. The idea is that in this case you can interpret the TOC as some kind of index. Actually it even received the name of index while the index was cal

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-26 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:27:06 AM WET Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > I prefer functional category over positional. TOC, LOF, LOT (the latter > two often in the backmatter BTW, sometimes even the former), indexes, > nomenclature, references and glossaries all are lists with entries that > refer t

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Dienstag, dem 26.01.2021 um 10:16 +1300 schrieb Andrew Parsloe: > English *syntax* perhaps?  No, semantics (semasiology of "list" vs. "Verzeichnis"). > The semantics I had in mind was the division of a book into three > parts: prelims (i.e. preliminary pages), text or body of the book, > and e

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-25 Thread Andrew Parsloe
On 25/01/2021 11:15 pm, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: Am Montag, dem 25.01.2021 um 16:56 +1300 schrieb Andrew Parsloe: (LyX 2.4.0 alpha) Inserted a TOC recently. My eye ran down the Insert menu to Table..., realised that wasn't it, then back up the list to "List/Contents/References", found and duly

Re: Insert menu

2021-01-25 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Am Montag, dem 25.01.2021 um 16:56 +1300 schrieb Andrew Parsloe: > (LyX 2.4.0 alpha) Inserted a TOC recently. My eye ran down the Insert > menu to Table..., realised that wasn't it, then back up the list to > "List/Contents/References", found and duly inserted the TOC inset. Yes. This has been re

Re: Insert menu shortcut

2000-10-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Baruch" == Baruch Even <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Baruch> On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Lior Silberman wrote: >> Int 1.1.5, the shortcut for "Insert->Figure" was M-i g and for >> "Insert->Footnote" it was M-i f. In the current menu defs, the >> Figure entry also has an 'F', overriding the 'footnot

Re: Insert menu shortcut

2000-10-13 Thread Baruch Even
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Lior Silberman wrote: > Int 1.1.5, the shortcut for "Insert->Figure" was M-i g and for > "Insert->Footnote" it was M-i f. In the current menu defs, the Figure > entry also has an 'F', overriding the 'footnote'. > > Since there is no 'o' in this menu so far, I think we should

Re: Insert menu shortcut

2000-10-13 Thread Carl Ollivier-Gooch
Lior Silberman wrote: > > Int 1.1.5, the shortcut for "Insert->Figure" was M-i g and for > "Insert->Footnote" it was M-i f. In the current menu defs, the Figure > entry also has an 'F', overriding the 'footnote'. > > Since there is no 'o' in this menu so far, I think we should choose one > of: >