PR job

2001-06-28 Thread John Levon
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10144-100-910584.html?tag=st.dl.10004-103-1.lst-7-1.910584 has an ancient versio of lyx listed. dunno who to contact ... john -- "Q: Name a non-living object with legs A: A plant." - Family Fortunes

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-02-17 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Allan> No screams of protest heard so I'm sending this off in about an Allan> hour -- I should have cleaned it up and got the various email Allan> addresses by then. Allan> So scream now before it's too late It looks good, Allan. Go for

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-02-16 Thread Allan Rae
No screams of protest heard so I'm sending this off in about an hour -- I should have cleaned it up and got the various email addresses by then. So scream now before it's too late Allan.

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-02-14 Thread Allan Rae
[hopefully the final draft... I would like to get this to lwn this week] On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Allan Rae wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Allan Rae wrote: > > > NOT FOR RELEASE > > DO NOT REMOVE THE ABOVE LINE > > > > Target audience: freshmeat, linuxdev.net, slashdot, icewalkers, c.o.l.a. > > >

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Andre Poenitz
> Why don't we - as a kind of publicity gag and to attract more users and > developers - prepare some blurb/project in this field and claim > compliance? I surely do not want to claim anything I can't deliver. Even as a 'kind of publicity gag'. Andre' -- André Pönitz .

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Hey, I've just found the most simple and most radical solution: Compile | with | | cxx -ansi -pedantic -terroristic -D__ULTRA_STRICT_ANSI__ | -D_KALASHNIKOW | | and let the compiler shoot everybody who introduces a non-standard | function. Mmm, li

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> The problem seems to be that to compile system specifics with | Lars> C++ you have to include the C headers... not a very good | Lars> solution. | | How far can we go wit

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
"Arnd Hanses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | separate library. Rethinking this, I would even propose: | | Put all low-level stuff into a separate opaque C library ! A C lib is not needed, but we might need a C++ lib that does this. I have moved a couple of "UNIX" functions out of the lyx

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> The problem seems to be that to compile system specifics with Lars> C++ you have to include the C headers... not a very good Lars> solution. How far can we go with C++ only stuff? Is it possible to do signals for example in pu

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-14 Thread Juergen Vigna
> > Hey, I've just found the most simple and most radical solution: Compile > with > > cxx -ansi -pedantic -terroristic -D__ULTRA_STRICT_ANSI__ > -D_KALASHNIKOW > > and let the compiler shoot everybody who introduces a non-standard > function. > I guess then we won't have a lot developers

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 13 Jan 2000 17:43:29 +0100, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: >Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >| > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bj°nnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >| >| Lars> The problem is not C library functions, but "UNIX" functions >| Lars> declared in C headers. (IMHO a mistak

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Arnd Hanses
On 13 Jan 2000 16:58:30 +0100, Lars Gullik Bj°nnes wrote: >Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >| >| If we want to have CC compile lyx easily, we have to settle the >| question of adding 'usingstd::foo' where foo is a C library function. >| The problem is that cxx does not like th

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | Lars> The problem is not C library functions, but "UNIX" functions | Lars> declared in C headers. (IMHO a mistake, but now we have to cary | Lars> the inheritance garbage.) | |

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> The problem is not C library functions, but "UNIX" functions Lars> declared in C headers. (IMHO a mistake, but now we have to cary Lars> the inheritance garbage.) I have to admit that I do not really understand the difference,

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | - the reserve() problem, since the out of memory as reported by Jose' | did not allow to get something under gdb. I have remvoed the reserves from paragraph.C since this is already done in the constructor. I have also added a resize after the

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Arnd Hanses
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:33:40 +1000 (GMT+1000), Allan Rae wrote: > >[ here's my slightly modified version of Martin's PR] >[Don't want to much otherwise we won't have anything new to say for the > 1.2.0 release PR] > >LyX is an advanced open-source d

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-13 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>>>>> "Allan" == Allan Rae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I am very frustrated to see that I do not have much negative stuff to say about your PR 8-] I'll try anyway. >> These changes include: * Use of std::streams (istream, ostream, >> fstre

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-12 Thread Allan Rae
ld be able to pinch that from our previous PR] [ here's my slightly modified version of Martin's PR] [Don't want to much otherwise we won't have anything new to say for the 1.2.0 release PR] LyX is an advanced open-source document processor running on many Unix platforms and on

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-12 Thread Allan Rae
On 12 Jan 2000, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Michael> Hmmm, looks like Lyx 1.1.4 is almost finished. Not yet. > Michael> As you know I have experienced a lot of problems when > Michael> compiling Lyx with Sun CC (which IMHO ar

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Michael" == Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Hmmm, looks like Lyx 1.1.4 is almost finished. Michael> As you know I have experienced a lot of problems when Michael> compiling Lyx with Sun CC (which IMHO are no problems of Sun Michael> CC). I also uncovered a lot of runt

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Lars" == Lars Gullik Bjønnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lars> Purify does not nessiccarily detect runtime erros, it more like Lars> constructs to be wary about. Well, the error logs given by Michael have allowed me to find - a mismatched new/free() pair allocation in figinset, which may

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-11 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Michael Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Hmmm, | | looks like Lyx 1.1.4 is almost finished. | | As you know I have experienced a lot of problems when compiling Lyx with | Sun CC (which IMHO are no problems of Sun CC). I also uncovered a lot of | runtime errors when running Lyx with Purify

Re: Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-11 Thread Michael Schmitt
Hmmm, looks like Lyx 1.1.4 is almost finished. As you know I have experienced a lot of problems when compiling Lyx with Sun CC (which IMHO are no problems of Sun CC). I also uncovered a lot of runtime errors when running Lyx with Purify (it just takes me a few minutes to find some new bugs). T

Transitional series PR beta

2000-01-10 Thread Allan Rae
NOT FOR RELEASE DO NOT REMOVE THE ABOVE LINE Target audience: freshmeat, linuxdev.net, slashdot, icewalkers, c.o.l.a. [We need a brief introductory paragraph of what and who LyX and The LyX Team are. We should be able to pinch that from our previous PR] In September 1999 the LyX Team

Re: alfanum.cls, etc. (was: Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf)

1999-02-13 Thread Arnd Hanses
Thanks for all this friendly feedback, On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:59:16 +1000 (GMT+1000), Allan Rae wrote: >On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Arnd Hanses wrote: >> Also I'm looking forward to receive some bug reports, suggestions, >> fixes, etc. in order to improve this. > >One bug I fixed in LyX (after 1.0.0) th

Re: alfanum.cls, etc. (was: Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf)

1999-02-11 Thread Allan Rae
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Arnd Hanses wrote: > Hi, > > now that LyX 1.0.0 bug reporting is calming down a little, I would like > to discuss the possibility of releasing alfnum.cls, etc. > > The files I've mailed to the list a month ago, attached as alfanum.zip > or similar. If somebody has missed th

alfanum.cls, etc. (was: Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf)

1999-02-11 Thread Arnd Hanses
Hi, now that LyX 1.0.0 bug reporting is calming down a little, I would like to discuss the possibility of releasing alfnum.cls, etc. The files I've mailed to the list a month ago, attached as alfanum.zip or similar. If somebody has missed them, just ask me. Also I'm looking forward to receive s

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> I wouldn't be so sure... typically what you find are packages Martin> that change things to a different, but equally rigid scheme. Martin> This is really a thing that has disappointed me a little in Martin> LaTeX. Of course it

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Arnd" == Arnd Hanses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arnd> This is what I'm trying to do in a limited way with my Arnd> alfanum.cls: just adding things I'd like to see in LyX. (I'm Arnd> using LyX/2, the OS/2 port of Miyata san; three cheers for his Arnd> work, combined with EmTeX and XDVI/2 i

Re: Lyx 1.0.0 crashing on view/export DVI pr PS

1999-02-02 Thread Amir Karger
On Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 03:51:28PM -0200, Pedro Kroger wrote: > Hi all, > > I got the newest lyx, the 1.0.0 release, but I had some problems: > As in man page, I set the Enviroment LYX_DIR_10x to the libdir > /usr/X11R6/share/lyx in my profile and get the error : > > LYX_DIR_10x environment vari

Lyx 1.0.0 crashing on view/export DVI pr PS

1999-02-02 Thread Pedro Kroger
Hi all, I got the newest lyx, the 1.0.0 release, but I had some problems: As in man page, I set the Enviroment LYX_DIR_10x to the libdir /usr/X11R6/share/lyx in my profile and get the error : LYX_DIR_10x environment variable no good. System directory set to: ./ Any way I have the configurations

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-02 Thread Arnd Hanses
On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:57:28 +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: >> I would suggest also to have a look into jura.cls and alphanumeric.sty of CTAN. > >I did; looks fascinating. However this is not quite what I had in mind. >Didn't find alfanum.cls, though. Yes I see, your project is the fast and easy

Lyx 1.0.0 crashing on view/export DVI pr PS

1999-02-01 Thread Pedro Kroger
Hi all, I got the newest lyx, the 1.0.0 release, but I had some problems: As in man page, I set the Enviroment LYX_DIR_10x to the libdir /usr/X11R6/share/lyx in my profile and get the error : LYX_DIR_10x environment variable no good. System directory set to: ./ Any way I have the configurations

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Arnd Hanses
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 20:16:45 +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: >True. So lyxarticle.cls, lyxbook.cls, ... with same functionality >but "handles" added. Hmm? > This is what I'm trying to do in a limited way with my alfanum.cls: just adding things I'd like to see in LyX. (I'm using LyX/2, the OS/2

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
*Amir Karger writes: | Also, what makes it emacs-style? vim can do it too, e.g. Created when reading the vc.el files. Lgb

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Rich" == Rich Fields at 407 356 5842 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> That's why I think that, if we decide to build the ultimate >> configurable class, the first thing to do is ask for help on >> comp.text.tex. Such a project should be a pure LaTeX project at >> first. When it works, then

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Rich Fields at 407.356.5842
Jean-Marc writes > > "Rich" == Rich Fields at 407 356 5842 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Rich> This is where I fall short in using latex2e. I was a heavy > Rich> latex2.09 user starting in the mid/late-80s and had to create > Rich> significant hacks to areas like you are discussing and > Rich

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Rich" == Rich Fields at 407 356 5842 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rich> This is where I fall short in using latex2e. I was a heavy Rich> latex2.09 user starting in the mid/late-80s and had to create Rich> significant hacks to areas like you are discussing and Rich> more. Unfortunately, I t

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Rich Fields at 407.356.5842
> > > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Martin> While leafing through book.cls (renamed to fgibook.cls, > > Martin> fgibook.layout to follow) I noticed that there is so much > > Martin> stuff hardwired that could be put into a variable using > > Martin> \newcomman

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Martin Vermeer
> > "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Martin> While leafing through book.cls (renamed to fgibook.cls, > Martin> fgibook.layout to follow) I noticed that there is so much > Martin> stuff hardwired that could be put into a variable using > Martin> \newcommand. Some stuf

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> While leafing through book.cls (renamed to fgibook.cls, Martin> fgibook.layout to follow) I noticed that there is so much Martin> stuff hardwired that could be put into a variable using Martin> \newcommand. Some stuff is user re

PR 1.0.4

1999-01-31 Thread Martin Vermeer
Last minute corrections (mostly em-dash reduction) by Larry Marso. Martin --- Public release of LyX version 1.0.0 === LyX is an advanced open source document processor running on many Unix platforms. It is called a "document processor", because un

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-01-31 Thread Larry S. Marso
Ready to Rock & Roll. :-) Best regards -- Larry S. Marso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Jan 31, 1999 at 05:50:06PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > Here is the 1.0.3 version

Re: PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-01-31 Thread Amir Karger
[looks great, we all love it, blah blah blah] I have to agree with Larry on the "emacs-style" thing. Why not just say "version control for collaborative authoring". Anyone who knows what version control is doesn't need to be told it's emacs-style, while anyone who doesn't know has at least a *c

PR-1.0.3... and latexconf

1999-01-31 Thread Martin Vermeer
Here is the 1.0.3 version with two point corrections only. I have also been thinking about the "latexconf" idea, as this weekend I had to design a class file for out Institute's Reports series. (The proposed design was so awful that I couldn't keep my mouth shut. No good deed goes unpunished.)

PR-1.0.2

1999-01-30 Thread Martin Vermeer
Below. Mail me at home ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) during the weekend. Martin -- Public release of LyX version 1.0.0 === LyX is an advanced open source document processor running on many Unix platforms. It is called a "document processor"

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread David C. Brown N2RJT
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Martin Vermeer wrote: > I don't know about the PDP-10, but the PDP-11 is *very* well known to me. > > PDP-7 (quite different architecture) was one of the three original machines > that Unix was written for. > > PDP-11/10 was my first "personal computer" here at the institu

Re: PR-1.0.1

1999-01-29 Thread Larry S. Marso
Looking great! Nits follow ... On Fri, Jan 29, 1999 at 09:26:00PM +0200, Martin Vermeer wrote: > LyX produces high quality, > professionally *typeset* output -- using LaTeX, an open source, industrial > strength *typesetting* engine, in the background. // <- No need to say "types

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-29 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
*Garst R Reese writes: | Well, a friend of mine smuggled an asian apple-2e clone into | Indonesia by declaring to customs as a "Pineapple processor." I | don't like the "processor" terminology with either word or | document, but I have not come up with an alternative either. -- "Document Prep

PR-1.0.1

1999-01-29 Thread Martin Vermeer
c features are not (yet) supported in LyX.) localized ---> internationalized. (better?) (I have no info on OpenBSD) (Qt mentioned.) "Does this accurately capture the recent conniptions on the list?" (Probably not. But let's not hang our dirty laundry on the PR document

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> I don't know about the PDP-10, but the PDP-11 is *very* well Martin> known to me. Martin> PDP-7 (quite different architecture) was one of the three Martin> original machines that Unix was written for. You are right, of course

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Fre, 29 Jan 1999 Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: >jmarc jabbed, > > >> Amir> Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? > >> PDP-10? > >did someone actually put unix on those? Yes, I think so - pure assembler. C was developed to port Unix to the PDP-11, IIRC :-) Greetings, Jochen

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Martin Vermeer
> > "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Richard> jmarc jabbed, > Amir> Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? > > >> PDP-10? > > Richard> did someone actually put unix on those? > > I was under the impression that unix was developped for the PDP 1

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Richard" == Richard E Hawkins Esq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> jmarc jabbed, Amir> Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? >> PDP-10? Richard> did someone actually put unix on those? I was under the impression that unix was developped for the PDP 10. But I might be w

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
jmarc jabbed, > Amir> Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? > PDP-10? did someone actually put unix on those? Hmm, there must be something besides tops-10 and -20, since someone is still selling clones . . . --

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I thought the idea was to rename egcs to gcc 2.9 or 3.0 or anything >> and continue with the egcs developping model. After all, the 'e' in >> egcs stands for 'experimental'. >> >> Do you have links about this? I found nothin

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> I thought the idea was to rename egcs to gcc 2.9 or 3.0 or anything > and continue with the egcs developping model. After all, the 'e' in > egcs stands for 'experimental'. > > Do you have links about this? I found nothing on the egcs mailing lists. Yes, it seems you are right: http://www.cygn

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> Notice that gcc 2.9.0 will probably never come. egcs has Asger> overtaken the compiler area. There is no one working on gcc Asger> 2.8.x. I thought the idea was to rename egcs to gcc 2.9 or 3.0 or anything and continue

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> Unfortunately the compiler I use most of the time is the one which is > installed here at work. Since this is installed for 150+ users, they > don't change compiler versions every week. We had 2.8.1 installed 2 > monthes ago, and this is already a good thing. When gcc 2.9.0 (or > whatever it's c

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I used to. Now that I have gcc 2.8.1 installed, I don't really feel >> like compiling a 70M binary again :) Asger> If you use gcc 2.8.1, you should know that the gcc line as such Asger> is dead. egcs has overtaken all gcc d

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen
> I used to. Now that I have gcc 2.8.1 installed, I don't really feel > like compiling a 70M binary again :) If you use gcc 2.8.1, you should know that the gcc line as such is dead. egcs has overtaken all gcc development. Egcs v1.1 is supposedly better than gcc 2.8.1. Even RMS has expressed a w

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Asger" == Asger Alstrup Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Asger> We know of a few systems, where the provided compiler is not Asger> good enough. This includes systems with gcc 2.6.x, but also Asger> some of the proprietary ones. Jean-Marc is very helpful in Asger> compiling on DEC and

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-29 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
inux et al. are doing Amir> just fine in the press and don't need our PR help. "LyX runs on Amir> Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and most proprietary UNIX systems." Or Amir> even, "LyX runs on most UNIX platforms." (Is it really "most"? Amir> Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? PDP-10? JMarc

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Larry S. Marso
Yes, sorry LyX members. My email client sometimes encrypts messages when it's not appropriate. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 04:31:58PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: > Your last message was PGP signed! > > -Amir

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Larry S. Marso
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Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Asger Alstrup Nielsen
> I'll just reregister my opinion that while open source is a great thing, > it's not what we're selling here. We've mentioned that LyX (and latex) are > open source. Linux et al. are doing just fine in the press and don't need > our PR help. "Ly

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Amir Karger
mentioned that LyX (and latex) are open source. Linux et al. are doing just fine in the press and don't need our PR help. "LyX runs on Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, and most proprietary UNIX systems." Or even, "LyX runs on most UNIX platforms." (Is it really "most"? Do we know of a UNIX platform it *doesn't* run on? -Amir

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 01:24:06PM -0500, Larry S. Marso wrote: > LyX runs on standard Unix platforms, including Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD > and most proprietary Unix systems. Having taken another look, the above might better read: Lyx runs on the free, open source Unix platforms Linux, FreeBSD

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Martin Vermeer
> > "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Larry> Er, these are comments *on* Martin's latest. Best regards -- > > Isn't it a (partial) rewrite of Martin's latest?? > > I beginning to be lost in all these versions... > > JMarc It *was* a comment on my latest brainchild,

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Larry> Er, these are comments *on* Martin's latest. Best regards -- Isn't it a (partial) rewrite of Martin's latest?? I beginning to be lost in all these versions... JMarc

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Larry S. Marso
Er, these are comments *on* Martin's latest. Best regards -- Larry S. Marso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 04:03:10PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > This looks good. I'd say I like it almost as much as Martin's > latest. > > JMarc >

Re: Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-28 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Larry> I worked over the language. Hope this is helpful. Hi Larry, This looks good. I'd say I like it almost as much as Martin's latest. JMarc

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-28 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > I was a bit disappointed, at the time the message about SciWord was > sent to the list, to see that you did not show more interest for > it. So I just stored it, waiting for the right moment :) At that time I was rather busy with things I left t

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread Garst R. Reese
John Weiss wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:43:35AM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food proces

Comments on latest LyX-PR

1999-01-27 Thread Larry S. Marso
I worked over the language. Hope this is helpful. Public release of LyX version 1.0.0 === LyX, the Open Source Word Processor for Structured Documents LyX is an advanced, open source word processor for

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "John" == John Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> BTW, do we work on HPUX and AIX? Those two are popular John> platforms in parts of the business world Yes, we painfully manage to. It is much easier when people use gcc instead of the native compilers. JMarc

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-27 Thread John Weiss
Nix the Linux/X11 and Unix/X11. I agree with Larry and Amir --- the first sentence shouldn't mention Linux. In fact, it should simply say something like "...an open source word processor supported on multiple platforms [listed later]..." In the list of platforms towards the end of the document,

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread John Weiss
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:43:35AM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food processor", for > some strange reas

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Oops... well it's in The Usual Place (no not ftp.kernel.org) Martin> And below (I hope this time) Thanks. I like it, except for the few things that Amir already pointed (brilliantly, as always :). JMarc

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> Basically to fix several missfunctions in mathed, but some Alejandro> things could be considered as new features (and introduce Alejandro> new bugs). I'll write a repo soon. I was a bit disappointed, at the time

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Garst R. Reese
Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > > Alejandro> So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 > > Alejandro> frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX > > Alejandro> 1.0. That's your fault!! ;) > > > > I'm sorry about that

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Alejandro> So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 > Alejandro> frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX > Alejandro> 1.0. That's your fault!! ;) > > I'm sorry about that :) What do you have in mind? Basically to fix

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-26 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:56:23PM -0500, Amir Karger wrote: > > My one remaining gripe is the first sentence. IMO, saying "Linux" in the > first paragraph will immediately make SGI, HP, IBM, and other workstation > UNIX users suspect that it doesn't work on their platform. I object to "Linux/X

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> Here is a message we got some times ago describing features we >> could 'steal' from SciWord. There are interesting things there. Alejandro> So interesting t

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Here is a message we got some times ago describing features we could > 'steal' from SciWord. There are interesting things there. So interesting that I'm thinking on violating the 1.0 frozen in order to have a more decent mathed for LyX 1.0. Th

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-26 Thread Amir Karger
I like it. We can argue over & over, but we need *something* and I think this does a good job of reassuring LaTeX users, welcoming new users, and introducing the most important concept in the first paragraph. My one remaining gripe is the first sentence. IMO, saying "Linux" in the first paragraph

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread David S de Lis
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > > the term "document processor" makes me think

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-26 Thread Martin Vermeer
> >>>>> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Martin> Dear LyXnicians, Here is my choice of the pre-final LyX-PR > Martin> doc. > > Martin> (Did I forget anything?) > > Yes. The PR. :) > > JMarc Oops

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I agree that LyX as such is a word processor, but it's also a > document processor. I personally prefer "word processor", because > the term "document processor" makes me think of "food processor", for > some strange reason, although I haven

Re: Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Vermeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> Dear LyXnicians, Here is my choice of the pre-final LyX-PR Martin> doc. Martin> (Did I forget anything?) Yes. The PR. :) JMarc

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Alejandro" == Alejandro Aguilar Sierra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alejandro> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: >> I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as >> good as LyX. It's similar in many aspects, since it's built on top >> of LaTeX. It impo

Pre version (only one) of LyX-PR

1999-01-26 Thread Martin Vermeer
Dear LyXnicians, Here is my choice of the pre-final LyX-PR doc. It is based on no. 3, but I took out some of the worst advertising language, and made some other cleanups following all (well most of) your remarks. Made it more middle-of-the-road, more like version 2, but with IMO a better

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Alejandro Aguilar Sierra
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as > good as LyX. It's similar in many aspects, since it's built > on top of LaTeX. It imports LaTeX to a (very) limited degree. [...] > There are a few areas where they are ahea

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Die, 26 Jan 1999 Larry S. Marso wrote: >Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates >accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? What do you mean - you do want latex code produced by SciWord for empty docs, using different layouts ? >It might provi

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Larry" == Larry S Marso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Disclaimer: since I am painfully doing multitasking between the mailing list and my real work, don't take what I write this week as something I really think :) Larry> On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes Larry>

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Andre' Poenitz
> > Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates > accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? I am a bit confused on 'Scientific Word' and 'Scientific Workplace'. Anyway... At least the latter has a nice interface to Maple an a wide range of predef

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Larry S. Marso
Could an owner of Scientific Word post exported LaTeX of whatever templates accompany the "large range of document styles built in"? It might provide an interesting kick start to the Manhattan Project, the effort to develop templates and additional latexconfig's for LyX. Best regards -- Larry S

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Larry S. Marso
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 11:08:26AM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > The problem is not in the functionality, but in the spirit. Most > people I know use Word as a glorified MacWrite. They don't structure > their documents because word makes it easy to just manage words and > make them look

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Jochen Kuepper
On Die, 26 Jan 1999 Amir Karger wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: >> > Sorry to write it: Scientific Word/Workplace. >> > But actually most Word users might not know that Windoze program as well. >> >> I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program

Re: Three pre-versions of PR doc

1999-01-26 Thread Amir Karger
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:17:30PM +0100, Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: > > Sorry to write it: Scientific Word/Workplace. > > But actually most Word users might not know that Windoze program as well. > > I have Scientific Word 2.5. It's an ok program, but IMO not as > good as LyX. It's simila

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