Helge Hafting wrote:
>> could you give a meaningful example with specific layouts between
>> which you would be switching (out of curiosity) which would give rise
>> to the above?
> I can't remember a layout with default centering,
f.e. title in the article layout
> but I believe the headings a
Edwin Leuven wrote:
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
Edwin Leuven wrote:
case 2 is in my opinion not so relevant because i don't see why (in the
current solution) one would have default unchecked and then choose the
explicit alignment that matches default behavior
One such cases: I'm in Standard La
Richard Heck wrote:
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
What happends if the user moves the cursor when the dialog is open,
does it
get updated?
The dialog is presently modal, precisely because there's no reliable
trigger right now to do the update. Making this work involves re-working
the controlle
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
Leuven, E. wrote:
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
since default takes precedence things go fine in your example.
I see.
WRT the current situation, your approach tends to make things default (on
layout switching) against user will, which is sort of lyx philosophy: d
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
What happends if the user moves the cursor when the dialog is open, does it
get updated?
The dialog is presently modal, precisely because there's no reliable
trigger right now to do the update. Making this work involves re-working
the controller fairly extensively,
> I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced.
i was thinking like the attached...
Index: src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp
===
--- src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp (revision 18850)
+++ src/frontends/qt4/QParagraph.cpp (wo
Leuven, E. wrote:
> Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
>> Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard
>> Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would
>> have to manually center it. Awful.
>
> no.
>
> reread what i wrote:
That implies I've read it i
Leuven, E. wrote:
> you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the
> default is (and i think it does at the moment). so sometimes this will be
> justified, in other cases center, etc.
I obviously did. Sorry. I'm still not entirely convinced.
Jürgen
Juergen Spitzmueller wrote:
> Where do you get your stats from?
from a very reliable source
> I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto "standard"
> alignment.
?
you are misunderstanding me. the inset/layout should tell us what the default
is (and i think it does at the
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
> Let me give you another case: I often write my titles first in Standard
> Layout and *then* switch the layout to Title. With your approach I would
> have to manually center it. Awful.
no.
reread what i wrote:
"i would be fine with having the default take precedence in
Leuven, E. wrote:
>> No, they're not.
>
> where do you get your stats from?
Where do you get your stats from?
I just think it's wrong to assume that justified is the de facto "standard"
alignment. This might be true for standard paragraphs in most book and
article classes, for others it is not.
Leuven, E. wrote:
> so given that:
>
> - people don't switch document classes often (i for example never do)
> - switching document layouts often involve information loss because they
> do not define similar environments - case 1 & 2 are rare
Let me give you another case: I often write my titles
>> - case 1 & 2 are rare
>
> No, they're not.
where do you get your stats from?
Leuven, E. wrote:
> - case 1 & 2 are rare
No, they're not.
Jürgen
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
> Specially with new document classes I normally don't know what the layouts
> really are so I switch back and forth several times...
i agree that the only situation where this might reasonably occur is when
switching document classes.
so given that:
- people don't swi
Edwin Leuven wrote:
> Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
>> Edwin Leuven wrote:
>>
>>> case 2 is in my opinion not so relevant because i don't see why (in the
>>> current solution) one would have default unchecked and then choose the
>>> explicit alignment that matches default behavior
>>
>> One such cas
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
Edwin Leuven wrote:
case 2 is in my opinion not so relevant because i don't see why (in the
current solution) one would have default unchecked and then choose the
explicit alignment that matches default behavior
One such cases: I'm in Standard Layout and I want my pa
Edwin Leuven wrote:
> case 2 is in my opinion not so relevant because i don't see why (in the
> current solution) one would have default unchecked and then choose the
> explicit alignment that matches default behavior
One such cases: I'm in Standard Layout and I want my par centered so I set
it e
Alfredo Braunstein wrote:
This is bad. What if the user changes layout (or worse document class) and
the new layout has different default alignment? You are losing information
here.
ah, i see the problem now.
there seem to be 2 problem cases:
1 x is set and we change the default to x:
2 x (de
On Jun 21, 2007, at 17:28 , Richard Heck wrote:
Anders Ekberg wrote:
On 21 jun 2007, at 13.12, Helge Hafting wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
It shouldn't be a radio button just like the others, since it's
not an option in the way that the others are.
Sorry, but I consider that a bad argument. Sur
Bennett Helm wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Edwin Leuven wrote:
>
>> and this one doesn't make sense:
>>
>> if we could tell beforehand what the default was because then we
>> could show something like:
>>
>> o Justified (default)
>> o Left
>> o Center
>> o Right
>>
>>
>> ?
>>
>
> Of the
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Edwin Leuven wrote:
and this one doesn't make sense:
if we could tell beforehand what the default was because then we
could show something like:
o Justified (default)
o Left
o Center
o Right
?
Of the options I've seen, I agree that this is th
On Jun 21, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Edwin Leuven wrote:
and this one doesn't make sense:
if we could tell beforehand what the default was because then we
could show something like:
o Justified (default)
o Left
o Center
o Right
?
Of the options I've seen, I agree that this is the best.
Benne
and this one doesn't make sense:
if we could tell beforehand what the default was because then we could
show something like:
o Justified (default)
o Left
o Center
o Right
?
Anders Ekberg wrote:
On 21 jun 2007, at 13.12, Helge Hafting wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
It shouldn't be a radio button just like the others, since it's not
an option in the way that the others are.
Sorry, but I consider that a bad argument. Sure, "default" is a bit
different. That does NOT imp
On 21 jun 2007, at 13.12, Helge Hafting wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
It shouldn't be a radio button just like the others, since it's
not an option in the way that the others are.
Sorry, but I consider that a bad argument. Sure, "default" is a bit
different. That does NOT imply it can't be a ra
Bennett Helm wrote:
It shouldn't be a radio button just like the others, since it's not an
option in the way that the others are.
Sorry, but I consider that a bad argument. Sure, "default" is a bit
different. That does NOT imply it can't be a radio button like the rest.
To me, "default" mean
Bennett Helm wrote:
X Default
o Justified
o Left
o Center
o Right
maybe giving the choice between "default" or "environment default" and
"custom" or "force" makes it more explicit?
o Default
o Custom
o Justified
o Left
o Center
o Right
it would of course be nicer if we could
On Jun 20, 2007, at 6:22 PM, Anders Ekberg wrote:
Richard Heck
Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:30:21 -0700
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment
op
Richard Heck
Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:30:21 -0700
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options
always seem to be greyed out.
Did you uncheck
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options
always seem to be greyed out.
Did you uncheck the "Default" box?
Ah! Well, at least one reaso
On Jun 20, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Bennett Helm wrote:
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options
always seem
to be greyed out.
Did you uncheck the "Default" box?
Ah! Well, at least one reasonably intell
Bennett Helm wrote:
> On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>
>> 1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options
>> always seem
>> to be greyed out.
>
> Did you uncheck the "Default" box?
>
Ah! Well, at least one reasonably intelligent somewhat experienced lyx user
On Jun 20, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options
always seem
to be greyed out.
Did you uncheck the "Default" box?
Bennett
1.50rc1. Under paragraph settings dialog, all alignment options always seem
to be greyed out.
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