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From: John R Hudson
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 11:11:47 +
Subject: [PATCH] Insert entries for Hanging Paragraphs, Initials, Hyphenatable
Text Markup and Logical Markup in Chapter 4 Modules of Additional.lyx
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Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2011-07-25, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>
> > Independent of all your points, LyX should be designed for the average
> > user. And he doesn't know the LaTeX internals. LyX was once invented to
> > keep the LaTeX fiddling away from the users and this should be our aim
> > also for th
ments and we then can support
lettrine correctly and safely. Would that be OK for you?
Maybe a more prominent warning/documentation would help:
#DescriptionBegin
#Define character style for initials.
- #Hint: try to use math and its artistic font styles like Fractur or the
Calligraphi
On 22. juli 2011 22:41, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
[...]
Yes, that is sadly true. There are too many distributions of Linux and
Unix. I once tested out Fragalware and also Ubuntu and these two distros
had a completely different package managing system and also its LaTeX
implementation were different. I've
I'm therefore opting to remove the module and reintroduce it for LyX
> 2.1 when InsetLayout supports arguments and we then can support
> lettrine correctly and safely. Would that be OK for you?
Maybe a more prominent warning/documentation would help:
#DescriptionBegin
#Define char
on
one still needs TeX Code to get no LaTeX errors so it is more safe if we don't have that module.
Then LyX is not to blame if a document becomes uncompilable and the user who wants to use Initials
will read the lettrine docs.
My solution also required TeX Code and as Richard and Jürge
Am 23.07.2011 10:49, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
Initially I thought that I got confused, but it seems not. I've just
played with LyX-2.0.0-3-Installer-Bundle.exe under wine and the
default setting for MiKTeX on-the-fly installation is well 'Ask me
first' (see attached shot). My vote is for switchin
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Sometimes I'm really close to stop working for LyX. I'm frustrated that we
> don't focus on real life. Real life means for me that a student coming from
> school to the university has to write his first internship report. He will
> not know computer internals, knows perhaps a
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Julien Rioux
wrote:
> Great observation. Just like you, it also frustrates me to have to click
> yes/no a number of times, with several minutes inbetween each requests to
> the user, as packages are being downloaded one-by-one. However, it would
> frustrate me even
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
>> This is true only in part. It doesn't hold if 'Install on-the-fly' is
>> set to 'No', and it can backfire when set to 'Ask'.
>
> The LyX for Windows installer therefore sets it automatically to 'Install
> on-the-fly'.
>
>> I have recently instal
tware has bugs but to introduce a bug purposely is something I cannot
understand.
My style needs TeX Code but as explained I had to use this to overcome your error prone solution.
Moreover, when a user wants to use the Initials module, he will now see in the description, where to
find a documentati
Am 20.07.2011 20:25, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
what is written in the paragraphs around above shows that you have little idea
how
things are done except of the windows pond. texlive creature is way too big to
be installed and splitting it into parts where advanced parts are installed on
administrato
the 0.1 release before they switch from 1.6 to
> 2.0). And we cannot wait until LyX 2.1 because this might be a year and it
> is in my opinion not acceptable to provide a style that could lead to LaTeX
> errors.
*shrug*
this is call for Richard.
to summary my pov for better review:
- i
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> It is impossible to take care about every OS. For MiKTeX, MacTeX/TeXLive
> there is no problem and TeXLive works on all platforms.
>
> In your Linux distro, the package might be tricky to install in another
> distro it is not tricky. What is a common package in your distro migh
On 20/07/2011 1:35 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
Am 20.07.2011 18:55, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing
LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and
its
modules
On 20/07/2011 12:55 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
modules and can work offline for the future.
T
Am 20.07.2011 18:55, schrieb Liviu Andronic:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
modules and can work offline for the future.
T
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> But also with MiKTeX you only need Internet access when installing LyX. Then
> you already have all packages installed that are supported by LyX and its
> modules and can work offline for the future.
>
This is true only in part. It doesn't hold i
to keep the exotic package away from the UserGuide. But the EmbeddedObjecs manual
that contains now the Initials documentation was from its beginning designed to explain more special
features and therefore uses since ever some non-standard packages like e.g. arydshln and the like.
The first note
Le 20/07/2011 06:26, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
Am 20.07.2011 03:45, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
on many linux distros latex is divided on the basic packages and extra
sets for advanced usage only - not installed by default and without
any automatical setup on request like miktex on windows do.
It is imposs
Am 20.07.2011 06:06, schrieb Uwe Stöhr:
Attached is an example where you get a LaTeX error.
Here it is.
regards Uwe
newfile1.lyx
Description: application/lyx
.) For the special things like initials we have the
EmbeddedObjects and the Additional manual which are referenced at the beginning of the corresponding
sections in the UserGuide. These manuals also clearly state at the beginning what packages are
needed to see all their sections in the output.
Am 20.07.2011 03:32, schrieb Pavel Sanda:
I now wrote its documentation from scratch and saw that your module did not
work.
it depends what you mean by "works". if you just insert charstyle push character
there and start writing after charstyle inset it 'just works' (at least here).
By chanc
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Our manuals have to describe what you can do with LyX. There is no other
> way. It might always be possible that our docs are uncompilable. We cannot
> control what LaTeX-packages are installed on a system. Or where do you want
> to set the line?
i dont have any fixed rule bu
hould also add a note in the release notes that people should
> switch to the initials style. What do you think?
i'm not convinced yet. but that can change if you show me some realistic
example how the lettrine charstyle is unusable. for the few random examples
i tried myself it worked as it should.
pavel
Am 20.07.2011 00:02, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
Of course don't forget to doublecheck that it works (it is in 2.0 too).
I always compile every file as PDF before committing. This should btw. the
default procedure.
(The only exception are the Japanese files because I don't have ptex.)
rega
Le 19/07/11 19:57, Uwe Stöhr a écrit :
PS: BTW Uwe, did you see my messages about the \LyX macro? Since
r37164 it is robust under hyperref
and it is not necessary to redefine it in preamble.
Not yes. Thanks for the hint, I'll remove the corresponding preamble
code now.
Of course don't forget
Am 19.07.2011 12:11, schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes:
PS: BTW Uwe, did you see my messages about the \LyX macro? Since r37164 it is
robust under hyperref
and it is not necessary to redefine it in preamble.
Not yes. Thanks for the hint, I'll remove the corresponding preamble code now.
regards Uw
information needed.
Sorry, but
"Define character style for initials. Hint: try to use math and its artistic font styles like
Fractur or the Calligraphic one."
is no documentation. With this info the module is useless. Where should I use what, insert what?
Where comes the math, wha
Le 19/07/2011 11:55, Pavel Sanda a écrit :
as sidecomment i dont think that adding specific features which pull extra
packages into our manuals is a healthy thing. they are not compilable on
various situations then and produce strange errors like when we added mchem
notion into math manual and in
Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
>
> in the page http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 there was the icon that the
> initial module is documented. Where is it, I cannot find it?
i put the tickmark of documented feature when the module description inside
settings
dialog is enough to grab all information
Hartmut Haase wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
> > i have no idea how to get the '[ante=\lglqq, loversize=0.1]' part into the
> > output
> your approach neglects the possibilities of lettrine. You can only print the
> standard 2line initial, where lettrine has nine different parameters. A
> better approach wo
Hi Pavel,
> i have no idea how to get the '[ante=\lglqq, loversize=0.1]' part into the
> output
your approach neglects the possibilities of lettrine. You can only print the
standard 2line initial, where lettrine has nine different parameters. A
better approach would be to put something like "[]{
s in the initial to \lettrine{Text} or similar. Maybe you
> can
> check if the first character in the initial is a [, and convert everything to
>
> \lettrine[options]{Text}.
> I would like to check myself, but I don't find the .cpp file where initials
> are implemented.
i ju
eck if the first character in the initial is a [, and convert everything to
\lettrine[options]{Text}.
I would like to check myself, but I don't find the .cpp file where initials
are implemented.
The ante-option is not used very often, but the loversize-option is needed
because texlive prin
Hartmut Haase wrote:
> Hi Pavel,
> can we do something like the attached file with your new feature? If yes, how?
if you mean how to do the ERT
\lettrine[ante=\lglqq, loversize=0.1]{A}{ }
i have no idea how to get the '[ante=\lglqq, loversize=0.1]' part into the
output :(
the part '{A}{ }' can
Hi Pavel,
can we do something like the attached file with your new feature? If yes, how?
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