Re: finding the link to a thread [was: Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection]

2007-05-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 25 May 2007, Dov Feldstern wrote: Darren Freeman wrote: > If somebody could show me the "right" way to generate a link to a thread in the archives that doesn't take up much time I'll do that in future but it's pretty easy to copy-paste the subject and date so it's got to be pretty c

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-25 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 25 May 2007, Darren Freeman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you should at least file a bugzilla enhancement request, referring to this thread. This issue got absorbed into http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3680 where I've added a comment referring to this thread. If som

finding the link to a thread [was: Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection]

2007-05-25 Thread Dov Feldstern
Darren Freeman wrote: > If somebody could show me the "right" way to generate a link to a thread in the archives that doesn't take up much time I'll do that in future but it's pretty easy to copy-paste the subject and date so it's got to be pretty competitive :) If you look at the message's s

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-24 Thread Darren Freeman
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 08:38 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think you should at least file a bugzilla enhancement request, referring > to this thread. This issue got absorbed into http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3680 where I've added a comment referring to this thread. If somebody co

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-23 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 03:11:50PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Darren> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 11:43 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > >> Darren Freeman wrote: > Did anybody howl when XForms was dropped? > >> > > >> Yes they di

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 11:43 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: >> Darren Freeman wrote: > Did anybody howl when XForms was dropped? >> > >> Yes they did, for xforms has much better display performance than >> qt. Even you seems to co

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-23 Thread Darren Freeman
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 11:43 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Darren Freeman wrote: > > Did anybody howl when XForms was dropped? > > > Yes they did, for xforms has much better display performance than qt. > Even you seems to complain about slowness - I hope this can be optimized. But.. it.. wasn't

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-23 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Darren" == Darren Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Darren> Most people are afraid of doing that after a number of Darren> unexpected and counter-intuitive results. That's one reason I Darren> think those "Cancel" buttons should be renamed to "Close" by Darren> 1.5.0 since "Cancel" has a

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 23:48 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: It is of course nice if the transition from word to LyX can be made easier. But only as long as it don't get in the way of LyX useability. I think if anything counter-intuitive is changed to intuitive, there

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Wed, 23 May 2007, Darren Freeman wrote: This isn't an issue with a Word interface compatibility.. (and I hate Word so you can assume that from now on!) I can't think of any other application I have personally used where the bold function toggles the state across the whole selection. It's..

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 23:48 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 01:19:31AM +1000, Darren Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 16:13 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Correct. Of course, that don't mean the LyX way is the best way > > > everytime. But changing just to "be lik

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Helge Hafting
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 01:19:31AM +1000, Darren Freeman wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 16:13 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > Correct. Of course, that don't mean the LyX way is the best way > > everytime. But changing just to "be like others" isn't popular. > > The change had better be an improve

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 22 May 2007 4:19:31 pm Darren Freeman wrote: We welcome your reports. :-) Usually there is a good reason why things are done in a given way. We are open minded people who try to balance between stability of interface and a better interface, it is not an easy compromise as you can

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 16:13 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Correct. Of course, that don't mean the LyX way is the best way > everytime. But changing just to "be like others" isn't popular. > The change had better be an improvement on its own. LyX has > an existing userbase, they don't like change

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: Ummm... then LyX users are used to LyX behaving differently to most other apps :) Correct. Of course, that don't mean the LyX way is the best way everytime. But changing just to "be like others" isn't popular. The change had better be an improvement on its own. LyX has

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Darren Freeman
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 13:08 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Darren Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 11:17 -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > > >> I think this is a matter of getting used to how LyX works. It's true > >> that people coming from other programs will expect the behavior you > >> e

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-22 Thread Helge Hafting
Darren Freeman wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 11:17 -0400, Richard Heck wrote: I think this is a matter of getting used to how LyX works. It's true that people coming from other programs will expect the behavior you expected, but that's not the only way it can sensibly work. We can discuss here

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-21 Thread Darren Freeman
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 11:17 -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > I think this is a matter of getting used to how LyX works. It's true > that people coming from other programs will expect the behavior you > expected, but that's not the only way it can sensibly work. We can > discuss here which way it should

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-21 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 12:46:58AM +1000, Darren Freeman wrote: > Hi all, > > contrary to the behaviour a user would expect, hitting ctrl-B on a > selection with a mixture of bold/non-bold, simply toggles the state > leaving the opposite boldness on each character. > > One normally expects a mixt

Re: Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-21 Thread Richard Heck
I think this is a matter of getting used to how LyX works. It's true that people coming from other programs will expect the behavior you expected, but that's not the only way it can sensibly work. We can discuss here which way it should work. I can tell what your vote is. ;-) What is definitely a

Ctrl-B toggles bold state of a mixed selection

2007-05-21 Thread Darren Freeman
Hi all, contrary to the behaviour a user would expect, hitting ctrl-B on a selection with a mixture of bold/non-bold, simply toggles the state leaving the opposite boldness on each character. One normally expects a mixture to first go all bold, then on the next press it all goes non-bold. Otherwi