Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > the image ubuntu makes for lyx is bad. they are pushing not well tested > versions of qt/lyx into repo, but they do not update bugfixing releases > so user gets unstable lyx at the end. it happened with their last LTS 10.04 > (not well tested q

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Cor Blom
Op maandag 4 juli 2011 18:01:28 schreef Liviu Andronic: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: > >> I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should > >> always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. > > > > Normal users should not use this reposito

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: >> I do not think that's a good idea - LyX installed by the system should >> always be the last *released version*, and not BRANCH_2_0_X. > > Normal users should not use this repository, but stay with the package in > Publising. > Does Publishing alw

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
Liviu Andronic wrote: > Is this feasible? you know where the problems is only after the release. pavel

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I thought about that as well, but it might be problematic with Ubuntu: the > reason why ubuntu-tweak was not included in the ubuntu cd, was that it > contained mechanisms to add ppas to the system - it seems that ubuntu does > not like it if i

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to > their system (if ubuntu is happy with that) and also put the info in the > help files > One innocent Easter egg would be just this: for all non-stable releases and SVN/

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Cor Blom wrote: > Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: > > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > > > > > I have setup a project called "lyx-unstable" in my home project, with > two > > > packages: lyx (this is a regular build from br

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is > > one, offer to download it and install it. > > this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package > managment and there is no ma

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > I think asking Ubuntu to drop LyX from their official repos, was the > "extremistic" part of that solution, not the creation of a PPA. that was it :) p

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rainer M Krug wrote: > Check every week for updates and if there is a newer version, if there is > one, offer to download it and install it. this is really not our bussines. each distro has its own package managment and there is no man power to care about all of them (if you don't want to cripple

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Cor Blom
Op maandag 4 juli 2011 01:08:01 schreef Pavel Sanda: > Cor Blom wrote: > > I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) > > BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not > > think a similar approach would be feasible for OBS. > > btw these pages

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Cor Blom
Op maandag 4 juli 2011 10:54:13 schreef Rainer M Krug: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > > > I have setup a project called "lyx-unstable" in my home project, with two > > packages: lyx (this is a regular build from branch-2.0.x) and > > lyx-unstable (from trunk). The first is b

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

2011-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 04/07/2011 13:15, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : The problem is that external boost is in general compiled without stdlib-debug. Therefore you need to do that same with LyX itself. Does option --disable-stdlib-debug help? That seems to help I do not know how to make this test automatic, un

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:10 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to > > Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an "upgrade to > lyx-2.0.latest" in the about dialog,

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > I would rather inform the user about the ppa and how they can add it to Hmm, if we wanted to be really fancy we could add an "upgrade to lyx-2.0.latest" in the about dialog, and replace the "You have crashed, please report a bug" message with

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Checking > > > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx > > I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, > and > > it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: > > > > "Some fresh blo

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:38 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > > Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about > > building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel comfortable with this > > role. > > I don't think

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote: > Thanks for the trust you put in me, but I do not nearly know enough about > building software, configuration and ubuntu to feel comfortable with this > role. I don't think that Ubuntu would let you fill the role without a mentor anyway. I ima

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

2011-07-04 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : >> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' >>   what():  std::bad_alloc > > The problem is that external boost is in general compiled without > stdlib-debug. The

Re: LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Pavel Sanda
Rainer M Krug wrote: > Checking > > http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx > I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and > it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: > > "Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too" > (Sven, > http://lists.ali

LyX Ubuntu package contributions --- WAS: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
Checking http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/lyx I found that Per Olofson and Sven Hoexter are the original maintainers, and it seems they would not mind somebody new in the team: "Some fresh blood for the pkg-lyx team would be cool too" (Sven, http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lyx-devel/

Re: Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS suddenly broke --without-included-boost?

2011-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/07/2011 15:17, John McCabe-Dansted a écrit : Whenever I try to run a recent version of trunk I get the error below. This does not seem to be a regession in LyX but rather a regression in the Ubuntu boost... except that they don't seem to have changed that recently. I don't really know what

Re: r39231 - in lyx-devel/trunk: lib/doc src

2011-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 03/07/2011 02:47, Richard Heck a écrit : If there are no string changes, go now, if you wish. Any news on ftp? The news as of 30/06 is that there is no news :( This is getting really annoying. JMarc

Re: \textvisiblespace

2011-07-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Le 02/07/2011 22:24, Guenter Milde a écrit : Frankly, inserting special characters is a nightmare to me. You look at an endless list of unicode characters, and you only know whether they render in the GUI main font. Then you insert it in the document, it shows or not on your screen (depending on

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Liviu Andronic > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > >> yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do much about > the > >> whole thing except extremistic "sol

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote: > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > > yes this was the idea. otherwise i dont believe we can't do much about > the > > whole thing except extremistic "solutions" like doing ppas and ask ubuntu > > > devs to stop producing l

Re: LyX daily build and 2.0.x ppa

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote: > John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > > Possibly we could try to get Rainer recognized as a Per-package > > Uploader for LyX, if Rainer wants this. Getting involved in Ubuntu is > > reputably easier than Debian. This would involve some collaboration >

Re: openSUSE Build Service

2011-07-04 Thread Rainer M Krug
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Cor Blom wrote: > I have set up a project for building binaries from svn in the open(SUSE) > BuildService. After reading the discussion on the Ubuntu ppa I did not > think a > similar approach would be feasible for OBS. > Great - thanks a lot Cor. You are doing m