Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Rob Oakes
Oh, and one other question. Is there a place where I could download the packaged Oxygen theme? I'm curious to play with it and see how it looks. Cheers, Rob

Re: ANNOUNCE: LyX version 2.0.0 (beta 4)

2011-02-20 Thread Ben M.
For anyone else who used the unofficial Windows installer and now gets the error messages The layout file requested by this document x.layout is not usable... please see my bug report for the fix. http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/7315 -Ben 2011/2/14 Michal : >> Thanks so much for doing this

Re: r37666 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/bind

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > > if not then we need to add it as well. > > Yes, I can do it. > > > (perhaps we should share the same bindings and inherit them in both cua > > and mac?) > > This is done already for many bindings but not for all. i'm fine with both solutions. pavel

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > If I am the only one objecting, it is correct that I have to be the > one using a local icon set. i will be also using the old ones. but as being said previously, there is solution which should satisfy both camps. oxygen as default and possibility to switch to old one l

Re: auto add AMS math package when using Cases envirnoment

2011-02-20 Thread Xu Wang
Example file is attached. I'm using the book document class. I also have no idea why the pdf default settings for me are: \pdf_title "The LyX Tutorial" \pdf_author "LyX Team" \pdf_subject "LyX-documentation Tutorial" \pdf_keywords "LyX, documentation" Thanks, Xu On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Enrico Forestieri" wrote in message news:20110220155614.GE1772@GIOVE... OK. But as we already have a consistent set of icons, why throwing out of the window something that already required a huge amount of work? There could simply be a new option "use the new, shiny, wonderful oxygen icons"?

Re: auto add AMS math package when using Cases envirnoment

2011-02-20 Thread Richard Heck
On 02/20/2011 11:21 AM, Xu Wang wrote: By default, when one use the cases environment and beginners do not know that they have to add the AMS math option. Could we either add the package whenever the user inserts a case environment or at least alert the user that he must add the package when

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 05:32:25PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > But I will leave this discussion now. If it is so difficult to come to a > consensus, just leave everything as is. I will use my own icon set here > locally, as I used to. No, that's not correct. We have only heard a couple (

Re: r37666 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/bind

2011-02-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.02.2011 um 18:08 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Stephan Witt wrote: >> Am 14.02.2011 um 21:31 schrieb sa...@lyx.org: >> >>> Author: sanda >>> Date: Mon Feb 14 21:31:46 2011 >>> New Revision: 37666 >>> URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/37666 >>> >>> Log: >>> Give new shortcut for default viewi

Re: r37666 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/bind

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > Am 14.02.2011 um 21:31 schrieb sa...@lyx.org: > > > Author: sanda > > Date: Mon Feb 14 21:31:46 2011 > > New Revision: 37666 > > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/37666 > > > > Log: > > Give new shortcut for default viewing. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lis

Re: r37666 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/bind

2011-02-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 14.02.2011 um 21:31 schrieb sa...@lyx.org: > Author: sanda > Date: Mon Feb 14 21:31:46 2011 > New Revision: 37666 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/37666 > > Log: > Give new shortcut for default viewing. > http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg165590.html > > Closing #

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > OK. But as we already have a consistent set of icons, why throwing out > of the window something that already required a huge amount of work? The current icon set is by no means consistent. But I will leave this discussion now. If it is so difficult to come to a consen

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > Introducing more variants will reduce the > > consistency and make it a lot harder to introduce new toolbars and > > icons. basically i didn't want to introduce more variants but to keep possible the old set. its hardwired in my brain and its painful to reprogram it.

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:52:59PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > BTW you know that you can freely chose different icon sets at least on > > > KDE and GNOME. But all these sets, no matter how different the design, > > > stick to the default sizes, AFAICS. > > >

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:49:19PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Joost Verburg wrote: > > > we would just create new dir > > > "oxygen", or perhaps someone will prepare "tango" and "win". > > > we would always try to load image from this directory and then have > > > fallback > > > to the ol

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:50:37PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > The old set was mostly neutral to the outer > > environment (it fitted to KDE, Gnome or Win without much pain). > > No. The old icon set was a mixup of KDE2 icons, some self-designed icons > from th

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:34:29PM +0100, Joost Verburg wrote: > "Pavel Sanda" wrote in message > news:20110220151223.ge26...@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... > >we would just create new dir > >"oxygen", or perhaps someone will prepare "tango" and "win". > >we would always try to load image from this

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > BTW you know that you can freely chose different icon sets at least on > > KDE and GNOME. But all these sets, no matter how different the design, > > stick to the default sizes, AFAICS. > > Ok, so we stick to one default size. Then, we should have 16x16 instead > of 18

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > The old set was mostly neutral to the outer > environment (it fitted to KDE, Gnome or Win without much pain). No. The old icon set was a mixup of KDE2 icons, some self-designed icons from the xforms age and some other icons from different sets. It was a mess, and it wa

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Joost Verburg wrote: > > we would just create new dir > > "oxygen", or perhaps someone will prepare "tango" and "win". > > we would always try to load image from this directory and then have > > fallback > > to the old set if image not found. (i have no opinion about the default > > loaded set).

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Pavel Sanda" wrote in message news:20110220151223.ge26...@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz... we would just create new dir "oxygen", or perhaps someone will prepare "tango" and "win". we would always try to load image from this directory and then have fallback to the old set if image not found. (i hav

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 04:12:24PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote: > Joost Verburg wrote: > > Here's the new icon set I worked on with Jürgen! It's based on the Oxygen > > style. > > Shall I put it in? > > one question - is it really so difficult to fix "multiple icon sets" as well > for 2.0? I full

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Joost Verburg wrote: > Here's the new icon set I worked on with Jürgen! It's based on the Oxygen > style. > Shall I put it in? one question - is it really so difficult to fix "multiple icon sets" as well for 2.0? we would just create new dir "oxygen", or perhaps someone will prepare "tango" and

Towards rc1 (status update #2)

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Pavel Sanda wrote: > thus i plan release candidate 1 around 7. march. few more notes: i would like to make soft freeze one week before, in order to avoid needless regressions. (RC is most probaly going to reach more linux repos and users and it should mean what is says - candidate for release.) a

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 03:36:02PM +0100, Joost Verburg wrote: > Here's the new icon set I worked on with Jürgen! It's based on the > Oxygen style. > Shall I put it in? Please, give me time to make a backup of the old set :) -- Enrico (vocal anti-hero)

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Enrico Forestieri" wrote in message news:20110220143302.GB1772@GIOVE... But your argument only holds for a *specific* size, as all other sizes are obtained by scaling that specific size. So, what is the rationale of having 16x16 instead of 18x18 if both are going to be scaled down from the 22x2

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 03:00:52PM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > It does not hold because only the sizes would be standard, not the icons > > themselves, which are wildly different between OSes and even between > > desktop environments in the same OS. > > Sure.

Re: key not recognized in keybindings (Mac, trunk)

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > I can circumvent this with many many #ifdef's but it would be easier > if Alt key makes AltModifier and Meta makes MetaModifier. this strikes me as a correct solution. and all our 'M' chars in bind files should be 'A' then. however i'm doubtful about pushing this change to th

Re: key not recognized in keybindings (Mac, trunk)

2011-02-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 20.02.2011 um 15:11 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Stephan Witt wrote: >> One general question: why is Alt and Meta in LyX key bindings the same? > > because most of the keyboards nowadays dont have meta key? > i remember to see it on some sun keyboards in one of our uni labs > 10 years back. they loo

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Joost Verburg
"Jürgen Spitzmüller" wrote in message news:201102191746.11671.sp...@lyx.org... I think we should finally stick with the standard sizes (16x16, 22x22, 32x32, 48x48). That is: increase smallIconSize from 14 to 16 and bigIconSize from 26 to 32. Increasing the bigIconSize to 32 does not make se

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jim Oldfield
> From: Jim Oldfield > > On Windows the ONLY standard toolbar icon size is 16x16, at least judging by > Microsoft programs. Sorry, I was wrong. They are 16x16 and 24x24. See the link below (especially figure 4). However 16x16 is by far the most common in applications (as opposed to uti

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jim Oldfield
> From: Jürgen Spitzmüller > > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > We are talking about toolbar icons here > > Yes, I was talking about standard toolbar icon sizes, as common on all OSes. > On Windows the ONLY standard toolbar icon size is 16x16, at least judging by Microsoft programs. So it

Re: key not recognized in keybindings (Mac, trunk)

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Stephan Witt wrote: > One general question: why is Alt and Meta in LyX key bindings the same? because most of the keyboards nowadays dont have meta key? i remember to see it on some sun keyboards in one of our uni labs 10 years back. they looked archeological even at that time :) > Which platform

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Kornel
Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Kornel wrote: > > > reasoning behind my proposal is that its much easier to work with plain > > > .lyx files and to review what actually being set manually, ie non > > > defaults. its useful for people who write scritps around or do some > > > rev

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > It does not hold because only the sizes would be standard, not the icons > themselves, which are wildly different between OSes and even between > desktop environments in the same OS. Sure. Where did I speak of default icons (or stock icons, for that matter)? I always r

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > we dont have any definitive policy about this, some prefs are written > explicitely, some not. my proposal would be to make explicit dump of > only those, which have some probability to chnage its defaults in future > versions... > > i have actually more candidates in 2.0 head

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:39:09AM +0100, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > If it was possible to tell lyx to use standard OS icons, then your > > proposable would be sensible. But it is not possible to do so. > > I understand that you want to take advantage of already exist

Re: key not recognized in keybindings (Mac, trunk)

2011-02-20 Thread Stephan Witt
Am 17.02.2011 um 07:40 schrieb Stephan Witt: > Am 17.02.2011 um 03:31 schrieb BH: > >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote: >>> BH wrote: On Mac with current trunk, the key is not recognized for any keybindings. (The Mac standard is for -[arrow key] to move the cu

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Kornel wrote: > > reasoning behind my proposal is that its much easier to work with plain > > .lyx files and to review what actually being set manually, ie non defaults. > > its useful for people who write scritps around or do some revision control > > on .lyx material. > > > > we dont have any de

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Kornel
Am Sonntag, 20. Februar 2011 schrieb Pavel Sanda: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > > +\language_package default > > > > > > what about output this inly when nondefault is used? > > > > No strict opinion, but I prefer to have everything explicitly defined. > > reasoning be

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: > Pavel Sanda wrote: > > > +\language_package default > > > > what about output this inly when nondefault is used? > > No strict opinion, but I prefer to have everything explicitly defined. reasoning behind my proposal is that its much easier to work with plain .lyx fil

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Pavel Sanda wrote: > > +\language_package default > > what about output this inly when nondefault is used? No strict opinion, but I prefer to have everything explicitly defined. Jürgen

Re: r37741 - lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc

2011-02-20 Thread Pavel Sanda
sa...@lyx.org wrote: > Author: sanda > Date: Sun Feb 20 13:46:33 2011 > New Revision: 37741 > URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/37741 > > Log: > * Additional.lyx > > Modified: >lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc/Additional.lyx > > Modified: lyx-devel/trunk/lib/doc/Additional.lyx >

Re: Icons

2011-02-20 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Enrico Forestieri wrote: > If it was possible to tell lyx to use standard OS icons, then your > proposable would be sensible. But it is not possible to do so. > I understand that you want to take advantage of already existing > icons sets, but you can only do that for some icons. In conclusion, > t