Re: Re[2]: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Bo Peng
> What will happen if I try to send an attachment to the mailing list? > Is it allowed? > Please send the detailed instructions on how to do this to the list. After we get rid of perl and mingw and have python scripts compiled like this, we will be much closer to an everything-included lyx distrib

Re: Grumpy me

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > There is also a bug that I never filed :) Insert>File is dead broken. In which respect? Jürgen

Re[2]: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Alex
Dear Mike, >> > The downside is that you wind up with one copy of Python installed for >> > every script. If you've only got one script, this is ok. If you've got >> > more than one, you probably want to consider another approach. >> It will be the same, using several scripts, too. >> >> I have

Re[2]: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Alex
Dear Bo, >> > I found that I could convert all the python script to .exe. >> > Thus I can remove Pyhthon dependecy. >> >> Are you sure? > Also, there are some dynamically generated sh scripts that might be > translated to dynamically generated python script later so an > interpreter is needed. I

Re: ICU - uneasy feeling

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > I have been trying to look at the ICU api, but I find the > documentation utterly confusing and hard to get a clear understanding > on how it works. (Probably caused be me not finding a "Hello World" > code snippet) > > Also, I must say, some of this is based on really

ICU - uneasy feeling

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
I have been trying to look at the ICU api, but I find the documentation utterly confusing and hard to get a clear understanding on how it works. (Probably caused be me not finding a "Hello World" code snippet) Also, I must say, some of this is based on really old (before 2000) ideas on how to wri

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:50:53PM +, Luis Rivera wrote: > > Are you trying to compile for xforms or for qt? > > I did it with xforms. > > I'm trying with qt... > > Now I'll try --with-included-gettext (thanks to Lars!) > > > I do both all the time with LyX CVS. Maybe I can help you. > >

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Luis Rivera
Kayvan A. Sylvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:31:22PM +, Luis Rivera wrote: > > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes ...> writes: > > > > > > > > > "Luis" == Luis Rivera ...> writes: > > > > > > Luis> And then it failed almost at the end of compilation. I attach > > > L

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > When did we have 220? 1.2 as the header says. :-) To know those relations either visit the archaeology page or read LyX.py in lyx2lyx > Lgb -- José Matos

Re: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Bo Peng
> > I found that I could convert all the python script to .exe. > > Thus I can remove Pyhthon dependecy. > > Are you sure? Also, there are some dynamically generated sh scripts that might be translated to dynamically generated python script later so an interpreter is needed. Bo

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Re: New bug 2094

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Angus Leeming wrote: > > Juergen had a fix there. > > Great! But it needs very good testing. I just have enabled a function I found. I don't know if it has any side effects (and why André left it commented out). Jürgen

Re: LyX 1.4 on Windows (MinGW)

2005-10-12 Thread Michael Gerz
Martin Vermeer wrote: Neither am I... but I did it anyway, just to get the stuff working. But your idea is better. All you have to do, at start-up, is 1) Check that a locale is defined, and if not, define en_US; 2) remove any encoding suffixes like fi_FI.utf-8 --> fi_FI. Doing it in one place

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Luis" == Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luis> Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > "Luis" == Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Luis> And then it failed almost at the end of compilation. I attach Luis> config.log and error.log reporting the errors...

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I assume it is my fault, since I don't know exactly how to install nls | support. However, I think ./configure should report it, to keep people | away from assuming nls will be working. | | Anyway, I went ahead and tried | | ./configure --with-frontend

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Kayvan A. Sylvan
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:31:22PM +, Luis Rivera wrote: > Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > "Luis" == Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Luis> And then it failed almost at the end of compilation. I attach > > Luis> config.log and error.log reporti

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > So where did that file come from? | | See http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088. It was appereantly | generated by an old LyX version. It is in format 220. When did we have 220? -- Lgb

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Luis Rivera
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > "Luis" == Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Luis> And then it failed almost at the end of compilation. I attach > Luis> config.log and error.log reporting the errors... > > Didn't you forget them? > Yep. I realized as soon

Re: [patch] fix bug 2059 (cut and paste in mathed)

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2005 18:22 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: > > "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Georg> Daniel Watkins wrote: > >> This one works for me, in conjunction with the undo patch. > > Georg> Can the two patches go in? > > Yes. Just remove the "MathGridIns

Re: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > > The downside is that you wind up with one copy of Python installed for > > every script. If you've only got one script, this is ok. If you've got > > more than one, you probably want to consider another approach. > It will be the same, using seve

Re[2]: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Alex
Dear Mike, > Are you sure? The only way I know of to convert a python script to > .exe is with py2exe, which does it by creating an executable archive, > and putting all the scripts that make up the program and the python > interpreter in the archive. It doesn't remove the Python dependency so > m

Re: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Alex
Dear Mike, > Are you sure? The only way I know of to convert a python script to > .exe is with py2exe, which does it by creating an executable archive, > and putting all the scripts that make up the program and the python > interpreter in the archive. It doesn't remove the Python dependency so > m

Re: LyX-140pre2: Minor Mac issues

2005-10-12 Thread Bennett Helm
On Oct 12, 2005, at 6:05 AM, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | Second (and very minor), I noticed that on a clean installation, the | LyX user's directory is ~/Library/Application\ Support/lyx; it should | be

LyX/Mac 1.4.0pre2 crash on open new file

2005-10-12 Thread Bennett Helm
I reported this bug before, and Andreas developed a patch to fix it. However, the patch has apparently fallen through the cracks, and the bug is still present in 1.4.0pre2. The problem is this: LyX-140 on Mac will crash *when using key bindings* for File > Open, File > New, and File > New f

Re: lyx: Error detected by libpthread: Destroying locked mutex.

2005-10-12 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Angus Leeming wrote: Anyway, trying to unlock a mutex that is already unlocked will result in undefined behaviour when using POSIX threads. See, for example Section 3.3.2 "Locking and unlocking a mutex" of "Programming with POSIX threads" by David R Butenhof. So, I'm not go

Re: Back to basics.

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Jose'> It is a shame that Angus work has been lost. :-( > Yes... That'll learn me not to commit to a repository :( The work got lost when Lars kicked me off baywatch and I didn't think before `rm -r ~/public_html/www-user` ... -- Angus

Re: 1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Luis" == Luis Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Luis> And then it failed almost at the end of compilation. I attach Luis> config.log and error.log reporting the errors... Didn't you forget them? JMarc

Re: [patch] fix bug 2059 (cut and paste in mathed)

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Daniel Watkins wrote: >> This one works for me, in conjunction with the undo patch. Georg> Can the two patches go in? Yes. Just remove the "MathGridInset: PASTE:" lyxerr message, while you are at it. JMarc

Re: [patch] math undo fixes in 1.4

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Georg" == Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Georg> Open a new document. Open a new math formula with C-M, and type Georg> \sqrt. The result is of course an empty sqrt inset. Now Georg> undo and get a nice crash. If you insert the sqrt via the math Georg> panel you get no crash, but hav

Re: Back to basics.

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose'" == Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose'> On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:25, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >> What about posting this on the news section of www.lyx.org? Jose'> I don't have write cvs access to the www-users module. :-) Lars? Jose'> It is quite interest

Re: Bug 2090: Failure to handle old 1.3 documents with single-quoting style

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jose' Matos wrote: > > Additionally, we could force \quotes_times to 2 between 229 and 230. > >   What is the difference if you don't do it? Files up to the forthcoming version might have the described bug (single quotes enabled, which does not make sense and basically breaks quotation mark hand

1.4.0pre2 on cygwin

2005-10-12 Thread Luis Rivera
Hello, I want to report that LyX 1.4.0pre2 compiles and runs succesfully on cygwin+xwin+MiKTeX... However, there seems to be a problem with pch and nls. A first shot at it, running ./configure --with-frontend=xforms --with-extra-prefix=/usr/local --without-latex-config reported something miss

Re: Back to basics.

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:25, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > What about posting this on the news section of www.lyx.org? I don't have write cvs access to the www-users module. :-) It is quite interesting to add, as well as converting the archaeology to the site. :-) It is a shame t

[PATCHes] adapt i18n stats to new devel site.

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
The following pair of patches adapts postats.sh to the new site. Committing now, along with some small changes to the site itself. JMarc Index: po/ChangeLog === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/po/ChangeLog,v retrieving r

Re: New bug 2094

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Martin Vermeer wrote: >> Detailed description and recipe to recreate here: >> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2094 > Isn't 2083 the same bug? Looks like. I've marked 2094 as a duplicate. > Juergen had a fix there. Great! -- Angus

Re: New bug 2094

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 16:12 +0100, Angus Leeming wrote: > Navigation with the arrow keys through a math inset when a float is open on > the same screen leads to a crash. > > Assertion triggered in virtual void InsetCollapsable::cursorPos(const > CursorSlice&, bool, int&, int&) const by failing che

New bug 2094

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Navigation with the arrow keys through a math inset when a float is open on the same screen leads to a crash. Assertion triggered in virtual void InsetCollapsable::cursorPos(const CursorSlice&, bool, int&, int&) const by failing check "status() != Collapsed" in file ../../../src/insets/insetcollap

Re: Math fonts look fuzzy in lyx_1.4.0cvs

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Anand Rangarajan wrote: > For a while now (about a year), I've noticed that math fonts look > fuzzy in lyx_1.4.0cvs. In contrast, they look fine for lyx_1.3.x on the > same machine. I've attached a screenshot. Yes, I get this too on both a FC3 i686 machine and on an Alpha running Debian unstable.

Re: Python script conversion

2005-10-12 Thread Mike Meyer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: > Dears, > > I found that I could convert all the python script to .exe. > Thus I can remove Pyhthon dependecy. Are you sure? The only way I know of to convert a python script to .exe is with py2exe, which does it by creating an executable archive,

Re: RFC: GThesaurus.C et al.

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Bernhard Reiter wrote: > first things first... > >> One thing before I move on to the code. Can I have your formal agreement >> that you agree to licence your contributions under the terms of the GNU >> General Public Licence (GPL) version 2 or later? It's enough to reply to >> this mail. I'll ad

Re: Bug 2090: Failure to handle old 1.3 documents with single-quoting style

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jose' Matos wrote: > > Should I prepare a patch with another file format change? > >   Yes. Patch attached. Please review. Am I right that norhing has to be done on lyx2lyx reversion? Jürgen Index: development/FORMAT === RCS file:

Re: RFC: GThesaurus.C et al.

2005-10-12 Thread Bernhard Reiter
first things first... > One thing before I move on to the code. Can I have your formal agreement > that you agree to licence your contributions under the terms of the GNU > General Public Licence (GPL) version 2 or later? It's enough to reply to > this mail. I'll add a reference to your "yes" to

Re: LyX-140pre2: Minor Mac issues

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Ahh, Jean-Marc, you sly old dog! I am still not sure whether I should take offense at "sly". But at least you got me to look it up in the dictionary... JMarc

Re: LyX-140pre2: Minor Mac issues

2005-10-12 Thread Angus Leeming
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Angus> Ok, looks like some things fell between the cracks. The > Angus> attached pair of patches sync the two LyX versions. I'll commit > Angus> both as they're obviously correct. > > Well, the 1.4.x version is not obviously correct. I have decided in > head to set ex

Re: [patch] bug 2066: C-i for opening/closing insets only works when cursor is at the beginning of the inset

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Could you explain what makes tabular special? If I only knew. > If special code is needed, what about putting it in > InsetTabular::dispatch, or in some other InsetTabular method? That does not work, but don't ask me why. Jürgen

Re: Back to basics.

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Jose'" == Jose' Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jose'> Lets us say no more, let us abandon 1.4, no need to Jose'> have such release. Soon celebrating the 10 years of the first Jose'> still available source code in the lyx ftp site I propose a new Jose'> path. What about posting t

Re: [patch] bug 2066: C-i for opening/closing insets only works when cursor is at the beginning of the inset

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Juergen" == Juergen Spitzmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Juergen> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2066 The attached Juergen> patch does not only restore the behaviour of C-i like it was Juergen> in 1.3, but also fixes two crashes with C-i and Juergen> all-insets-toggle when tabu

Re: Minor Mac patches for 1.4.0 and 1.3.x

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bennett" == Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bennett> 2. mac-lyxeditor.diff updates the shell script, which is used Bennett> to enable LyX/Mac to interact with .lyxpipe, to use the new Bennett> location of the LyX user's directory. This should apply to Bennett> both 1.4.0 and 1.3.x

Re: LyX 1.4 on Windows (MinGW)

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 11:54 +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 09:07 +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > >> Also true. But I have to admit that I don't understand the current > >> machinery. For example, why not simply strip the suffix from the > >> environment var

Re: Bug 2090: Failure to handle old 1.3 documents with single-quoting style

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 10:58, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: > Should I prepare a patch with another file format change? Yes. > Additionally, we could force \quotes_times to 2 between 229 and 230. What is the difference if you don't do it? > Jürgen -- José Abílio

Re: LyX-140pre2: Minor Mac issues

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Angus> Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> | Second (and very minor), I noticed that on a clean installation, >> the | LyX user's directory is ~/Library/Application\ Support/lyx; >> it should | be ~/Library/Application\ Support/LyX -- both for >

Re: LyX 1.4 on Windows (MinGW)

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Martin Vermeer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 09:07 +0200, Georg Baum wrote: >> Also true. But I have to admit that I don't understand the current >> machinery. For example, why not simply strip the suffix from the >> environment variables once on program start, set the new environment >> variable

Re: Bug 2090: Failure to handle old 1.3 documents with single-quoting style

2005-10-12 Thread Juergen Spitzmueller
Helge Hafting wrote: > Create a document with lyx 1.3  Set the quoting style to single quotes > instead of the usual doubles. > > Open this document in lyx-1.4  Notice how it is impossible to turn > single-quoting off again, as lyx-1.4 don't have this in the GUI > anymore.  The problem persists as

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > So where did that file come from? See http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2088. It was appereantly generated by an old LyX version. It is in format 220. Georg

Re: LyX 1.4 on Windows (MinGW)

2005-10-12 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 09:07 +0200, Georg Baum wrote: > Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 00:42 +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) > >> writes: > >> > >> | To be quite honest I belive we should revert messages.C to the simple > >> | state

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: | | > Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > writes: | > | > | I did not know that an empty \layout is valid, but both 1.3 and 1.4 can | > | read that, so I made lyx2lyx understand it, too. | > | | > | OK to commit? | > | > Where

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > | I did not know that an empty \layout is valid, but both 1.3 and 1.4 can > | read that, so I made lyx2lyx understand it, too. > | > | OK to commit? > > Where did you find those empty \layout ? In this case in the exampl

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Jose' Matos wrote: > We do it in several places and this would fix all of them. This should be > done for 1.4.1 at least. > > We have also other parts of the code where this test is done. Really? I glanced over lyx_1_4.py and could not find anything. > FWIW I consider this to be a bug from

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 09:37, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: > > Where did you find those empty \layout ? I have found them in previous versions but I thought this was not possible anymore. > It is a bug that they exist int he first place. Agreed. -- José Abílio

Re: Bug 2091: Wrong typography when mixing single & double quotes (1.4cvs)

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Discovered by Jim Osborn | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who seems to understand | better than me what kind of latex ought to be generated. | | Some quoting styles have problems with this sentence: | "The word is 'foo'", he said. Look at the "Ligature Break" in

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Lars Gullik Bjønnes
Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I did not know that an empty \layout is valid, but both 1.3 and 1.4 can read | that, so I made lyx2lyx understand it, too. | | OK to commit? Where did you find those empty \layout ? It is a bug that they exist int he first place. -- Lgb

Re: [patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
On Wednesday 12 October 2005 09:01, Georg Baum wrote: > I did not know that an empty \layout is valid, but both 1.3 and 1.4 can > read that, so I made lyx2lyx understand it, too. It think that this function should be generalized and sent to parser tools. We do it in several places and this woul

Re: Two usability problems in 1.4.0pre2

2005-10-12 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Helge> I think sliders are a good idea - it can be done better than Helge> the current dialog though. Vertical sliders, with the names of Helge> the sectioning hierarchy to the left of the slider would be Helge> easier to understand. The s

[patch] fix bug 2088

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
I did not know that an empty \layout is valid, but both 1.3 and 1.4 can read that, so I made lyx2lyx understand it, too. OK to commit? GeorgIndex: lib/lyx2lyx/ChangeLog === RCS file: /usr/local/lyx/cvsroot/lyx-devel/lib/lyx2lyx/Chan

Bug 2091: Wrong typography when mixing single & double quotes (1.4cvs)

2005-10-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Discovered by Jim Osborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> who seems to understand better than me what kind of latex ought to be generated. Some quoting styles have problems with this sentence: "The word is 'foo'", he said. Everything is fine on screen, but the ' followed by " (with no space inbetween) goes

Bug 2090: Failure to handle old 1.3 documents with single-quoting style

2005-10-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Create a document with lyx 1.3 Set the quoting style to single quotes instead of the usual doubles. Open this document in lyx-1.4 Notice how it is impossible to turn single-quoting off again, as lyx-1.4 don't have this in the GUI anymore. The problem persists as the file is saved by lyx-1.4

Re: Back to basics.

2005-10-12 Thread Jose' Matos
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 01:36, Luis Rivera wrote: > > It DOES run on cygwin! > > Cute to see lil' LyX, like seeing baby pictures in an album! > > I wonder how did it grow so big! ;-) > > Anyway, good experiment for after lunch... :-) Notice that there is a bug there. For some reason the ve

Re: [patch] fix bug 2059 (cut and paste in mathed)

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Daniel Watkins wrote: > This one works for me, in conjunction with the undo patch. Fine. Did anybody else test it? Can the two patches go in? Georg

Re: LyX 1.4 on Windows (MinGW)

2005-10-12 Thread Georg Baum
Martin Vermeer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 00:42 +0200, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) >> writes: >> >> | To be quite honest I belive we should revert messages.C to the simple >> | state it was in before this summers meeting. >> >> But this is me being g