FW: zram-config

2013-11-07 Thread p s
196MSwap: 1.0G 1.0G 0B End managed even to get this :) $ free -hbash: fork: Cannot allocate memory But I could not reproduce it. > Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:40:29 +0100 > From: leszek.les...@web.de > To: lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: zram-co

Re: zram-config

2013-11-07 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 07.11.2013 17:28, schrieb sd: > Hi, > > Some details about zram-config: > > [ppp] 1. I have somehow the impression the system is not fully aware > about the memory assigned to zram. > [leszek] To 1. You are wrong. Its a normal swap and all apps which are > aware of swap

zram-config repost

2013-11-07 Thread sd
repost - sorry posted this in wrong thread before On 07/11/13 17:28, sd wrote: Hi, Some details about zram-config: [ppp] 1. I have somehow the impression the system is not fully aware about the memory assigned to zram. [leszek] To 1. You are wrong. Its a normal swap and all apps

zram-config

2013-11-07 Thread sd
report - sorry posted this in wrong thread before :) On 07/11/13 17:28, sd wrote: Hi, Some details about zram-config: [ppp] 1. I have somehow the impression the system is not fully aware about the memory assigned to zram. [leszek] To 1. You are wrong. Its a normal swap and all apps which

zram-config

2013-11-07 Thread sd
Hi, Some details about zram-config: [ppp] 1. I have somehow the impression the system is not fully aware about the memory assigned to zram. [leszek] To 1. You are wrong. Its a normal swap and all apps which are aware of swap are aware of zrams swap. @leszek - you are right, but that is not

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ZRAM, vm.swappiness and the future

2013-10-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-10-26 20:37, Leszek Lesner wrote: > As some of you know there were some discussions on this mailinglist > regarding zram and vm.swappiness. > In this mail I want to write down all I know and learned about zram, > vm.swappiness and its cooperation. > This is intend as a help

AW: [Lubuntu-qa] ZRAM, vm.swappiness and the future

2013-10-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
About the size of zram. Lubuntu and the zram-config package in ubuntu uses half of the physical memory. At least this is a more sane setting then setting it to use all available RAM. And of course you are right swappiness=0 does not mean it waits until ram is full to swap out. Swappiness is only a

ZRAM, vm.swappiness and the future

2013-10-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
As some of you know there were some discussions on this mailinglist regarding zram and vm.swappiness. In this mail I want to write down all I know and learned about zram, vm.swappiness and its cooperation. This is intend as a help and a starting point for discussions for the next release of

Zram errors

2013-10-04 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, the major bug under https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1227202 has been sorted, but it also threw up another issue which I've been asked to report as a separate bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1235525 Can others confirm this bug please so that the k

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
ote: > > It is already fixed for/in saucy > >*Von: *John Hupp > *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2013 21:00 > *An: *Phill Whiteside > *Cc: *Leszek Lesner; lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > *Betreff: *Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring? > > Does that also mean that zram

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread John Hupp
Good to hear, thanks! On 10/3/2013 3:04 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: It is already fixed for/in saucy *Von: *John Hupp *Gesendet: *Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2013 21:00 *An: *Phill Whiteside *Cc: *Leszek Lesner; lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com *Betreff: *Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring? Does that also

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
*Cc: *Leszek Lesner; lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com > *Betreff: *Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring? > > Does that also mean that zram will not be fixed in time for the Saucy > release? > > On 10/3/2013 1:38 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > > I strongly suspect that the the 'sud

AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread Leszek Lesner
WhitesideCc: Leszek Lesner; lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.comBetreff: Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring? Does that also mean that zram will not be fixed in time for the Saucy release? On 10/3/2013 1:38 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I strongly suspect that

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread John Hupp
Does that also mean that zram will not be fixed in time for the Saucy release? On 10/3/2013 1:38 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I strongly suspect that the the 'sudo parted -l' output of 'Error: /dev/zram1: unrecognised disk label', has been around for quite some time. I thi

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-03 Thread Phill Whiteside
I strongly suspect that the the 'sudo parted -l' output of 'Error: /dev/zram1: unrecognised disk label', has been around for quite some time. I think it was found when people went digging into the issue with zram freezing. The good news is that that particular error is not

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-10-02 Thread John Hupp
On 9/29/2013 4:17 AM, Leszek Lesner wrote: It can be disabled just like any other upstart service. Here is a short documentation link: ‎http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting So renaming /etc/init/zram-config.conf to /etc/init/zram-config.donotstart

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Thank you Leszek :-) On 2013-09-29 10:17, Leszek Lesner wrote: > It can be disabled just like any other upstart service. > Here is a short documentation link: > ‎http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting > > So renaming /etc/init/zram-config

AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-29 Thread Leszek Lesner
It can be disabled just like any other upstart service. Here is a short documentation link: ‎http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-startingSo renaming /etc/init/zram-config.conf to /etc/init/zram-config.donotstart should work here

Re: AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-29 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Leszek, John has zRAM in Raring. It was pulled in by a package he installed, and I try to help him switch it off. Probably it is better to do it in /etc/init.d, but I am not familiar with that method, so I didn't suggest that method. Please describe it, I'm reading and learning

AW: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-29 Thread Leszek Lesner
Honestlky I don't get the cronjob. Why is it necessary? On reboot the init system runs the stop command on zram-config in /etc/init.d which dies exactly the same as the cronjob

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-29 02:23, John Hupp wrote: > On 9/28/2013 12:23 PM, sudodus wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> Yes, let us hope the bug will be fixed soon, and it will be >> back-ported :-) >> >> Can you run your application without zRAM? You can switch it off in

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi John, the only way to see if But sudo parted -l still reports: Error: /dev/zram1: unrecognised disk label is by using earlier releases. As I have stated in a different post, skeletons come out. The parted -l never affected lubuntu in use, our use of zram never affected lubuntu until

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread John Hupp
On 9/28/2013 12:23 PM, sudodus wrote: Hi John, Yes, let us hope the bug will be fixed soon, and it will be back-ported :-) Can you run your application without zRAM? You can switch it off in a simple way (and have it ready for reactivation) like this with crontab. Edit the crontab with sudo

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Leszek, at this point in 13.10 I'm already thinking ahead to 14.04 :) Asking Julien to investigate the merits as we will be using the 3.12 kernel in 14.04 makes sense to me :) I've run the 3.12rc2 for a week on my system, before reverting to the current 'test' 3.11 kernel

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 28.09.2013 18:27, schrieb Phill Whiteside: > Hi John, > > just to add to the fun, unit193 found this > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1215379 So, I don't > know if we should be using zram or zswap now! It needs looking into by > someone wi

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Nio Wiklund
+1 :-D On 2013-09-28 18:27, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi John, > > just to add to the fun, unit193 found > this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1215379 > So, I don't know if we should be using zram or zswap now! It needs > looking into by someone wi

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi John, just to add to the fun, unit193 found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1215379 So, I don't know if we should be using zram or zswap now! It needs looking into by someone with more skilled than me (shouldn't be too hard to find one of those!). Jo

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread sudodus
Hi John, Yes, let us hope the bug will be fixed soon, and it will be back-ported :-) Can you run your application without zRAM? You can switch it off in a simple way (and have it ready for reactivation) like this with crontab. Edit the crontab with sudo crontab -e $ sudo crontab -l |tail -n3

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-28 Thread John Hupp
Hi, Nio. That is what puzzled me about Phill's statement that before Saucy, zram "was there just not used." Your confirmation that it is not used in your up-to-date Raring install sent me looking for a package that depends on zram-config. I did a Dependencies search in Syn

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-27 Thread Nio Wiklund
> Syslog also indicates that half of memory was given to zram to form its > block device. > > Does this mean that half of memory is dedicated to something that isn't > working? And perhaps that machines will hang when swap is needed? > > I arrive at this line of questi

Re: zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-27 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi John As for freezing we discovered that since kernel 3.10.6 zram is broken If you are seeing issues on kernels before that, then it is a separate bug. As for the report back from 'sudo parted -l' it is still there in the new 3.11.0-9 kernel. This is a separate bug as to the '

zRAM broken on Raring?

2013-09-27 Thread John Hupp
On Raring, output from 'sudo parted -l' includes: Error: /dev/zram0: unrecognised disk label And syslog shows a slew of errors: Lubuntu kernel: Buffer I/O error on device zram0, logical block 128247 Syslog also indicates that half of memory was given to zram to form its bl

Re: OBI version of Lubuntu beta 2 with zRAM off

2013-09-27 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-27 19:20, Nio Wiklund wrote: > Hi everybody, > > There is a tarball of Lubuntu beta 2 i386 with zRAM off for the One > Button Installer. I have made it in KVM and tested it in my IBM Thinkpad > T42 with Pentium M without a PAE flag. > > crontab is used to switch

OBI version of Lubuntu beta 2 with zRAM off

2013-09-27 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody, There is a tarball of Lubuntu beta 2 i386 with zRAM off for the One Button Installer. I have made it in KVM and tested it in my IBM Thinkpad T42 with Pentium M without a PAE flag. crontab is used to switch zRAM off. I will soon upload it to http://phillw.net/isos/one-button

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
ed few Qs and thought that would not only help me, nor whatever community I share the idea with, but everyone else including Lubuntu Users. I might be wrong to hope for too much but I made it clear since the first email. So, sorry for any confusion. > I thought you tested out zram Yes,

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Ali, please see inline quotes. On Jul 18, 2013 9:25 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: >> >> Hello Ali (et. al), > > Hi > >> >> I think you need to understand something. >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread leszek . lesner
I don't get your Problem Ali. I thought you tested out zram and I explained how it technicaly worked. If the unamed Community you are working together with still does not see the benefit then they maybe don't know what you are talking about and simply don't understand the techn

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
each distro to > choose their default browser :) I hope that puts your mind at rest, > Hi Phill, YES! That is the high quality of a reply that I expect. And I'm not surprised, you are the wise Phill after all. Thanks Sensei. Much appreciated. Indeed, the HUGE successful of Lubuntu wit

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Ali, as your motto staes, all of us are smarter than one. If any team from any linux distro finds Z-RAM to be useful - it is for them to test and then add it if it proves useful. Just the same as it is for, say, each distro to choose their default browser :) I hope that puts your mind at rest,

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > z-RAM is a part of lubuntu desktop, it has been found to be useful and > will continue to be a part of lubuntu until such time as its usefulness is > gone (i.e. goes unsupported / has a major bug). > Hi Phill, As you are the wis

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
decide :) Regards, Phill. On 18 July 2013 20:56, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Ali (et. al), > > I think you need to understand something. > > 1. You shouldn't base zRAM results on Lubuntu. You should base results on > the flavour that the community mentioned has created. &

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Ho Wan Chan wrote: > Hello Ali (et. al), > Hi > I think you need to understand something. > > 1. You shouldn't base zRAM results on Lubuntu. You should base results on > the flavour that the community mentioned has created. > > 2

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-18 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Ali (et. al), I think you need to understand something. 1. You shouldn't base zRAM results on Lubuntu. You should base results on the flavour that the community mentioned has created. 2. The community you mentioned is rather conservative. They don't like to add things withou

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-17 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-07-17 15:51, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Nio Wiklund <mailto:nio.wikl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 2013-07-17 15:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > Dear Members of Lubuntu Community, > > > > A

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > On 2013-07-17 15:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > Dear Members of Lubuntu Community, > > > > As all of you know, zram-config has been added by default to Saucy Build > > for Lubuntu - special thank to Leszek Les

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-17 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-07-17 15:21, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Dear Members of Lubuntu Community, > > As all of you know, zram-config has been added by default to Saucy Build > for Lubuntu - special thank to Leszek Lesner, the one who suggested to > add it by default [1] - and some of the com

[Feedback Needed] zram-config

2013-07-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Dear Members of Lubuntu Community, As all of you know, zram-config has been added by default to Saucy Build for Lubuntu - special thank to Leszek Lesner, the one who suggested to add it by default [1] - and some of the community did many tests and shared the results and I was one of those [2

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM

2013-06-30 Thread Jörn Schönyan
Am 03.06.2013 20:15, schrieb Ali Linx (amjjawad): Hi, I have seen some emails talking about zRAM. I still have no time to go through these emails and yes, I'm referring to the endless threads about Firefox vs Chromium (I lost counting, how many threads so far?) and I've no

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-22 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-22 15:37, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Hi, > > I have put all my reports on one list/post so there you go: > http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/06/zram-testing-reports.html > <http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/06/zram-testing-reports.html> > > > I

My zRAM Testing Reports - FULL List

2013-06-22 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, I have put all my reports on one list/post so there you go: http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2013/06/zram-testing-reports.html<http://amjjawad.blogspot.ae/2013/06/zram-testing-reports.html> I still didn't have the time to update: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/LowRamTes

Re: Minimal Install (really netboot install) documentation (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-20 Thread Karl Anliot
My mother (bless her heart) always told me not to pick at scabs. This installer thing is like a scab because I can't stop pick pick picking. :) BTW, has anyone updated the wiki to say that you can't use the 32-bit ISO's on secure boot pc's? :( -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.

Re: Minimal Install (really netboot install) documentation (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Jonathan, I was trying to cut down the clutter of emails. I've copied Nio's work over to the JasonODoom area[1] so it can be worked on in peace. The one further task, now that lubuntu is available in tasksel as both desktop and core, is if there is any benefit to be sought by using the --norecc

Minimal Install (really netboot install) documentation (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Phill and Nio, Nio wrote: >> 3. But I don't understand ... >> 3.2 The talk about CLI. >> I used the default method, which is a text based wizard type >> interface, similar to that of the alternate iso. Why not choose that >> one? (A couple of weeks ago, the same actions did not work with the >

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
> > about is if we can include stuff for item 2 into the program code, as > > the example to 'add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox right-click > > menu'. But I start to understand that there might low priority for > such > > luxury because the

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-20 Thread Nio Wiklund
users and for people with bad CD/DVD drives). > > And I noticed that the network installation by the mini iso is not > portable like the one by the desktop iso. > > -o- > > A. If we plan to write '(3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso > ..

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
SB now (which is good for netbook > users and for people with bad CD/DVD drives). > > And I noticed that the network installation by the mini iso is not > portable like the one by the desktop iso. > > -o- > > A. If we plan to write '(3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso &g

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-20 Thread Nio Wiklund
I noticed that the network installation by the mini iso is not portable like the one by the desktop iso. -o- A. If we plan to write '(3) 128MB to 256MB: Use the netboot mini.iso ...' in the official document, someone must volunteer to test the RAM limits with the mini.iso for Lubuntu Saucy.

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-20 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> - Would it be possible to add the Ubiquity command to the Openbox >>> right-click menu? ... >> If you are techie enough to play around like that, you are probably >> techie enough to remember a command :) > I was thinking, that people c

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-19 Thread Nio Wiklund
built into the system, the less must be described in the tutorial or wiki page. ... because this way it is possible to edit or wipe partitions and 'swapon' before ubiquity is started, which helps when there is very low RAM. >> - But zRAM in the alternate installer is probably a better a

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-19 Thread Jonathan Marsden
make it much easier to get the lighter > environment afterwards, if the first attempt fails. This makes it > possible to wipe the partitions before Ubiquity is started without > having to reboot twice. (But it is definitely not 'mainstream'.) If you are techie enough to p

Re: RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-19 Thread Nio Wiklund
-o- > > Anyway, I have a short report from testing the desktop iso, that I > zsynced June 16 at 17.30 Central European time. It has zRAM, I tested it > in a computer bought in January 2004, a Dell Dimension 4600. I used the > mem boot option to make it use various amounts of RAM. > &

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Jackson Doak
i'll try and get a few working. If anyone wants stuff all they would have to pay is shipping. I volunteer at cbne.org.au and we get hundreds of PCs a month, so if anyone has a specific piece of old hardware that needs testing i should be able to find it. On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Ali Linx

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Jackson Doak wrote: If you need testing on something below 128mb, let me know, i have access to > a warehouse of ancient PCs > > > Hi Jackson, I have changed my mind :D I'm very curious and interested to read your report - please, make sure the report is as detai

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install?

2013-06-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Jackson, I suggest that you test the desktop installer in one of your old machines at 256 MB RAM with and without swap to disk (prepared before the installer is started). It is valuable to have several test results to find good and bad properties of zRAM, and to have more data for the new

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install?

2013-06-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.saucy > <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.saucy> > >> > >> desktop = lubuntu-desktop meta package > >> > >> core = lubuntu-core meta

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Jackson Doak
t even use a browser. The > system will be not usable, even with zRAM, I don't expect much. > > However, if you guys are interested, we can do that but ... let's NOT make > it a priority :) > > > > -- > > "All of us are smarter than any one of us.&quo

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
hat, IMHO. I have installed it on P2 with 64MB RAM using the Mini ISO method. With 128MB RAM, you can't do anything. You can't even use a browser. The system will be not usable, even with zRAM, I don't expect much. However, if you guys are interested, we can do that but ... l

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Jackson Doak
arn more about what 13.10 is capable of. >> >> Regards, >> >> Phill >> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements >> >> On 19 June 2013 00:22, Jonathan Marsden wrote: >> >>> Julien, >>> >>> What would it take to g

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
RAM 'over the edge'. Please see [1] which > is being updated as we learn more about what 13.10 is capable of. > > Regards, > > Phill > 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_Requirements > > On 19 June 2013 00:22, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > >> Julien,

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
, but if you want to > > know the content of the seed at any time, this is the place : > > https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.saucy > > > > desktop = lubuntu-desktop meta package > > > > core = lubuntu-core meta package > > > &

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
swer, but if you want to > > know the content of the seed at any time, this is the place : > > https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.saucy > > > > desktop = lubuntu-desktop meta package > > > > core = lubuntu-core meta package > > > &

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM for the Alternate Install?

2013-06-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
t; >> > >> core = lubuntu-core meta package > >> > >> Based on the changelog, you will see that zRam was added, and not > >> removed. > > > > It seems to be fine. I think we need to move on from that issue :) > > > > What would it ta

Re: zRAM for the Alternate Install?

2013-06-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.saucy >> >> desktop = lubuntu-desktop meta package >> >> core = lubuntu-core meta package >> >> Based on the changelog, you will see that zRam was added, and not >> removed. > > It seems to

zRAM for the Alternate Install? (was: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM )

2013-06-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
t; desktop = lubuntu-desktop meta package > > core = lubuntu-core meta package > > Based on the changelog, you will see that zRam was added, and not > removed. It seems to be fine. I think we need to move on from that issue :) What would it take to get zRAM added so that it runs by defa

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
2013/6/18 Nio Wiklund : > > WHy is zRAM removed from the daily build? Is it a mistake, was the idea > to test zRAM only a few days, or did someone find something really bad > with it? I don't really know to what mail I should answer, but if you want to know the content of the

RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-18 Thread Nio Wiklund
16 at 17.30 Central European time. It has zRAM, I tested it in a computer bought in January 2004, a Dell Dimension 4600. I used the mem boot option to make it use various amounts of RAM. Summary: The RAM needed to install with the desktop installer was reduced to half compared to my previous test

RAM needed for desktop installer reduced to half by zRAM

2013-06-17 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi everybody, WHy is zRAM removed from the daily build? Is it a mistake, was the idea to test zRAM only a few days, or did someone find something really bad with it? -o- Anyway, I have a short report from testing the desktop iso, that I zsynced June 16 at 17.30 Central European time. It has

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM has been removed from Lubuntu 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
zram: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1192005 Browser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/1192010 On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:50 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > O_o > > Firefox does not exist as well: http://i40.tinypic.com/9

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM has been removed from Lubuntu 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
O_o Firefox does not exist as well: http://i40.tinypic.com/9th4p4.jpg On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Yorvyk wrote: >> Don’t know why it#s missing, but it may be worth repeating the tests you've >> done, if you have time, with tod

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] zRAM has been removed from Lubuntu 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Yorvyk wrote: > Don’t know why it#s missing, but it may be worth repeating the tests you've > done, if you have time, with today’s daily to see what difference it makes. > > Steve $ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20130617/saucy-desktop-i386.is

Re: zRAM has been removed from Lubuntu 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
my phase 2 of testing on a Real Hardware (yesterday, all my tests were > on VM). > > And ... I noticed a great slowness that made me wonder what is going > on? I looked deeper and after some invesitatgtion, I came to know that > there is NO "zram-config" by default any more.

zRAM has been removed from Lubuntu 13.10 daily build of 17-Jun

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
ced a great slowness that made me wonder what is going on? I looked deeper and after some invesitatgtion, I came to know that there is NO "zram-config" by default any more. I have downloaded: saucy-desktop-i386.iso - 17-Jun-2013 17:33 687M Desktop image for PC (Intel x86) I'm not w

Re: zRAM & Live CD

2013-06-17 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-17 15:20, Yorvyk wrote: > Having carried out a few tests I think we can say zRAM does appear to > make a positive make a difference to the ability to use the Live CD, > although further testing may be required. What concerns me is that it > remains enabled on the install

Re: zRAM & Live CD

2013-06-17 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am 17.06.2013 15:20, schrieb Yorvyk: > Having carried out a few tests I think we can say zRAM does appear to > make a positive make a difference to the ability to use the Live CD, > although further testing may be required. What concerns me is that it > remains enabled on the install

Re: zRAM

2013-06-17 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, I'm replying yet again to this email because, I must say, our community seems 'still confused' about zRAM and things are getting lost in the translation - I know how hard it is, sometimes to explain in purely writing but let's hope we can all agree about what is zRAM? and

zRAM & Live CD

2013-06-17 Thread Yorvyk
Having carried out a few tests I think we can say zRAM does appear to make a positive make a difference to the ability to use the Live CD, although further testing may be required. What concerns me is that it remains enabled on the installed system. I thought we were just going to use it on

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
partition >> and a swap partition 1.5 x RAM size, as per the default partitioning, >> using gParted. Reboot, as swap isn't seen even using swapon -a. >> Installing from the live session and the direct install option crashes >> even though swap is being used. So, on this rat

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Yorvyk
though swap is being used. So, on this rather slow machine at least, it looks like the zRAM in Saucy is rather useful. Lowered the RAM to 128 MiB and the Suacy Live CD still boots and is usable if somewhat slooow. Can't install with it though. It fills the swap space up rather quickly. --

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Nio Wiklund
per the default partitioning, > using gParted. Reboot, as swap isn't seen even using swapon -a. > Installing from the live session and the direct install option crashes > even though swap is being used. So, on this rather slow machine at > least, it looks like the zRAM in Saucy i

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Yorvyk
is rather slow machine at least, it looks like the zRAM in Saucy is rather useful. -- Steve -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Yorvyk
appears to. Compaq Deskpro EP K450 from last century. Intel 440BX chip set 450 MHz Pentium III 256 MiB PC100 RAM 6.4 GB HDD (from Oct 1998) MGA G200 AGP graphics The HDD had a single FAT 32 partition on it. I booted from USB using PLOP and selected Try Lubuntu and then ran top. zRAM used 128 M

Re: zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Nio Wiklund
Compaq Deskpro EP K450 from last century. > > Intel 440BX chip set > 450 MHz Pentium III > 256 MiB PC100 RAM > 6.4 GB HDD (from Oct 1998) > MGA G200 AGP graphics > > The HDD had a single FAT 32 partition on it. I booted from USB using > PLOP and selected Try Lubuntu and

zRAM and Live CD

2013-06-16 Thread Yorvyk
et 450 MHz Pentium III 256 MiB PC100 RAM 6.4 GB HDD (from Oct 1998) MGA G200 AGP graphics The HDD had a single FAT 32 partition on it. I booted from USB using PLOP and selected Try Lubuntu and then ran top. zRAM used 128 MiB RAM and already swap was in use, only 4 MiB. I then launched the installer

Re: Re: zRAM

2013-06-12 Thread Andre Rodovalho
+1 to test zRAM on alpha 2013/6/9 Leszek Lesner > >It helped me at the beginning but >then, it did not. I was using > >Chromium during that test, if I >remember correctly and I guess I >still > have the report and screenshot. > >http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/20

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-10 Thread Nio Wiklund
art with a computer without linux, there will be no swap, and if the RAM is below 1 GB (or maybe below 768MB), you should start editing the partitions with for example gparted, and at least create swap. I think it is too late at the partitioning page of the installer (if the you reach that pag

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-10 Thread Tracer
> - Original Message - > From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) > I have failed to produce that issue no matter how many times I have tired. > > I even tried below 256MB of RAM but that did not crash the installation at > all. YES, the installation process was SO SLOW but never crashed, in all my > te

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-09 Thread Aere Greenway
On 06/09/2013 02:00 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: On 2013-06-09 21:41, Aere Greenway wrote: On 06/08/2013 09:03 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: What about the alternate installer, is that easy enough to run (it's text, but in a very guided way)? Nio: The alternate installer works fine, but I first need to tr

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-09 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-06-09 21:41, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 06/08/2013 09:03 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> What about the alternate installer, is that easy enough to run (it's >> text, but in a very guided way)? > Nio: > > The alternate installer works fine, but I first need to try out the live > CD to see if it s

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-09 Thread Phill Whiteside
The 1st link of 'here' at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO has been removed, it pointed to 11.04 alternate of ubuntu and is End of Life. (Only lubuntu desk top now support alternate). If the flow of links from ubuntu.net to the alternate installer needs improving, please sug

Re: RAM Usage During Installation of Lubuntu (was: zRAM)

2013-06-09 Thread Aere Greenway
On 06/08/2013 09:03 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: What about the alternate installer, is that easy enough to run (it's text, but in a very guided way)? Nio: The alternate installer works fine, but I first need to try out the live CD to see if it supports my particular machine, and the applications I

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