Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread John Hupp
On 12/8/2012 5:15 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 12/08/2012 01:17 PM, John Hupp wrote: Can I force usage of a certain driver? I read that this was supported with xorg.conf, but that does not exist by default now, and I think Xorg uses an automated configuration system called KMS, about which I

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/08/2012 01:17 PM, John Hupp wrote: > Can I force usage of a certain driver? I read that this was > supported with xorg.conf, but that does not exist by default now, and > I think Xorg uses an automated configuration system called KMS, about > which I know next to nothing. But perhaps a con

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi folks, well, it does seem we have a small core of people wanting to use LTSP with lubuntu. If I could make a couple of suggestions? We have a group that are advocates of PPC (the older Macs), for chasing problems they use the lubuntu-quality area[1, 2] and that mailing list for discussions. Yo

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread Ioannis Vranos
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:17 PM, John Hupp wrote: > It was a slow-dawning realization for me as I continued to research this, > but I too was concluding that I needed various xserver-xorg-video-* > packages. However, checking just now, I find that I already have the > meta-package installed (xser

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread John Hupp
It was a slow-dawning realization for me as I continued to research this, but I too was concluding that I needed various xserver-xorg-video-* packages. However, checking just now, I find that I already have the meta-package installed (xserver-xorg-video-all) that installs their whole suite.

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread Ioannis Vranos
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John Hupp wrote: > > Thanks for having a look at this. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto > I didn't detail this fact in this thread, but for the cards that stall at a > blank, black screen during a normal boot, I can configure LTSP to just boot

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-08 Thread John Hupp
Thanks for having a look at this. 1. On this machine, /etc/X11/xorg.conf does not exist. 2. I installed linux-firmware-nonfree and re-tested all the non-working cards with no change in results. 3. Since I'm testing a variety of hardware, I didn't have much idea about what to uninstall. But

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-07 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Try each of the following: 1. Erase /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and reboot. If the above does not work, 2. Install linux-firmware-nonfree package, and reboot. If the above does not work, 3. Uninstall all the video driver packages you do not need, leave only the one(s) that you need, and reboot. On

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-07 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Try each of the following: 1. Erase /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and reboot. If the above does not work, 2. Install linux-firmware-nonfree package, and reboot. If the above does not work, 3. Uninstall all the video driver packages you do not need, leave only the one(s) that you need, and reboot.

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-07 Thread John Hupp
An expanded list of what works and doesn't work for me (not double-tested, and where not specified I'm listing chips rather than card mfr/model): Worked: - PCI Matrox Millennium II MGA 2164W (PCI card) - Intel 82810E (integrated) - An ATI-based AGP card sold as a MIC E-G012-02-1214(B) - ATI Rag

Re: [Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-07 Thread John Hupp
To give my supposition a bit more weight, I removed the discrete video card from a working Lubuntu 12.10 machine and installed it in the machine that fails both as a client and a standalone-with-Live-CD. It then successfully booted the Live CD. The card that worked was an old PCI Matrox Mille

[Lubuntu] Some PC's or LTSP clients stall during boot at a blank, black screen

2012-12-07 Thread John Hupp
Read on about Lubuntu 12.10 after this intro: I have been troubleshooting a behavior in which many LTSP clients on my Lubuntu 12.10 LTSP server fail to boot. They stall after the Lubuntu splash screen at a blank, black screen. But one of the PC's that fails to boot as an LTSP client also * has