[Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, I always prefer to think and plan ahead and I'm sure you all agree this is a good idea. "Better safe than sorry" :) Having that said, I'm sure you all know that we are in 2013 and Linux Kernel starting from series 3.xx and later, started to drop the support for some hardware. Day after day, t

[Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - Latest Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/lubuntu-1310-changes-firefox-zram-added.html I'm *not *going to share the above link on our official channels *until *I receive an email from our Devs to confirm that :) Thanks! -- "All of us are smarter than any one of us." *Best Regards,* *amjjawad

[Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Hi, I'm sure we had this discussion some time before. However, IMHO, this might be a good time to re-discuss this, if I may of course and so sorry if this is a repeated issue. Long story short, can we drop LightDM in favor of another lighter Manager? don't have a screenshot right now but some fri

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: [snip] > Long story short, can we drop LightDM in favor of another lighter Manager? [snip] Which other display manager(s) did you have in mind? LightDM is also used in Ubuntu, and the others, which helps a lot with maintenance. There are a lot of

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
The kernel on the release iso will never change (nor will ANYTHING else). Release ISO's are specifically frozen in time, for all time. This is why on LTS when a new iso is created it has a .1, .2, .3 and .4 suffix. Regards, Phill. On 13 June 2013 13:20, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > Hi, > > I a

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > [snip] > > Long story short, can we drop LightDM in favor of another lighter > Manager? > [snip] > > Which other display manager(s) did you have in mind? Hello Lars and thanks for replying :)

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > The kernel on the release iso will never change (nor will ANYTHING else). > Release ISO's are specifically frozen in time, for all time. This is why on > LTS when a new iso is created it has a .1, .2, .3 and .4 suffix. > > Regards, > > Phi

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Jörn Schönyan
A possible replacement would be LXDM, afaik it's the only one display manager which is lighter than LightDM. But: it's heavily buggy. Look at the screenshot in the german Ubuntu forums: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/probleme-nach-der-installation-von-lxdm/ So I don't think there can be muc

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: [snip] > I'm sure someone told me replacing LightDM will save around 20MB for Lubuntu [snip] It would help if you could recall which one. In the past *buntu has used (IIRC) GDM, KDM, XDM and LXDM. That doesn't leave too many other choices. CDM c

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Jörn Schönyan
We don't have to care about 386 machines, I think. We DO care about machines without PAE-extension, that should be enough. Jörn Hi Phill, I'm afraid you did not understand my email correctly. This is not what I was expecting :) BACK to archive: "we keep Lubuntu 10.04 because the drop of

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
All the isos (even long Expired ones) are archived up [1]. Ubuntu does not force someone using, say, 8.04 to upgrade. All that happens is they no longer get updates from ubuntu. If there is another swathe of CPU's that are dropped, we will mention that on the Wiki, just as we do for 10.04 Regards,

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Lars Nooden wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > [snip] > > I'm sure someone told me replacing LightDM will save around 20MB for > Lubuntu > [snip] > > It would help if you could recall which one. In the past *buntu has used > (IIRC) GDM, KD

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Lars Noodén
On 6/13/13 4:11 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > I trusted that person finding and I seriously can't remember? we have so > many channels and I'm totally lost between all these. Facebook, Google+, > IRC, Mailing List, Forums, etc so I seriously can't remember. Mail and mailing lists are searchable

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Joern
We could go back to LXDM, but at least in 12.04 it had heavy bugs. That would save some megabytes (if it works again). Lubuntu would even work without a display manager, but it would boot to a terminal and the user would have to start X on his own. Not very cool, I think. Jörn Am 13.06.2013

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Linux Kernel and the Future of Lubuntu

2013-06-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/06/13 13:20, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Hi, I always prefer to think and plan ahead and I'm sure you all agree this is a good idea. "Better safe than sorry" :) Having that said, I'm sure you all know that we are in 2013 and Linux Kernel starting from series 3.xx and later, started to dro

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Saucy] - LigthDM

2013-06-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/06/13 13:32, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Hi, I'm sure we had this discussion some time before. However, IMHO, this might be a good time to re-discuss this, if I may of course and so sorry if this is a repeated issue. Long story short, can we drop LightDM in favor of another lighter Manager

[Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, the changes to the browser, including Zram application, removal of xscreensaver etc. have all now landed in today's daily builds... Grab them while they're still warm :) Regards, Phill. P.S. the Alpha 1 release has been pushed back a week, there will also now only be two Alpha's (like in Rar

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Jackson Doak
what happened to xscreensaver? i missed that On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > the changes to the browser, including Zram application, removal of > xscreensaver etc. have all now landed in today's daily builds... Grab them > while they're still warm :) > > Regard

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Jackson Doak wrote: > what happened to xscreensaver? i missed that > > >> > We were keeping it for the Lock Screen. Now, we don't have to. Menu > Log out > Lock Screen -- "All of us are smarter than any one of us." *Best Regards,* *amjjawad

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Jackson Doak
ok On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Jackson Doak wrote: > >> what happened to xscreensaver? i missed that >> >> >>> >> > We were keeping it for the Lock Screen. Now, we don't have to. > > Menu > Log out > Lock Screen > > > > > --

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Jackson Doak wrote: > ok > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) > wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Jackson Doak wrote: >> >>> what happened to xscreensaver? i missed that >>> >>> >>> >> We were keeping it for the Lock Scr

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Shutdown does not seem to work at present. there is a bug raised and Julien has been made aware of it. Regards, Phill. On 13 June 2013 20:51, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Jackson Doak wrote: > >> ok >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Ali Linx (amjjaw

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Shutdown does not seem to work at present. there is a bug raised and > Julien has been made aware of it. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > I'd appreciate if you share the bug's link :) Thanks! -- "All of us are smarter than any one of us."

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1190170 it may be mis-filed, hence my asking Julien to manually look at it. Phill. On 13 June 2013 21:14, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > >> Shutdown does not seem to work at pres

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
And just for the record ... and this is a quick note as I'm just installing right now ... The "Browse the web" slide on the installation slide show ... MUST be updated :) Included software Chromium Supported software Flash Firefox Should be updated to: Included software Firefox Supported softw

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/06/13 23:18, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: And just for the record ... and this is a quick note as I'm just installing right now ... The "Browse the web" slide on the installation slide show ... MUST be updated :) Included software Chromium Supported software Flash Firefox Should be update

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Whilst the bug gets filed, @ Rafael, please be aware of the changes to lubuntu. Regards, Phill. On 13 June 2013 23:53, Yorvyk wrote: > On 13/06/13 23:18, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > >> And just for the record ... and this is a quick note as I'm just >> installing right now ... >> >> The "Bro

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1190785 It did not give me: ubiquity-slideshow-lubuntu as a listed package so it is "ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu” ... hope I did not make a mistake! On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Whilst the bug

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Changes

2013-06-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Ali, the head of artwork has spoken. That is the end of any worries. When he says he is aware of it & he and the team are onto it, that is the end of worrying. You have seen at first hand his and the team's work, relax :) Regards, Phill. On 14 June 2013 00:36, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: > >