Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-23 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/22/2014 11:59 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: >... > Next time, if you see this type of oversize during your testing, > please send me a mail as soon as possible, so I have time to fix it > properly. I thought this was monitored automatically. At the top of the test case list, there is a warning

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-22 Thread Walter Lapchynski
Mélodie said: > I have burned a 700MB CD with the oversized ISO using the -overburn option. I > booted the > CD with Virtualbox and even started the installer : it works. If someone can put this on a wiki page somewhere, I'd be happy to link to it in the release notes. ;) wxl -- Mailing list:

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-22 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Julien, as some of the ISO's do creep up to oversized, can we keep alternate CD sized and allow desk top to have language packs etc? I know it has been a struggle to keep the ISO's at CD size. Would this not take some of the burden off you? Regards, Phill. On 22 October 2014 21:59, Julien

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-22 Thread meets
Hi, I have burned a 700MB CD with the oversized ISO using the -overburn option. I booted the CD with Virtualbox and even started the installer : it works. The command line used: $ wodim -v -overburn utopic-desktop-i386.iso (-v is for verbose.) I don't know if xfburn which is the default in Lu

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-22 Thread Julien Lavergne
Unfortunately, no :-( My fix needed an upload + a respin, which I didn't plan. We have to stick with this size for i386. Next time, if you see this type of oversize during your testing, please send me a mail as soon as possible, so I have time to fix it properly. Regards, Julien Lavergne 2014-10

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-21 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi Mélodie, There is already a new i386 iso file at the qa-tracker. It is flagged 'oversized'. (I have tested all but the 'Install alongside' test-case, and it passed my tests.) Julien, will there be another i386 iso file, or is this the final one? Best regards Nio Den 2014-10-21 13:44, me...@g

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-21 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/21/2014 02:44 PM, me...@gmx.fr wrote: > Hello, > > It looks to me some of us might be waiting for a new i386 version ready to > test. I read > only a PPC release will be missing as there isn't any tester for it, apart > from that I > can alsmost see the ones who are in the starting blocks

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-21 Thread meets
Hello, It looks to me some of us might be waiting for a new i386 version ready to test. I read only a PPC release will be missing as there isn't any tester for it, apart from that I can alsmost see the ones who are in the starting blocks to get a new smaller ISO and fill some of the testcases.

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread
ppc didn't really have enough momentum until the end of the cycle anyways. my concern is that core isn't really supporting radeon chips, which is kind of a big issue. i mean that's have of the machines out there. to be honest, i'm not sure we're going to do much for ppc in the future anyways. i hav

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Julien, with such short time scale left, I've had a chat with Walter (PPC guy and release manager). We're minded to drop PPC from 14.10 and concentrate our limited resources on the 14.04 LTS. I'm pretty sure you will be in agreement, the question is will LXQt support the PPC machines, or do we

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: > Sorry to be rude, but the question is more short term : Do we have the > time to test another i386, 3 days before the release ? > - If yes, we should respin now, and start the test (because a respin > will make the ISO CD size, I done the

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Julien Lavergne
Sorry to be rude, but the question is more short term : Do we have the time to test another i386, 3 days before the release ? - If yes, we should respin now, and start the test (because a respin will make the ISO CD size, I done the necessary cut). - If no, so we have to live with a non CD size ISO

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread
some perspective: there's nothing that's not oversized anymore. cds are kind of old hat. that being said, lubuntu is often targeted at machines that are old hat ;) those machines often have the biggest problems with drivers. having a live version can be essential for those sort of situations. wit

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Artemgy
> on Mon, 20 Oct 2014 Phill Whiteside <[1]phi...@phillw.net> wrote > > I propose the following... > > Desktop ISO can go DVD size > Alternate ISO remains CD size. I second Phill's proposal ... * Desktop: Machines that fit the Live Desktop use-case are likely to have bootable peripherals that ex

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread meets
Hi, Having to use DVD or buy special 800MB CD-R's is also a pain, when the machines targeted can neither boot to USB nor be booted with the help of Plop boot manager. (Which sometimes happens, or it would boot but then behave in a way which makes it not usable). Besides that I notice here: http

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Jörn
I second that. Being restricted to CD size is a large burden, DVD drives/USB boot capability are both common nowadays. If there are many complaints, we could make a community respin with only lubuntu-core, but that is another story. Best regards! Am 20. Oktober 2014 16:15:29 MESZ, schrieb Ph

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Aere Greenway
On 10/19/2014 11:03 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Dear Lubuntu testers, release manager and everybody else with an opinion, * If you think it is important with a desktop ISO file within CD size, please tell us here and now! * If you think it is enough with a Lubuntu alternate iso within CD size, you n

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, let me throw the Holy hand-grenade in :P A little history first... When the flavours were asked if they wanted to continue alternate installer, they all said NO. I was told that alternate installer would be dropped... And, of course, me being me I asked how they were going to install ser

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-20 Thread Lars Noodén
On 10/20/2014 08:03 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > * If you think it is important with a desktop ISO file within CD size, > please tell us here and now! I would agree that it is important for PPC. Many of the really old machines cannot burn DVDs. About thinning down the image, guvcview has never worke

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-19 Thread Nio Wiklund
Dear Lubuntu testers, release manager and everybody else with an opinion, * If you think it is important with a desktop ISO file within CD size, please tell us here and now! * If you think it is enough with a Lubuntu alternate iso within CD size, you need not do anything, because this is how it i

Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu oversize

2014-10-19 Thread Julien Lavergne
I pushed a fix, the ISO need to be respin, please check with the testers and the release manager. I can push the button if necessary. Regards, Julien Lavergne 2014-10-19 19:06 GMT+02:00 Nio Wiklund : > Hi again, > > What about the oversized iso file (too big for CD)? > > http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/